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..received a reply over on ZDNet. The "home" version will have the same memory support as WIn 8 (128GB). That will save me having to find and pay for an upgrade to Win7 Pro so I can finally upgrade my memory to 24 GB. Considering it will be a while before I can upgrade the GPU having more memory will help in CPU rendering as I can keep the whole process in physical memory and not have to deal with swapping.
I edited my post as you were quoting it. Winver is an .exe you can run to show your Windows version.
CHEERS!
I personally can't stand 8 or 10.
I wasn't keen on 8 either and 10 will have to go a long way to beat 7.
CHEERS!
I don't that like Windows 8 or 8.1 as well as Windows 10 will lock you out of the Bios. That is part of the Windows Quick Boot Feature. Rather than seeing your post screen you will get that stupid little circle animation.
I also don't like all the preinstalled Bloatware
The Windows 10 User Interface is very Confusing, not just for people who are not adept at computer usage, but for people who have been running multiple versions of multiple operating systems for several years. Nothing is where it was in either Windows 7 or Windows 8.
They have moved many of the items that would normally show up on the right or left hand side of the Start Menu onto a "Secret Menu" which only appears when you right click over the Start Button.
John, I'm certainly not locked out of the Bios nor is there any pre loaded bloatware on my system. I think if you order from Del or HP you might get that but they have been doing that all the way back to Windows 98. Yes, I miss my Start button but got that back with a script from Stardock, cost $5.00. Win 10 brings back the Start button and there are options to have it traditional or have it with live tiles....
On Machines that come with Windows 8, 8.1 and now 10.
In order for Microsoft Quick Boot to work, That stupid little animated Circle, The BIOS Post screen is disabled by default. You have to pretty much guess which of the Function Keys gets you into the Bios. If you don't time it correctly it will not let you in at all, so you have to turn the machine off and try it again. Once you get into the Bios you have to Disable Secure Boot if you want to boot into any legacy hardware.
I consider the Modern UI and live Tiles to be Bloatware. I hate the new UI and where they have relocate some crucial features and functions.
Who in the right mind thought it was a good idea to make people have to right click on the stat button to access anything other than the taskbar and start menu properties.
Apps on Desktop computers to me will always be Stupid.
I run a small computer repair shop. Since Windows 8 came out I have put windows 7 on about 250 or laptops and computers that came with Windows 8. Since people have started messing around with the 10 betas and RC. I have had to remove windows 10 on over a dozen machines.
The very fact that they want to Push 10 out on July of this year make me think its going to be a rushed piece of fecal waste that Microsoft has spent more money on marketing than development.
It has way too many features that I will never use and can't get rid of.
I understand how strongly you feel but it's still not going to stop the march of technology regardless. We all have things to complain about with every new version of Windows that hits and then we get used to it and find the parts that work best for us and ignore what we hate..... it's just how it is.....
Actually, if you consider that the top two PREFERRED operating systems Globally, are Windows 7 in first place and Windows Xp in Second, add to that the drop in sales in not just software but hardware over the last few years. I would say the March or Technology has fallen back a few paces and in some areas completed halted.
It has gotten to the point where some of the Top Manufacturers have had to pull their entire stock of computer hardware from entire countries because of the poor sales. Other companies like Sony and now most recently Samsung have completely stopped its manufacturing of Laptops and Chrome Books in favor of Smart Phones and T.V. sets.
...I hate "hidden" menus.
Part of the reason (besides those ugly garish "Live Tiles" that make your PC's display look like a giant smartphone) I never adopted 8 or 8.1. There was this "Corners" bug...er..."feature" that if you moved the cursor to one side or the other of the screen, a menu bar would appear. I just want my "normal" start menu and taskbar. at the bottom of the screen. Crikey I don't even care for the "feature" in 7 that when you move an application window to the top of the screen, it immediately expands to full screen mode.
May have to rethink the strategy here and put the WIn7 Pro OEM back on the list for the memory upgrade. Hoped to save the extra 140$.
You just educated yourself on the reasons why desktop numbers are falling and probably weren't even aware of it. You can include Tablets as well.
