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Thanks for letting us know there is no buzz cut/no buzz cut option, which is what I'd thought. Definitely out of the cart as I don't need or want a decorative buzz cut. I'd also read fibermesh and did not realize it was strand based hair. I hate the fact that strand based is not visible prior to render (or you have to take extra steps to make it visible). It also often has a "flocked" look that I dislike. Maynard hair doesn't seem to have a big problem with that, at least in the promos.
People crying that they look like children need to calm down. Have you seen a real college student in the last 20 years of your life? Come on. I poked fun at Micheal 8.1 looking young, but that was mostly poking fun at inconsistant Daz policy on how males and females are treated. It is not at all unusual for gender fluid people (and young people in general) to have a youthful look, especially males with clean faces, well into their late 20s. Of all things to get offended by, this is pretty ridiculous. On top of that, they are not being presented in a sexual manner. They have gen mats...so what?
Rather, what is kind of offensive is the pandering and stereotyping presented in this bundle, and the fact that it includes a product that has already been released in another bundle. But at least they are trying to do some representation, I guess. I don't even know if this is good or bad, LOL. People who are non binary are not cartoon characters. They don't all go waving pride flags. Torment did this better, as the non binary aspect did not need to be announced. Torment has both gens available, and that's all that needed to be said. The customer is the one who ultimnately makes that decision for the characters they create using these assets. It is quite nice for customers to be able to have this option. And this aspect is the one thing I do like about August, you get character morphs for both the male and female Genesis here, and that is indeed a good thing even if the presentation itself is a bit much.
I have to mention that conforming clothing is getting outdated. The tops on the female are very clearly distorting on her chest because she doesn't have the standard female breast shape. Why does this still happen? We badly need improvement in this area, and no, I am not talking about using dforce. You should not have to use dforce every single time just to get something to fit a character correctly. This is something Genesis 9 needs to tackle. And if Daz can tackle this issue, then Genesis 9 can even go back to a single model like G1. Then you can have any character be non binary and not worry about fitting issues across sexes. Improving how conforming works would separate Genesis from the human models coming out for game engines that will be competing against Genesis in the coming years. That would be a competitive advantage, and true innovation.
It's not a problem with conforming clothing. There is conforming clothing that's well-made and amazing. The problem is bad non-conforming clothing with dForce slapped on.
chest dformation on clothing is a hard thing to work with actually... i did my best with my transgender shapes and my character DD Blake to minimize //try to balance the areas that were being distorted... even tried to include a fix clothes push morph. But the reason for two shapes is really quite valid, the chest distortion shape affects clothing a LOT. It's not easy. Regardless of the route one takes, it's extra work.
Does anyone knows what clothey they wearing? This is not in the bundle I think
The gray outfit is Q Suit
https://www.daz3d.com/q-suit-for-genesis-8-males
There is a texture expansion with the grey color
https://www.daz3d.com/q-suit-textures
The Jacket is from the dForce dapper outfit. Not sure about the pants. It looks dforce as well judging by the weird fit.
It has for a long time been "the thing" for Daz bundles to have something at least something of a direction. Mabel was a witch, Edward was a secret agent, Tasha was a vampire, Landon was a werewolf, Zelara was a space alien.
Heaven forbid that direction should be people who exist in the real world, or that artists might want to include even if they're not actually part of that group. (I have never been a female AI super soldier, but it doesn't stop me having one as a character).
In all cases, these themes have been something that the end user can either acknowledge or ignore; and, in this case, even if you're not using August as a non-binary character, that theme is actually something that could be very useful, on a level far beyond aliens or vampires...
Male and female character morphs/skins with a family resemblance.
... I am actually staggered at how many people are missing that really fundamental thing. The number of times people want characters to look like brother and sister means that a non-binary character morph is useful on a level *so* far beyond "pandering".
I don't think it's pandering. And I think the point about familial resemblance is a good one. It makes me want even more characters with both male and female morphs in the store. I would just prefer more realistic skin tones. This is not a knock against Morris. She does great work (Leonard's skin is one of my favorites). Toony is just a style that I don't usually go for.
Forget August for a minute. not that valid concerns haven't been raised.
Not all lesbians wear masculine clothes. And as for the poses, most male homosexuals don't perform in drag shows, and most female homosexuals don't manspread. They're not the caricatures they're being represented as here.
Oh, I'm not saying the bundle is perfect, but when it comes to the "A non-binary character?? Big pass on this woke nonsense" brigade, I think they're failing to see the wood for the trees. Non-binary and transgender morphs are very useful even if you never render a single non-binary or transgender character.
Oh sure. I'd have picked up a less stylized version. Maybe next time? Maybe using the Iray Uber Skin shader?
Is the suit on the left of the main August 8.1 promo picture included in this bundle? Or is this something to be released later? I am having trouble identifying it...
The gray outfit is Q Suit
https://www.daz3d.com/q-suit-for-genesis-8-males
There is a texture expansion with the grey color. The black tie comes with the yellow suit
https://www.daz3d.com/q-suit-textures
Ah that's the one! Thank you <3
If anyone buys: https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-rebirth-outfit-for-genesis-8-and-81
Can you tell me if the pants have a waistline under the shirt. The promos do not show this aspect.
Can anyone tell me which of these promos is correct?
They show, for example
August Female, add Mei Lin and get a male-presenting character
and then with the same inputs
August Female, add Mei Lin and get a female-presenting character.
Thanks
There are options to set the shoulders wider, overall body more masculine, chest larger or flatter ect. So to me, since I have worked with the character, the first promo looks like it's the August Female model/UVs with the masculine dials added and the 2nd promo is what the female August looks like without the added more masculine touches. I didn't make the promos...but that's what it seems like to me.
I hope Jeni will forgive me, but this is August with Cain's texture. Hair is Flora by Windfield.
I often use male clothes on females and they seem to work fine with the clone installed.
Now that its been out for a bit, can anyone answer this? It's on a good sale right now, and I need some non-skinny jeans.