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  • JonstarkJonstark Posts: 2,738
    edited December 1969

    Ukyuu said:
    I have no problem with Netflix, but I am using Chrome 64 bits, so it might be why.

    @Kyoto Kid:

    Well, many people tells me they have no issues with 8.5. God know why it just hate my guts and not others' ones. I've tried every damn solution I could find, but it has never worked. I feel like I've been spending $$ in the wind with this software, it's a big major let down for me, it's the first time that I was that angry against DAZ 3D, through I know they're not telling Carrara to hate me, but well. I'm super-satisfied with all the rest through, as DAZ Studio : works and so does Hexagon.
    -

    I hope not to beat a dead horse on a painful subject for you, but it really sucks that this is happening for you and I've never heard of this before (for me it's perhaps the most stable app I run). This is probably extremely obvious but have you tried downloading and installing straight up and not using DIM? DIM always seems to put Carrara stuff in the wrong place anyway, since you mentioned it I immediately thought that might be the culprit.

    Of course it could be that Win10 won't work right with Carrara, but since it works for me fine in Win7 and 8.1, I'm assuming it's not that (I hope it's not that, anyway)

  • VhardamisVhardamis Posts: 576
    edited December 1969

    HeraldOfFire said:
    Good news. I'm looking at Windows 10 as a potential upgrade, I'm currently using Windows 7. The kindergarten look of Windows 8 was rather off-putting, amongst other nuisances like click-dragging to close windows and that horrible sidebar. At least Windows 10 looks functionally similar, and gives me the option to have a proper start menu without those silly Live tiles taking up half the screen.

    Any idea how well it works across dual or more monitors? I tend to use Daz Studio in a dual screen format myself.

    Every owner of WIN 7 -8.1 gets a free upgrade to WIN 10 up to a year after it goes live if that helps yo decide to take the plunge.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,010
    edited December 1969

    ...won't have the new workstation up by then (unless I hit the lotto) so no point in bothering the free offer as the only reason for me to change from Win7 Pro is for more memory support for the new rig (256 GB).

  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,364
    edited December 1969

    Kid, they may allow you to download the install and then you can burn that to a disk and write down the key they would issue you... you never know, that may be possible.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,010
    edited February 2015

    ...I'm looking at about two years to secure the support I need to build the base system (dual LGA 2011 socket MB with 16 DDR4 slots, single 2.6 GHz 8 core Xeon and 64 GB DDR4 [server grade] memory in quad channel mode, 1TB SSD, 2 x 2 TB HDDs, & Sapphire R9 290X GPU with 8 GB VRAM) to which I would eventually add the second CPU and increase the memory, first to 128 GB then to the full 256 GB in stages. I would need an OS capable of supporting the full 256 GB memory at the outset (Win7 Pro tops out at 192) so I don't have to upgrade the OS and deal with wiping and reinstalling everything again. Since I don't game, there is no need for overclocking anything.

    Most likely I will end up going with an OEM anyway as it is a home build, and considering the cost of the system itself, that would be a trivial expense. By then, it would come with at least SP1.

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  • Herald of FireHerald of Fire Posts: 3,505
    edited December 1969

    Vhardamis said:
    Every owner of WIN 7 -8.1 gets a free upgrade to WIN 10 up to a year after it goes live if that helps yo decide to take the plunge.
    True, but it only applies to digital versions. Again, being an old fashioned sort I prefer having a physical copy so that if everything goes belly up I can re-install the OS easily by booting off the disc.
  • SixDsSixDs Posts: 2,384
    edited December 1969

    It's rather speculative at this juncture, Herald, but every Windows download in recent memory has been in .iso format that can be used to create a bootable DVD for installation purposes. In short, you'll have your physical media as a result.

  • KeryaKerya Posts: 10,943
    edited December 1969

    Ukyuu: thank you!
    It is nice to hear that at least at the moment there are no problems between W10 and DS! :)

  • StratDragonStratDragon Posts: 3,278
    edited February 2015

    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/about

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  • TSasha SmithTSasha Smith Posts: 27,345
    edited December 1969

    StratDragon said:
    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/about

    I am wondering about the ones who are doing the technical preview of Windows 10

  • UkyuuUkyuu Posts: 182
    edited February 2015

    Kyoto Kid said:
    ...as I understand Win 10 desktop version still includes some of those ugly Win 8 elements. I'll continue keeping tabs on development and reading user reports on a couple technical journal sites before saying yea or nay. Still have 5 years for Win7 so in no hurry to potentially screw things up.

    Yes, but there's saying it's going to be a removable feature. At least the old type menu is back, and we can enjoy a reasonably good experience regarding that.

