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I'm actually wondering if maybe they sneaked the new store software in today. The "compatible software" field has gotten seriously wonky -- not just that it's listing all the new compatibilities (which I suspect they might have wanted to actually, you know, announce) but the one primary compatibility that should be there, isn't -- at least not consistently. The format and typeface of the product pages is slightly different, as well.
Could just be browser wonkiness, I suppose. (Well, the format and typeface. The compatibilities, not so much.)
I suppose putting the new software out during a new product launch would be one way of stress-testing it. And also your support personnel.
Well, the forums got an interesting new format. Not a big fan of it so far, because now the top forums are the ones I never visit, like Bryce and Carrara.
Edit: and then I go back to the main page after posting this, and there’s a new Blender discussion forum, which is just one more thing for me to not read before I get to the things that interest me.
I think you can use the options at that little 'cog-wheel' at the right side to hide those forum-tabs you don't want to see.
Would you prefer scrolling through multiple blender threads in the commons? Or all blender stuff in one location you dont have to click on? Especially if there is a blender bridge and any sort of influx of users asking stuff like "how do I install blender" "how do I navigate the viewport in blender" etc etc.
you might be right... i think the shop loads faster than usual - or nobody is using bandwith around daz or around my house. and i could bet the font in the description where you mention the compatibilities has changed too, the impression seems different.
if it's true, than i'm happy it seems to work, cuz my wishlist still works with daz deal stuff (comments, labels) and the shop pages show the red labels from my wishlist...
So now, for me, when I look at a product's 'required products', I do not get the notification 'owned' anymore for the product(s) that I do already, well, own. Some new obscure external script found it's way into the store again maybe???
yup, same here. and i don't remember if this is a daz or a daz-deals feature, but it's a must.
They said earlier: "The store software being replaced is also not going to happen at the same time as a site redesign, if you aren't an employee or PA the goal is for the site to look and feel virtually identical..."
I'm not seeing "owned" either. Another indicator that maybe the new store software is live already?
If the new store is live, it actually has been almost -- if not quite -- as seamless as they led us to hope it might be. Not entirely -- the missing "owned" and the wonkiness about required software -- but a LOT smoother than the last two transititons, so far.
Huh. Had to think about that for a while to understand what was different. I normally come to the forums through the "Recent Discussions" option (https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussions), so the front page organization is something I hardly ever see.
And a few threads have been moved out of the commons (or wherever else they might have been) into the Blender area, it seems.
Not new store software yet.
The missing "(owned)" for required software must just have been a bug when updating the store for some related changes like splitting out compatible files from compatible software. Probably just some javascript that needs to be repointed to a new location, I'll inform the right people about this.
This looks like Daz3d is going to start selling content for other software interesting.
Heck, recently I'm afraid what I'm going to read in the papers each morning. This ain't the Age of Aquarius I was promised.
Radical changes usually start with a crisis, which breaks the inertia of the old system. Order > chaos > new order. Though I don't think that's necessary for software updates.
yeah, crises can be seen as an interesting way to bring change - unless you belong to the collateral damage...
It is 2020 people. Software for migration is on a level that is totally different than it was in the stone age when the last migration took place. I imagine there will be hiccups and bumps in the road, but not a disaster. And the end result SHOULD be a better functioning website, which I think we can all agree this place could use. If the nicest thing somebody can say about the current site is "Well at least it functions", that is really, really sad. It needs to be updated and be brought into the current decade. This site already crashes pretty frequently and coughs up 404 errors, so I don't think dreading short term crashes from the migration is very logical.
Right now, I am looking at the People and Wearables sets that are being offered for free with the new Kwan bundle. I have it set to sort by "New Arrivals". Yikes this is bad. So Victoria 4 Starter Bundle was apparently released before Brute 8? Hmm...didn't know that. There is absolutely no order to this page! Genesis Evolution Shapes, which is Genesis ONE is also on this page, along with various Genesis 2 bundles, with some Genesis 3 and 8 sprinkled in. What is the deal with this? The sorting function doesn't even work at all. Just look at this, is there any form of coherency to this?
And again, as I have said before, how is a new Daz user supposed to understand what they are seeing in front of them? Somebody who would not understand that Victoria 4 is 4 generations old? Maybe they do, but then Genesis Evolution shows up, is that for Genesis 8? If Genesis doesn't list a number, then maybe it works on all Genesis models! You are confusing new people pretty hard if they get sorting like this.
