New store software before the end of the year

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  • mwokeemwokee Posts: 1,275
    mwokee said:
    mwokee said:
    What really needs to be fixed is the keywording. If I search on AIRPLANE virtually nothing comes up in the results compared to what's actually in the store.

    Have you tried spelling it properly, aeroplane, instead? Though I'd avoid the issue by just using plane which did bring a few hits.

     

    It would be smarter to use both spellings as they are both correct. Some of these PAs could quit their day jobs if they understood how buyers search for products.

    How about just 'plane'.. or 'aircraft'

    If you're a seller then you need to use keywords that buyers will use and search on. There is no magic here. If a buyer can't find your product then you lose a sale. Do buyers search on FANTASTICAL FLYING MACHINE or AIRPLANE? Why is the obvious never obvious?
  • DAZ_RawbDAZ_Rawb Posts: 817

    A new search engine for the store is part of the store conversion, so that will be improved.

     

    The store software being replaced is also not going to happen at the same time as a site redesign, if you aren't an employee or PA the goal is for the site to look and feel virtually identical (and so far, that is true on the test site). One exception is that the discounts and sales should work all the time.

     

    Additionally, Coke Vanilla Zero is the best diet beverage. It seems to be getting harder and harder to find in stores so apparently people are hoarding it like toilet paper during a pandemic or something.

  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500
    DAZ_Rawb said:

    A new search engine for the store is part of the store conversion, so that will be improved.

     

    The store software being replaced is also not going to happen at the same time as a site redesign, if you aren't an employee or PA the goal is for the site to look and feel virtually identical (and so far, that is true on the test site). One exception is that the discounts and sales should work all the time.

     

    Additionally, Coke Vanilla Zero is the best diet beverage. It seems to be getting harder and harder to find in stores so apparently people are hoarding it like toilet paper during a pandemic or something.

    The main problem with the store is, IMHO, the wildly contrived and confusing sales. Then there's DAZ maths ... a percentage off a percentage off confusion. And PC only deals and sales which are a complete turn off for those of us who see no benefit in paying a subscription for discounts on things we probably wouldn't buy anyway. Rendo may be behind DAZ in many ways but their website is much better. 
    As for fizzy drinks ... artificial sweeteners leave a horrible aftertaste. I really don't get how people can ignore that or claim they don't notice it. So I'm left with sugar and my doctor tells me to avoid it so I drink sparkling water instead. That said, if I were to allow myself an occasional can, it would probably be Dr. Pepper which I first tasted while visiting Texas 25 years ago. I don't even know if I could buy it here in New Zealand where I now live. 

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,314
    marble said:
    DAZ_Rawb said:

    A new search engine for the store is part of the store conversion, so that will be improved.

     

    The store software being replaced is also not going to happen at the same time as a site redesign, if you aren't an employee or PA the goal is for the site to look and feel virtually identical (and so far, that is true on the test site). One exception is that the discounts and sales should work all the time.

     

    Additionally, Coke Vanilla Zero is the best diet beverage. It seems to be getting harder and harder to find in stores so apparently people are hoarding it like toilet paper during a pandemic or something.

    And PC only deals and sales which are a complete turn off for those of us who see no benefit in paying a subscription for discounts on things we probably wouldn't buy anyway. 
     

    So on the one hand you don't think it's beneficial to subscribe, but take offense that others who pay for a subscription get benefits?  Those benefts are the reasons we subscribe!

  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,640
    marble said:
    DAZ_Rawb said:

    A new search engine for the store is part of the store conversion, so that will be improved.

     

    The store software being replaced is also not going to happen at the same time as a site redesign, if you aren't an employee or PA the goal is for the site to look and feel virtually identical (and so far, that is true on the test site). One exception is that the discounts and sales should work all the time.

     

    Additionally, Coke Vanilla Zero is the best diet beverage. It seems to be getting harder and harder to find in stores so apparently people are hoarding it like toilet paper during a pandemic or something.

    The main problem with the store is, IMHO, the wildly contrived and confusing sales. Then there's DAZ maths ... a percentage off a percentage off confusion. And PC only deals and sales which are a complete turn off for those of us who see no benefit in paying a subscription for discounts on things we probably wouldn't buy anyway. Rendo may be behind DAZ in many ways but their website is much better
    As for fizzy drinks ... artificial sweeteners leave a horrible aftertaste. I really don't get how people can ignore that or claim they don't notice it. So I'm left with sugar and my doctor tells me to avoid it so I drink sparkling water instead. That said, if I were to allow myself an occasional can, it would probably be Dr. Pepper which I first tasted while visiting Texas 25 years ago. I don't even know if I could buy it here in New Zealand where I now live. 