Well I have had no issue with Win 8.1, I have not seen this locked out of Bios bit, but then again I have a self built PC and not those brand name pieces of junk you buy in department stores.. I went to Win 8.1 because the version of Win 7 only allowed 16 gig of system ram which might seem enough for 3D rendering but it really isn't as well as other reasons that I went to 8.1.
But in the end I too had heard stories of how bad Win 8 - 8.1 was supposed to be but I have not seen that at all and have had no issue with it.. The one major thing you can tell how good an operating system is and that is how often you had to reinstall it WinXP was really bad for that, Win 7 was the best and had it going for 2 years but after a incident I had I went to Win 8.1 and not looked back.
One last thing is that some Win 7 users will have come to the end of their support cycle like those who had Win XP and Vista and will have no choice but to upgrade and also that you may find it harder to obtain a hard copy of Win 7 anywhere since bricks and mortar stores stopped selling retail copies months ago.
Anyway I will see what this new OS is like when it is released..
Here is why I feel they have stopped making laptops and Chrome books.Actually I believe its more of a reason for the low sales of laptops and chrome books. Its the Experience. The over all low learning curb they have. Windows 8 has been a burden on my work life since the day it was released. I have had customers buy brand new computers, not from me but from a store like Best Buy, and not used them.
The general Public is not well informed nor are they actually intelligent, which is part of the reason Apple has been doing so well. Its all about having the latest, what ever. Smart phone, OS, game console. What ever it is is as long as its not old. Windows 8 is horrible, everyone hates it. Its sucks for productivity and as far as entertainment. Smart TV Sets and Smart Phones that can link up to the TV and be used as a really neat remote offer a great experience than windows or apple OS can offer at the moment.
Windows 7 is great, not perfect, but way better than 8 or 10 or Spartan OS which will replace Windows. That's right. The next Microsoft Operating System will be Called Spartan OS. But Windows 7 is already considered to be Old. No one wants the good but old OS but the people who actually need it to get work done.
I say if the Software Developers over at Microsoft Gave the people an Experience worth having, then people would start buying them again. Because there are still many things that you can do on a Laptop that you can't do on a tablet or smart phone or smart TV. At least not yet.
I wish that Linux Developers would perfect the programs that allow you to run windows software on any Linux
You just educated yourself on the reasons why desktop numbers are falling and probably weren't even aware of it. You can include Tablets as well.
I windows 7 Ultimate and am currently running 32 Gigs of Ram and I am also planning to build a new X99 system that will be able to take up to 64gigs of DDR4 Memory. Windows 7 Enterprise, Ultimate, and I think Home Server as well, support up to 192GB.
You want to talk about how bad 8.1 is. There are versions of Poser that do not work on it at all. I am not sure if they ever fixed the issue but none of the people that I know that use poser and poser pro stuck around to see. They all went back to 7.
Another thing that I hate about store bought machines that come with 8. I don't know why they are doing this. But each install from 6 to 8 partitions on the hard drive. If you are installing 8 on a machine you can have just the one. I don't get , especially not on an M.2 SSD.
...I find 7 to work quite well and be fairly "invisible" (the way an OS should be) when using other applications. I like a simple clean desktop. with Icons arranged for most efficient operation. I don't like things that take up excessive screen "real estate" (which is why I don't use Smart Content), and on my primary display, rarely if ever have any window open in "full screen" mode (one of the complaints people had with Win 8/.8.1).
I'll need to look more into 10 on my own to determine whether I will go ahead with the upgrade or not (after all I have almost two months).
Here you go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ngnzY5xtI8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wwc5jKc-EgE
...OK. things that will need to be disabled/uninstalled on the Workstation
Smart Tiles
Cortana Digital Assistant
Edge browser
Productivity Apps
X-Box Live & all games.
The workstation is solely for 3D production.