This doesn't end here. There are certainly other instances where this happens, and there are 20+ pages of content. When you have many pages, you kind of want them to be organized. In some way. Any way. Sheesh. If they cannot be bothered to sort properly, then why would I bother to rummage through them all? This place has some 25,000 products.
Somebody wrote about Costco placing roasted chicken in the back of the store so people can walk by other things along the way. There is a small truth to this, but do note the snack bar is still at the front with their also very famous $1.50 hotdog and drink combo. Plus the space needed to cook the chicken would conflict with the front. They use their chicken in other things like salads and soups, and they need a larger space. By having the chicken separate from the front snack bar, it serves to separate raw chicken and other ingredients from the snack bar location from cross contamination. That is actually a bigger factor in this equation. After all, if it is about making customers browse, why not put the snack bar in the back, too? Anyway, if Costco did it like Daz, the roasted chicken would be in a new location every week, and forcing people to search for it. If Costco did that, it would make their shoppers pretty angry. So although the chicken is in the back, it is always in the same predictable location. And I'll also note that Costco doesn't do insane stacking sales, either. If something is on sale, no coupons are needed, they just take a set amount off the item price, period. It's so simple! What a crazy idea that is.
That's irrelevant, because I would rather the whole subforums were at the bottom of the list, where they were previously. I don't care that there's a Blender forum, and if anything I'm for it. It's just extra scrolling for me.
While I can see why they would want the new stuff at the top, I do think the New User forum should be the first.
I got prompted with Captcha for the first time last night, which made me wonder if some changes had already occurred. Check the box to prove I was human, and mark 2 sets of images.
Actually, there's a very good reason for leaving the snack bar at the front - and not just so that people aren't wandering around eating inside the main area of the store and leaving trash everywhere, but also because it serves a very different purpose... to catch people on the way in or out of the store for one last purchase out of conveniance. After all, people don't normally go to Costco just to get a hot dog.... no matter how you slice it, that's still cheaper to do at home, but HALO operations like the food court and the gas pumps out front are a proven way to grab one last little bit of cash. The $4.99 chicken thing, on the other hand, isn't speculation - it's an insanely huge draw for Costco, as this article on the subject from CNN confirms with direct quotes from Costo's CFO and head of fresh food, as well as multiple other industry experts. Meanwhile, the functions of the food stand at the front are documented in a sister CNN article here.
...I wonder as well, as for a moment, while I was setting up my cart for the Fifty-For-3 coupon everything went dark in the neighbourhood. By the time the power came back up it was past 00:00 "Daz time".
Same for me ... eeeeks!!
I can live with new fonts (even when I don't think that wide font is easy to read ...) but kicking out necessary features is ... not good.
Oh right, don't be afraid of the new store software ...
Totally agree. I've sometimes had to go through dozens of pages of google captcha pictures to "pass the test", despite I'm sure I got almost all of them right. It's totally unpredictable it seems. I got mad at it once it wouldn't let me in after a lot of tries and started clicking at exactly the opposite pictures as what I should, through the next 10 pages. Then I realized it might consider me a bot and ban me if I continued (happened once where I also started "teasing" it with all kinds of odd behaviour because it wouldn't let me in). So I started clicking correct again. After two pages it let me in! Huh - 10 pages 100% wrong and then two right and you're in? Makes no sense unless the system expects humans to make mistakes 90% of the time while bots are always doing it right 90% of the time.
Personally I hate them because I am never sure whether to click or not to click on the pictures with only a slice of vehicle/traffic light/pedestrian crossing ...
And traffic lights ... does the pole leading to the light count or not?
Decisions ...
Back to the "not new" store pages:
The Bridges are here: https://www.daz3d.com/daz-to-maya-blender-3ds-max-and-c4d?cjref=1&utm_source=cj&utm_medium=affiliate&cjevent=879a617eccaf11ea807b004c0a180511#bridges
The "Owned" is still missing ...
True... without a giant asteroid DAZ would be run by sentient velociraptors... and based on the way world stuff is going, it will soon enough be run by sentient cockroaches or mutant spiders or something fun like that.
Or when they ask about pictures with cars in them and there are a bunch of garages in the background... there must cars in them... unless it's a weekday and everyone has driven them to work with them...
Too much stress.
I'm just hoping the new store will have some much desired new features, like:
-tags (and a convenient way to list available tags and combine/search them, lots of websites using tags don't have the option to search for combinations of tags..)
-Suggesting promo credits for unlisted promo assets. (maybe only reveal these after an additional click, otherwise we'll get a long list of suspects, several of which may be false. Default hidden and a good header, like "suspect promo assets" will limit their validity)
And that would be worse how?