    That is very much a matter of opinion, personally I far prefer the DAZ one, and I have no issues with its sales as well.

    I hope this new store software will not stop all the stacking sales and other gimmicks that makes shopping here more fun (at least for some of us).

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,159
    edited July 2020
    jakiblue said:

    oh i LOVE that A&W root beer!!!! Can't find it up here unfortunately crying I used to get it in Atherton when we lived there last year, at the IGA - hot off the shelf so I'd buy a few cans to chuck in the fridge. But supermarket here doesn't stock it.  

     

    ...I used to love it, back when you could still get it to go at a roadside stand or drive in. They had "growlers" long before craft breweries today started the practise. 

    I still remember getting that big 1 gallon brown glass jug full of that creamy great tasting root beer.  There was a roadside drive-in on the Lakefront (Lake Michigan) not far from where I lived that we would go to. There was a deposit on the jug, but if you washed out the previous one and brought it back, that was waived.  After they went mainstream, prepackaging their root beer for sale in stores, the quality lapsed, and like every other beverage maker in the 70s, they turned to using HFCS instead of cane sugar which also altered the taste.  I still have several of the heavy glass mugs with their old logo on them. 

    Post edited by kyoto kid on
  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500
    Sevrin said:
    marble said:
    DAZ_Rawb said:

    A new search engine for the store is part of the store conversion, so that will be improved.

     

    The store software being replaced is also not going to happen at the same time as a site redesign, if you aren't an employee or PA the goal is for the site to look and feel virtually identical (and so far, that is true on the test site). One exception is that the discounts and sales should work all the time.

     

    Additionally, Coke Vanilla Zero is the best diet beverage. It seems to be getting harder and harder to find in stores so apparently people are hoarding it like toilet paper during a pandemic or something.

    And PC only deals and sales which are a complete turn off for those of us who see no benefit in paying a subscription for discounts on things we probably wouldn't buy anyway. 
     

    So on the one hand you don't think it's beneficial to subscribe, but take offense that others who pay for a subscription get benefits?  Those benefts are the reasons we subscribe!

    There are now two months of PC exclusive sales. Yet the PC benefits go all year on regardless. So I don't think that you subscribers are missing any benefits or would miss any benefits if DAZ were to cut back on the PC exclusive sales. Just have normal sales with extra discounts for PC members - then everyone gets a look-in. Or maybe you prefer the exclusivity rather than the price benefits?

  • manekiNekomanekiNeko Posts: 1,455
    McGyver said:

    Hmm... wondering if that'll include the forum too... 

    Anyone remember the Magento move?

    Yeesh.

    oh yes pleaaaase.. this forum's UI is sooooooo awful, been grating on me again & again for years, especially the search function is ridiculous - actually i'm faster searching forum threads through google than this search function here. - and then when a result comes up, it shows all the whole bloody comments in full lenght including pics = a nightmare.
    and the normal browser-inbuilt typo correction doesn't work either for a reason i can't grasp..
    i'm sure there's other stuff that could be way better also...

    tho when i hear new software i tend to get afraid too... i mean yes, it could be better and put an end to whatever issues we have with the shop here... or it could be so riddled of bugs for a good while until it "walks by itself" and be even worse than now, at least for a few months.. well, guess we'll find out, since daz's shop and us, we're united for the better or the worse, right?

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,159

    ...new software = new bugs to deal with.

  • manekiNekomanekiNeko Posts: 1,455
    I am worried about the Daz Deals plugin. I use it every day. I REALLY hope that @Ati and @Overdrawn will be able to get Daz Deals to work with the new site software.

    100% agree, the plugin makes the shop to what it should be, there are so many indispensable functions that @Ati and @Overdrawn have added (no idea whay they have never been implemented by daz already!) - without this plugin, it's gonna be very very bothersome to navigate daily thru the sales' craziness or just normal shopping without giving up after a few minutes or drown into the huge load of products. i think that without the plugin, not knowing what the best bargain is for me and including my wishlist, the monthly PC coupons and all this, i might just rather NOT buy than risk a bad bargain or waste hours because the functions of the plugin aren't there...

  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500
    Havos said:
    marble said:
    DAZ_Rawb said:

    A new search engine for the store is part of the store conversion, so that will be improved.