    HeraldOfFire said:
    This OneDrive thing sounds like it'll be a nuisance though. I don't use Cloud storage, nor do I particularly like the idea of Cloud storage. I'm an old fashioned sort that likes data somewhere local rather than sitting on someone else's hard drive. If I need to back things up, I have a lovely Blu-Ray writer capable of filing a BD-R with gigabytes of data.

    I'm hoping there's a way to kill it before it starts copying all of my precious files online.

    This is a removable windows feature, you can go to "remove program" => "Windows Feature" and simply remove it. It shows in my screenshots because one of my clients is asking me to test it.

    Kyoto Kid said:
    ...well from the SS provided, looks like the Start menu still has that nauseating looking tiled UI.

    I'd be totally happy with just a simple "XP" or "Win7 Basic" looking desktop and menus.


    ...and I totally agree on cloud storage. It should be an option if you want it not an automatic bug...er...feature forced on you. Hopefully that will be something that goes to the Windows App store before the official release rather than being included as part of the OS. I have a nice 1 TB external for backup purposes.

    Read a report yesterday morning that mentioned cloud storage is not as invulnerable to hacks as its purveyors tell you it is.

    There's people capable to crack the FBI databases, even the White House, or any other secure data, so when they say it's invulnerable to hacks, they mean the regular ones. Geniuses will always exist and break the norm.

    TroutFace said:
    Cool screenies.. looking great! :coolsmile:

    The only other apps I care about are music software - digital audio workstations (DAWs).. Tracktion,Sonar X3, and Sony Acid Music Studio. Pretty niche-y stuff, I'm afraid. But thanks for the offer! :cheese:

    The only software I tested regarding music are Audition (from Adobe) and it works fine, as well as Harmony, both are working properly, the above-mentioned, I didn't knew them, sorry ^^.

    I hope not to beat a dead horse on a painful subject for you, but it really sucks that this is happening for you and I've never heard of this before (for me it's perhaps the most stable app I run). This is probably extremely obvious but have you tried downloading and installing straight up and not using DIM? DIM always seems to put Carrara stuff in the wrong place anyway, since you mentioned it I immediately thought that might be the culprit.

    Of course it could be that Win10 won't work right with Carrara, but since it works for me fine in Win7 and 8.1, I'm assuming it's not that (I hope it's not that, anyway)

    Win10 is not the cause of this crash as it has been going on ever since I brought the app, I'll ask someone of my network to test it. Anyways, I've tried both, using DIM and not using DIM, it just don't want to work.

    True, but it only applies to digital versions. Again, being an old fashioned sort I prefer having a physical copy so that if everything goes belly up I can re-install the OS easily by booting off the disc.

    ISO are downloadable for the purpose of creating bootable, DVD, I confirm that.

    I am wondering about the ones who are doing the technical preview of Windows 10

    Anybody can do it. Some just do it because they want to see if their own printer / graphic card goes well with it. Some others are like me beta-testers and do it on some client's account, we give reports on the problem we encounter, some others are programmers who want to see if their software will follow.

    Plus if you have W10, you'll be able to develop for any MS device and OS type (7, 8.1, 10, mobile, desktop etc) so some just upgrade in advance to test if that's true. (I don't know myself, I abandoned programming a while ago, I only use Game Maker studio and construct now.)

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  • Eustace ScrubbEustace Scrubb Posts: 2,730
    edited December 1969

    StratDragon said:
    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/about

    Is that Lifetime Upgrade Support a beneficence or a threat?
  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,282
    edited December 1969

    StratDragon said:
    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/about

    Sound like an OEM version, or the equivalent. I prefer full versions - if the PC dies you can always move Windows (or an image of the whole system) to another PC.

  • StratDragonStratDragon Posts: 3,278
    edited February 2015

    Eustace Scrubb said:
    StratDragon said:
    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/about
    Is that Lifetime Upgrade Support a beneficence or a threat?

    MS defines that as "six of one, half a dozen of another"

    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/about

    Sound like an OEM version, or the equivalent. I prefer full versions - if the PC dies you can always move Windows (or an image of the whole system) to another PC.

    In windows XP you could. You could spam that serial from one end of the world to the other.
    In Windows 7 the registration # was bound to the hardware "as a whole", if you reinstalled a licensed (non OEM) version of windows you would need to contact MS to allow the serial # to re-validate had you made any HW change from the original install (For instance the drive that windows ran bricked on you.)

    I had several reinstalls in Win 7 (non OEM) that put me on hold for hours trying to get my licensed serial to register with MS's validation servers and a few of these happened on Sunday when they are closed, there was no automated service to assist.

    before then I had y own policy of 6 months use, then wipe drive, reinstall and restore data. This was effectively shut down my MS's licensing changes in Win 7 and after.