I can't wait to test drive the new browser. IE is old and curmudgeonie! ;-)~
Is there any word on how good Win10 is at compatibility mode? I'm still on 7, and I can still use my ancient copy of PaintShopPro 5 (although I've never been able to get the installer for Lotus WordPro to run). I have a bunch of other old programs that just don't have modern equivalents; I'd be most dischuffed if I had to dump any of them.
Come to think of it, has anyone tried older versions of DAZ|Studio on Win10? I still have D|S2 and D|S3 installed, and I still need to use them now and then to get older content into a fit state to load into D|S4.
Looking at those preview videos, I can see MS have done a few things right after the utter mess of the original Win8 UI, but there's still way too much stuff there done in a tablet/phone manner. I can't see much aimed towards an environment for actively creating on a desktop, rather than passively viewing/reading, which I consider was one of the main Win8 turnoffs.
I'm not all that much impressed, but unless there's a major showstopper lurking in the wings, I think I might be able to work with it.
After turning off a huge amount of cruft.
...good point about older software. Running earlier versions of Daz Studio as well due to lack of support for older plugins and shaders.
Of course the one feature they didn't show in either video is the alternate "Win7" desktop option. Obviously they want people to only see the "Live Tile experience".
You can turn that "aero snap" thing off from an actual control panel (no registry hacking).
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-7/disable-the-mouse-drag-window-arranging-feature-in-windows-7/
The only real option is to run older software in a VM such as VirtualBox or VMWare. I do it, and it works.
I doubt very much that backwards compatibility in Windows 10 will be any better. Of course, this is just speculation based on past experience.
From what I understand, Windows 10 will have the same compatibility as 7 (if not better)
this is what I was told on a programming forum I frequent when I asked a very similar question:
I used to use Visual Studio 6 (yeah, right, that pre-2000 one) as well as applications made using this. Now, applications using VS6 APIs, or really any older API such as DirectX (Direct3D & DirectSound), older CommonControls etc. were supported all the way up to Windows 7. Windows 8(.1) has little to no support for any of those. Partially, this could be bypassed by using XP-Mode.
I'm happy to say that Windows 10 (Build >9841, Up2Date 16/01/2015) again supports them all and more. This might be good news for fans of really old games or devs who just use older tools for fun o:)
Note: Support for older APIs has nothing to do with "Compatibility Mode".
I'll get used to anything. Even Vista didn't bother me. I spend all my time in a couple of programs, my browser and Explorer so the interface doesn't matter that much. As long as I can find my stuff (and run Midnight Sunitaire) I'm okay.
I would like to know, though, from anyone familiar with Win 10 what Explorer is like. I'm currently on Win 7 and have a few dislikes and hoping Win 10 doesn't add any more.
Well they changed to name from Spartan to Edge but its still the same I used a few days ago.
I don't have much to say part from pretty much being a flatter more uninteresting version of IE 11 I also don't have any screen shots saved but here is one I found online.
http://wind8apps.wind8apps.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/project-spartan-wind8apps-e1431778326807.jpg
From my very limited knowledge the browser's code is new though, so none of the old code from IE will be in the Edge browser which MAY help it be speedier than say FF or Chrome? You notice anything speed differences John?
You are right, the code is new but its pretty much the over all same experience.
Like they say Internet Explorer is the Best browser to download a better Browser.
Not sure if this was already stated but for those still using Win 7 you need to get rid of an update, otherwise it will auto upgrade you to Win10 at some point. The file that needs to go is windows update KB3035583. Here is the article about it. http://www.computerworld.com/article/2906810/microsoft-seeds-windows-7-81-pcs-with-windows-10-upgrade-nag-notices.html
...I'll have to go through my updates list to find it. Don't want to flip the power on one morning and find I'm running 10 until I decide whether I really want it or not.
I may just stay on Win7 pro until I have to upgrade to get a new piece of hardware (unlikely) or software to run. The box has no internet connectivity, so they can't auto-update me. This also means I don't need to worry about security fixes. All I really run on it is Studio, DIM, PSP 7 and a small handfull of other utilities - foxit for pdf viewing, vlc for video/audio, and dosbox for a couple of old dos games. I've an old XP system (also not on the internet) for writing and scanning/ocr work.