     

    The store software being replaced is also not going to happen at the same time as a site redesign, if you aren't an employee or PA the goal is for the site to look and feel virtually identical (and so far, that is true on the test site). One exception is that the discounts and sales should work all the time.

     

    Additionally, Coke Vanilla Zero is the best diet beverage. It seems to be getting harder and harder to find in stores so apparently people are hoarding it like toilet paper during a pandemic or something.

    The main problem with the store is, IMHO, the wildly contrived and confusing sales. Then there's DAZ maths ... a percentage off a percentage off confusion. And PC only deals and sales which are a complete turn off for those of us who see no benefit in paying a subscription for discounts on things we probably wouldn't buy anyway. Rendo may be behind DAZ in many ways but their website is much better
    As for fizzy drinks ... artificial sweeteners leave a horrible aftertaste. I really don't get how people can ignore that or claim they don't notice it. So I'm left with sugar and my doctor tells me to avoid it so I drink sparkling water instead. That said, if I were to allow myself an occasional can, it would probably be Dr. Pepper which I first tasted while visiting Texas 25 years ago. I don't even know if I could buy it here in New Zealand where I now live. 

    That is very much a matter of opinion, personally I far prefer the DAZ one, and I have no issues with its sales as well.

    I hope this new store software will not stop all the stacking sales and other gimmicks that makes shopping here more fun (at least for some of us).

    Of course it is a matter of opinion (not just mine). That's what a forum is for. But you do go on to confirm my point about the contrived and confusing sales and I agree with your sentiment.

  • OverdrawnOverdrawn Posts: 590
    I am worried about the Daz Deals plugin. I use it every day. I REALLY hope that @Ati and @Overdrawn will be able to get Daz Deals to work with the new site software.

    100% agree, the plugin makes the shop to what it should be, there are so many indispensable functions that @Ati and @Overdrawn have added (no idea whay they have never been implemented by daz already!) - without this plugin, it's gonna be very very bothersome to navigate daily thru the sales' craziness or just normal shopping without giving up after a few minutes or drown into the huge load of products. i think that without the plugin, not knowing what the best bargain is for me and including my wishlist, the monthly PC coupons and all this, i might just rather NOT buy than risk a bad bargain or waste hours because the functions of the plugin aren't there...

    Awe. Thanks! :) We've enjoyed building it, and look forward to continuing to help make things awesome(r) where we can. ;)

  • manekiNekomanekiNeko Posts: 1,455
    edited July 2020
    Cybersox said:

    Got to be better than what they are using now...

    You greatly underestimate the power for "new and improved" to completely destroy things that were working perfectly well.  In all honesty, I can't remember a website upgrade in the last ten year that didn't make the user experience worse.   United Airlines used to be a breeze to work with until they "improved it", and now I have to answer my security questions every time I check in from a device other than my phone.  Anyone who's worked in I.T. knows that the vast majority of website work isn't done to make things better, but to force up the number of page views being tracked.  

    +1. Like the "new and improved" Deviantart. 

    i hear you @zombietaggerung   crying .. EcApocalipse (i mean, the black UI isn't even that bad - IF the stuff worked and important features hadn't been killed while stupid useless ones have been added...)

    Post edited by manekiNeko on
  • Daz Jack TomalinDaz Jack Tomalin Posts: 13,924
    edited July 2020
    marble said:
    Sevrin said:
    marble said:
    DAZ_Rawb said:

    A new search engine for the store is part of the store conversion, so that will be improved.

     

    The store software being replaced is also not going to happen at the same time as a site redesign, if you aren't an employee or PA the goal is for the site to look and feel virtually identical (and so far, that is true on the test site). One exception is that the discounts and sales should work all the time.

     

    Additionally, Coke Vanilla Zero is the best diet beverage. It seems to be getting harder and harder to find in stores so apparently people are hoarding it like toilet paper during a pandemic or something.

    And PC only deals and sales which are a complete turn off for those of us who see no benefit in paying a subscription for discounts on things we probably wouldn't buy anyway. 
     

    So on the one hand you don't think it's beneficial to subscribe, but take offense that others who pay for a subscription get benefits?  Those benefts are the reasons we subscribe!

    There are now two months of PC exclusive sales. Yet the PC benefits go all year on regardless. So I don't think that you subscribers are missing any benefits or would miss any benefits if DAZ were to cut back on the PC exclusive sales. Just have normal sales with extra discounts for PC members - then everyone gets a look-in. Or maybe you prefer the exclusivity rather than the price benefits?