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  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,282
    edited February 2015

    StratDragon said:
    Taozen said:
    StratDragon said:
    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/about

    Sound like an OEM version, or the equivalent. I prefer full versions - if the PC dies you can always move Windows (or an image of the whole system) to another PC.

    In Windows 7 the registration # was bound to the hardware "as a whole", if you reinstalled a licensed (non OEM) version of windows you would need to contact MS to allow the serial # to re-validate had you made any HW change from the original install (For instance the drive that windows ran bricked on you.)

    I had several reinstalls in Win 7 (non OEM) that put me on hold for hours trying to get my licensed serial to register with MS's validation servers and a few of these happened on Sunday when they are closed, there was no automated service to assist.

    Haven’t had the need for doing it yet, but as long as it’s possible I don’t mind it’s a bit of trouble. After all, it’s usually not something you (well, I) do every other day.

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,010
    edited December 1969

    ...well the free offer is only for systems that currently have win7 or 8.1 installed.

    As the workstation I am designing will be new, therefore it will not have an existing OS on it on it. The OS on My current system is an OEM and thus cannot be transferred to the new one. Hence, I would need to purchase a new OS to install on the new rig anyway so the "free" deal is sort of moot as I may just as well go for 10 from the start and not have to deal with upgrading the OS on a fully loaded system. Again, my main interest in 10 is due to needing greater memory support than 7Pro has (beyond 192 GB) and not wanting to deal with the ugliness of 8.1.

    There is also no point to use the free offer on my current system either, as again, the current OS is an OEM and the maximum amount of memory the MB supports (24 GB) is easily handled by 7Pro which works fine and will be serviceable for another five years.

  • StratDragonStratDragon Posts: 3,278
    edited December 1969

    From PC Magazine:

    "It's official: Microsoft says you can download the final version of Windows 10 on July 29"

    http://www.pcworld.com/article/2928727/its-official-microsoft-says-you-can-download-the-final-version-of-windows-10-on-july-29.html

    and this is next to useless but it's from MS
    http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-upgrade
    that's an oxymoron, I know.

  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,364
    edited December 1969

    Well even though my key is valid it apparently won't work for the free upgrade. Glad I found out now.... such BS!

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460
    edited December 1969

    Well, I'm glad that DS4.8 works and that people have been testing it in W10. I'm still not going to bite the bullet till it's released and people have been using it for a while. The main thing that bugs me is drivers and their availability. For the entire time I had 8 on my laptop I could never get an 8 driver that worked properly for anything I had. Windows updates wiped out the driver for a fingerprint reader I used to log on with and it then wouldn't accept any older drivers. If I know that there will be proper drivers available for everything I have then I'd feel comfortable about going ahead and upgrading.

    CHEERS!

  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,364
    edited December 1969

    You log on using your finger print? I want that!

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460
    edited December 1969

    The reader is built into my laptop, it was fun when it worked, but now I just use automatic log in. The annoying thing about 8 was that it was tied to my Microsoft account which was linked to my old Hotmail account, which I ditched when it got hacked. Setting up another account was too much hassle so I took it back to 7. I do have an Outlook account now, so it might not be such a pain with 10. I'll see what everyone thinks of it...

    CHEERS!

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,010
    edited June 2015

    ...so is there anywhere one can find what the maximum memory support limits are for the various versions of Win10? This could save me having to purchase Win7Pro in order to upgrade my current system's memory to 24 GB.

    BTW have the GWX icon on the taskbar.

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  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460
    edited December 1969

    I couldn't say for definite, but, I would imagine they are the same for 10 as they are for 7, whatever you have will be whatever you upgrade to. I have 7 Pro so I'd upgrade to 10 Pro.

    CHEERS!

  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,364
    edited December 1969

    How weird. I finally got an icon in my task bar and clicked it and it was the notice to reserve a copy of Windows 10. YAY! I guess I DO qualify after all!

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460
    edited June 2015

    I've forgotten where it is, but, there is a way to bring up an info screen telling you which version of Windows you have. Bear in mind you'll only get the version of 10 that you have of whatever you have now.

    CHEERS!

    EDIT:

    Here it is: C:\Windows\system32\winver.exe

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  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,364
    edited December 1969

    I'm running 8.1

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460
    edited December 1969

    Run that winver in my edit and you'll see what you can upgrade to.

    CHEERS!

  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,364
    edited December 1969

    Well I don't run Pro, I don't need it. So it will be a regular flavor of 10 and I'm just fine with that....

    I have no idea what "winver" or "my edit" is....

  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,653
    edited December 1969

    Yeah im running everything on 7 and 8.1 (new powerful laptop purchased 2 weeks ago) do you know if it will run Reality 4 and luxrender?

  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,364
    edited December 1969

    OK.. typed in winver in Run and got some dialog telling me I'm running Windows 8.1. OK..... cool.

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