    I must admit I'm confused by this.. as a non-member, you're not losing anything with the inclusion of another PC sales event..  There were just more items available to you to buy (at list price)..?  The discounts on those items were the same as they would have been regardless (and not lessened at all because of it.. ) but yes, as you suggested, there were increased/additional discounts for PC members and extra incentives for non-members to join.

    Post edited by Daz Jack Tomalin on
  • manekiNekomanekiNeko Posts: 1,455
    Overdrawn said:
    I am worried about the Daz Deals plugin. I use it every day. I REALLY hope that @Ati and @Overdrawn will be able to get Daz Deals to work with the new site software.

    100% agree, the plugin makes the shop to what it should be, there are so many indispensable functions that @Ati and @Overdrawn have added (no idea whay they have never been implemented by daz already!) - without this plugin, it's gonna be very very bothersome to navigate daily thru the sales' craziness or just normal shopping without giving up after a few minutes or drown into the huge load of products. i think that without the plugin, not knowing what the best bargain is for me and including my wishlist, the monthly PC coupons and all this, i might just rather NOT buy than risk a bad bargain or waste hours because the functions of the plugin aren't there...

    Awe. Thanks! :) We've enjoyed building it, and look forward to continuing to help make things awesome(r) where we can. ;)

    you are welcome and very thanked for your hard & precious work ^^

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,314
    marble said:
    Sevrin said:
    marble said:
    DAZ_Rawb said:

    A new search engine for the store is part of the store conversion, so that will be improved.

     

    The store software being replaced is also not going to happen at the same time as a site redesign, if you aren't an employee or PA the goal is for the site to look and feel virtually identical (and so far, that is true on the test site). One exception is that the discounts and sales should work all the time.

     

    Additionally, Coke Vanilla Zero is the best diet beverage. It seems to be getting harder and harder to find in stores so apparently people are hoarding it like toilet paper during a pandemic or something.

    And PC only deals and sales which are a complete turn off for those of us who see no benefit in paying a subscription for discounts on things we probably wouldn't buy anyway. 
     

    So on the one hand you don't think it's beneficial to subscribe, but take offense that others who pay for a subscription get benefits?  Those benefts are the reasons we subscribe!

    There are now two months of PC exclusive sales. Yet the PC benefits go all year on regardless. So I don't think that you subscribers are missing any benefits or would miss any benefits if DAZ were to cut back on the PC exclusive sales. Just have normal sales with extra discounts for PC members - then everyone gets a look-in. Or maybe you prefer the exclusivity rather than the price benefits?

    What is the problem?  They had a half-off membership sale just the other day.  That's less than USD3.00/month in exchange for, if nothing else, USD12.00 in coupons.  If anyone doesn't spend enough to take advantage of those coupons, then I don't know why they would care how the store is run.

  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500
    marble said:
    Sevrin said:
    marble said:
    DAZ_Rawb said:

    A new search engine for the store is part of the store conversion, so that will be improved.

     

    The store software being replaced is also not going to happen at the same time as a site redesign, if you aren't an employee or PA the goal is for the site to look and feel virtually identical (and so far, that is true on the test site). One exception is that the discounts and sales should work all the time.

     

    Additionally, Coke Vanilla Zero is the best diet beverage. It seems to be getting harder and harder to find in stores so apparently people are hoarding it like toilet paper during a pandemic or something.

    And PC only deals and sales which are a complete turn off for those of us who see no benefit in paying a subscription for discounts on things we probably wouldn't buy anyway. 
     

    So on the one hand you don't think it's beneficial to subscribe, but take offense that others who pay for a subscription get benefits?  Those benefts are the reasons we subscribe!

    There are now two months of PC exclusive sales. Yet the PC benefits go all year on regardless. So I don't think that you subscribers are missing any benefits or would miss any benefits if DAZ were to cut back on the PC exclusive sales. Just have normal sales with extra discounts for PC members - then everyone gets a look-in. Or maybe you prefer the exclusivity rather than the price benefits?

    I must admit I'm confused by this.. as a non-member, you're not losing anything with the inclusion of another PC sales event..  There were just more items available to you to buy (at list price)..?  The discounts on those items were the same as they would have been regardless (and not lessened at all because of it.. ) but yes, as you suggested, there were increased/additional discounts for PC members and extra incentives for non-members to join.

    The point is that I hardly bother to look at the store during the PC Sales because I assume that I'm excluded from all the deals and specials. That can't be what DAZ is hoping for can it? Surely they are hoping to attract more visits, not deter people? Pushing exclusivity just means that people who don't want to be cajoled into a subscription scheme will stay away. At least that's my approach - maybe I am missing something. But I have brought up the subject of PC benefits in a separate thread and have yet to be convinced. I just don't like most of what's on offer in the PC+ category and I rarely buy new products (I have to wait for sales with bigger discounts otherwise I just could not afford this hobby).

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 13,033

    The main problem with the store is, IMHO, the wildly contrived and confusing sales.

    On the other hand, quite a few people find stacking sales fun and interesting.

    Then there's DAZ maths ... a percentage off a percentage off confusion.

    That's not "Daz math", that's just regular math.

    And PC only deals and sales which are a complete turn off for those of us who see no benefit in paying a subscription for discounts on things we probably wouldn't buy anyway.

    So you don't want to pay for a subscription but don't want those who pay for it to get special benefits? indecision

    Rendo may be behind DAZ in many ways but their website is much better. 

    I certainly don't agree with that, and I doubt I'm alone. Navigation at Rendo is dreadful IMO.

  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500
    Leana said:

     

    So you don't want to pay for a subscription but don't want those who pay for it to get special benefits? indecision

     

    Do not put words into my mouth!

    I have no problem with giving benefits to people who pay subscription - there would be no point to a subscription otherwise. I clearly stated that my problem was with exclusivity - that means dedicating the store to exclusive PC sales for two months every year. I could have addressed each one of your rebuttals just as you did mine but it is clearly a waste of time. 

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 12,252
    mwokee said:
    What really needs to be fixed is the keywording. If I search on AIRPLANE virtually nothing comes up in the results compared to what's actually in the store.

    Have you tried spelling it properly, aeroplane, instead? Though I'd avoid the issue by just using plane which did bring a few hits.

    "Oh, an aeroplane.  I say, we are grand aren't we."

    https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2hwqm3 at1:05

    There's a Monty Python sketch for every Britishism.devil

  • butterflyfishbutterflyfish Posts: 1,536

    1. Hooray for a new search engine!

    2. I love the PC sales. Never change them.

    3. Sugary soda is nauseating. Diet Pepsi all the way!

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 13,033
    marble said:
    Leana said:

     

    So you don't want to pay for a subscription but don't want those who pay for it to get special benefits? indecision

     

    Do not put words into my mouth!

    I have no problem with giving benefits to people who pay subscription - there would be no point to a subscription otherwise. I clearly stated that my problem was with exclusivity - that means dedicating the store to exclusive PC sales for two months every year. I could have addressed each one of your rebuttals just as you did mine but it is clearly a waste of time. 

    You still get new products and sale prices during PC sales, we just get better deals...

  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500
    Sevrin said:
    marble said:
    Sevrin said:
    marble said:
    DAZ_Rawb said:

    A new search engine for the store is part of the store conversion, so that will be improved.

     

    The store software being replaced is also not going to happen at the same time as a site redesign, if you aren't an employee or PA the goal is for the site to look and feel virtually identical (and so far, that is true on the test site). One exception is that the discounts and sales should work all the time.

     

    Additionally, Coke Vanilla Zero is the best diet beverage. It seems to be getting harder and harder to find in stores so apparently people are hoarding it like toilet paper during a pandemic or something.

    And PC only deals and sales which are a complete turn off for those of us who see no benefit in paying a subscription for discounts on things we probably wouldn't buy anyway. 
     

    So on the one hand you don't think it's beneficial to subscribe, but take offense that others who pay for a subscription get benefits?  Those benefts are the reasons we subscribe!

    There are now two months of PC exclusive sales. Yet the PC benefits go all year on regardless. So I don't think that you subscribers are missing any benefits or would miss any benefits if DAZ were to cut back on the PC exclusive sales. Just have normal sales with extra discounts for PC members - then everyone gets a look-in. Or maybe you prefer the exclusivity rather than the price benefits?

    What is the problem?  They had a half-off membership sale just the other day.  That's less than USD3.00/month in exchange for, if nothing else, USD12.00 in coupons.  If anyone doesn't spend enough to take advantage of those coupons, then I don't know why they would care how the store is run.

    So your point is what? That I don't spend enough to have a say here? Maybe non-PC members should be excluded from the forum too? Why not make DAZ a subscription only company - isn't that the logical conclusion?

    I have been buying from DAZ for more than 15 years so I think I have a right to an opinion on what I would like to see by way of deals and discounts. It is my only hobby and it is my choice as to whether I want what is offered by using the PC coupons or what is available to PC members only or whether I spend my meagre funds on something I actually want.

    By the way, during those 15 years I have taken out memebrship on several occasions - usually when there is a half price 3 month offer. I have used those membership periods to buy some of the things that are available and that I value - such as most of the Jack Tomalin products and lots of shaders. Otherwise, I have not found products that I need and I realised that I ended up not using the coupons. Again, if PC makes sense to you I have no problem with you taking advantage of the benefits but I can't understand the quite nasty reaction to a suggestion that 2 months of the year dedicated to PC members does not encourage me to visit the store during those times. 

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 12,027
    marble said:
    marble said:
    Sevrin said:
    marble said:
    DAZ_Rawb said:

    A new search engine for the store is part of the store conversion, so that will be improved.

     

    The store software being replaced is also not going to happen at the same time as a site redesign, if you aren't an employee or PA the goal is for the site to look and feel virtually identical (and so far, that is true on the test site). One exception is that the discounts and sales should work all the time.

     

    Additionally, Coke Vanilla Zero is the best diet beverage. It seems to be getting harder and harder to find in stores so apparently people are hoarding it like toilet paper during a pandemic or something.

    And PC only deals and sales which are a complete turn off for those of us who see no benefit in paying a subscription for discounts on things we probably wouldn't buy anyway. 
     

    So on the one hand you don't think it's beneficial to subscribe, but take offense that others who pay for a subscription get benefits?  Those benefts are the reasons we subscribe!

    There are now two months of PC exclusive sales. Yet the PC benefits go all year on regardless. So I don't think that you subscribers are missing any benefits or would miss any benefits if DAZ were to cut back on the PC exclusive sales. Just have normal sales with extra discounts for PC members - then everyone gets a look-in. Or maybe you prefer the exclusivity rather than the price benefits?

    I must admit I'm confused by this.. as a non-member, you're not losing anything with the inclusion of another PC sales event..  There were just more items available to you to buy (at list price)..?  The discounts on those items were the same as they would have been regardless (and not lessened at all because of it.. ) but yes, as you suggested, there were increased/additional discounts for PC members and extra incentives for non-members to join.

    The point is that I hardly bother to look at the store during the PC Sales because I assume that I'm excluded from all the deals and specials.

    That's your assumption and a very wrong assumption. There where awesome deals to be had during the PC+ sale for non-PC+ members as well.

     

    marble said:
    marble said:
    Sevrin said:
    marble said:
    DAZ_Rawb said:

    A new search engine for the store is part of the store conversion, so that will be improved.

     

    The store software being replaced is also not going to happen at the same time as a site redesign, if you aren't an employee or PA the goal is for the site to look and feel virtually identical (and so far, that is true on the test site). One exception is that the discounts and sales should work all the time.

     

    Additionally, Coke Vanilla Zero is the best diet beverage. It seems to be getting harder and harder to find in stores so apparently people are hoarding it like toilet paper during a pandemic or something.

    And PC only deals and sales which are a complete turn off for those of us who see no benefit in paying a subscription for discounts on things we probably wouldn't buy anyway. 
     

    So on the one hand you don't think it's beneficial to subscribe, but take offense that others who pay for a subscription get benefits?  Those benefts are the reasons we subscribe!

    There are now two months of PC exclusive sales. Yet the PC benefits go all year on regardless. So I don't think that you subscribers are missing any benefits or would miss any benefits if DAZ were to cut back on the PC exclusive sales. Just have normal sales with extra discounts for PC members - then everyone gets a look-in. Or maybe you prefer the exclusivity rather than the price benefits?

    I must admit I'm confused by this.. as a non-member, you're not losing anything with the inclusion of another PC sales event..  There were just more items available to you to buy (at list price)..?  The discounts on those items were the same as they would have been regardless (and not lessened at all because of it.. ) but yes, as you suggested, there were increased/additional discounts for PC members and extra incentives for non-members to join.

    maybe I am missing something. 

    I believe you are. If you weren't around to actually see the PC+ sale and the great deals to be had for even non-PC+ members, then I'd say you definitely "missed" something. For non-PC+ members, the sale was like other sales but with even larger discounts than normal. The PC+ sale was more about inclusion than exclusion - non-PC+ members got deals that they wouldn't have gotten during an average sale day. 

  • NylonGirlNylonGirl Posts: 2,294

    I'm going to go ahead and make a guess that DAZ has moved the site to Bluehost.

  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500
    marble said:
    marble said:
    Sevrin said:
    marble said:
    DAZ_Rawb said:

    A new search engine for the store is part of the store conversion, so that will be improved.

     

    The store software being replaced is also not going to happen at the same time as a site redesign, if you aren't an employee or PA the goal is for the site to look and feel virtually identical (and so far, that is true on the test site). One exception is that the discounts and sales should work all the time.

     

    Additionally, Coke Vanilla Zero is the best diet beverage. It seems to be getting harder and harder to find in stores so apparently people are hoarding it like toilet paper during a pandemic or something.

    And PC only deals and sales which are a complete turn off for those of us who see no benefit in paying a subscription for discounts on things we probably wouldn't buy anyway. 
     

    So on the one hand you don't think it's beneficial to subscribe, but take offense that others who pay for a subscription get benefits?  Those benefts are the reasons we subscribe!

    There are now two months of PC exclusive sales. Yet the PC benefits go all year on regardless. So I don't think that you subscribers are missing any benefits or would miss any benefits if DAZ were to cut back on the PC exclusive sales. Just have normal sales with extra discounts for PC members - then everyone gets a look-in. Or maybe you prefer the exclusivity rather than the price benefits?

    I must admit I'm confused by this.. as a non-member, you're not losing anything with the inclusion of another PC sales event..  There were just more items available to you to buy (at list price)..?  The discounts on those items were the same as they would have been regardless (and not lessened at all because of it.. ) but yes, as you suggested, there were increased/additional discounts for PC members and extra incentives for non-members to join.

    The point is that I hardly bother to look at the store during the PC Sales because I assume that I'm excluded from all the deals and specials.

    That's your assumption and a very wrong assumption. There where awesome deals to be had during the PC+ sale for non-PC+ members as well.

     

    marble said:
    marble said:
    Sevrin said:
    marble said:
    DAZ_Rawb said:

    A new search engine for the store is part of the store conversion, so that will be improved.

     

    The store software being replaced is also not going to happen at the same time as a site redesign, if you aren't an employee or PA the goal is for the site to look and feel virtually identical (and so far, that is true on the test site). One exception is that the discounts and sales should work all the time.

     

    Additionally, Coke Vanilla Zero is the best diet beverage. It seems to be getting harder and harder to find in stores so apparently people are hoarding it like toilet paper during a pandemic or something.

    And PC only deals and sales which are a complete turn off for those of us who see no benefit in paying a subscription for discounts on things we probably wouldn't buy anyway. 
     

    So on the one hand you don't think it's beneficial to subscribe, but take offense that others who pay for a subscription get benefits?  Those benefts are the reasons we subscribe!

    There are now two months of PC exclusive sales. Yet the PC benefits go all year on regardless. So I don't think that you subscribers are missing any benefits or would miss any benefits if DAZ were to cut back on the PC exclusive sales. Just have normal sales with extra discounts for PC members - then everyone gets a look-in. Or maybe you prefer the exclusivity rather than the price benefits?

    I must admit I'm confused by this.. as a non-member, you're not losing anything with the inclusion of another PC sales event..  There were just more items available to you to buy (at list price)..?  The discounts on those items were the same as they would have been regardless (and not lessened at all because of it.. ) but yes, as you suggested, there were increased/additional discounts for PC members and extra incentives for non-members to join.

    maybe I am missing something. 

    I believe you are. If you weren't around to actually see the PC+ sale and the great deals to be had for even non-PC+ members, then I'd say you definitely "missed" something. For non-PC+ members, the sale was like other sales but with even larger discounts than normal. The PC+ sale was more about inclusion than exclusion - non-PC+ members got deals that they wouldn't have gotten during an average sale day. 

    It is promoted as a PC+ Members sale. I'm not a member so I don't bother looking. 

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,159
    mwokee said:
    What really needs to be fixed is the keywording. If I search on AIRPLANE virtually nothing comes up in the results compared to what's actually in the store.

    Have you tried spelling it properly, aeroplane, instead? Though I'd avoid the issue by just using plane which did bring a few hits.

    "Oh, an aeroplane.  I say, we are grand aren't we."

    https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2hwqm3 at1:05

    There's a Monty Python sketch for every Britishism.devil

    ...one of the other good "argument" sketches.

  • WolfwoodWolfwood Posts: 914
    marble said:
    marble said:
    Sevrin said:
    marble said:
    DAZ_Rawb said:

    A new search engine for the store is part of the store conversion, so that will be improved.

     

    The store software being replaced is also not going to happen at the same time as a site redesign, if you aren't an employee or PA the goal is for the site to look and feel virtually identical (and so far, that is true on the test site). One exception is that the discounts and sales should work all the time.

     

    Additionally, Coke Vanilla Zero is the best diet beverage. It seems to be getting harder and harder to find in stores so apparently people are hoarding it like toilet paper during a pandemic or something.

    And PC only deals and sales which are a complete turn off for those of us who see no benefit in paying a subscription for discounts on things we probably wouldn't buy anyway. 
     

    So on the one hand you don't think it's beneficial to subscribe, but take offense that others who pay for a subscription get benefits?  Those benefts are the reasons we subscribe!

    There are now two months of PC exclusive sales. Yet the PC benefits go all year on regardless. So I don't think that you subscribers are missing any benefits or would miss any benefits if DAZ were to cut back on the PC exclusive sales. Just have normal sales with extra discounts for PC members - then everyone gets a look-in. Or maybe you prefer the exclusivity rather than the price benefits?

    I must admit I'm confused by this.. as a non-member, you're not losing anything with the inclusion of another PC sales event..  There were just more items available to you to buy (at list price)..?  The discounts on those items were the same as they would have been regardless (and not lessened at all because of it.. ) but yes, as you suggested, there were increased/additional discounts for PC members and extra incentives for non-members to join.

    The point is that I hardly bother to look at the store during the PC Sales because I assume that I'm excluded from all the deals and specials. That can't be what DAZ is hoping for can it? Surely they are hoping to attract more visits, not deter people? Pushing exclusivity just means that people who don't want to be cajoled into a subscription scheme will stay away. At least that's my approach - maybe I am missing something. But I have brought up the subject of PC benefits in a separate thread and have yet to be convinced. I just don't like most of what's on offer in the PC+ category and I rarely buy new products (I have to wait for sales with bigger discounts otherwise I just could not afford this hobby).

    I think you need to stop assuming and actually read the offers.

    Regular Sales:

    * Average 5 and up to 7 days available for debut. Except DO and very particular exceptions everyone gets the same deal.

    PC Month Sales:

    * Daily sale special was available to everyone.

    * Extra 10% buying 2 also available to everyone.

    * Some daily specials (50%/65%) not tied to PC+

    * PC for a day (items that are not from the PC+ pool) offered best price to members but still heavy discounted for everyone (i might be wrong, but i think bundles too).

    I'm very critic of this site promotions, specially how that particular month favored a single genre on the big releases. But your point of it being exclusive offer is just not accurate.

     

    marble said:
    marble said:
    marble said:
    Sevrin said:
    marble said:
    DAZ_Rawb said:

    A new search engine for the store is part of the store conversion, so that will be improved.

     

    The store software being replaced is also not going to happen at the same time as a site redesign, if you aren't an employee or PA the goal is for the site to look and feel virtually identical (and so far, that is true on the test site). One exception is that the discounts and sales should work all the time.

     

    Additionally, Coke Vanilla Zero is the best diet beverage. It seems to be getting harder and harder to find in stores so apparently people are hoarding it like toilet paper during a pandemic or something.

    And PC only deals and sales which are a complete turn off for those of us who see no benefit in paying a subscription for discounts on things we probably wouldn't buy anyway. 
     

    So on the one hand you don't think it's beneficial to subscribe, but take offense that others who pay for a subscription get benefits?  Those benefts are the reasons we subscribe!

    There are now two months of PC exclusive sales. Yet the PC benefits go all year on regardless. So I don't think that you subscribers are missing any benefits or would miss any benefits if DAZ were to cut back on the PC exclusive sales. Just have normal sales with extra discounts for PC members - then everyone gets a look-in. Or maybe you prefer the exclusivity rather than the price benefits?

    I must admit I'm confused by this.. as a non-member, you're not losing anything with the inclusion of another PC sales event..  There were just more items available to you to buy (at list price)..?  The discounts on those items were the same as they would have been regardless (and not lessened at all because of it.. ) but yes, as you suggested, there were increased/additional discounts for PC members and extra incentives for non-members to join.

    The point is that I hardly bother to look at the store during the PC Sales because I assume that I'm excluded from all the deals and specials.

    That's your assumption and a very wrong assumption. There where awesome deals to be had during the PC+ sale for non-PC+ members as well.

     

    marble said:
    marble said:
    Sevrin said:
    marble said:
    DAZ_Rawb said:

    A new search engine for the store is part of the store conversion, so that will be improved.

     

    The store software being replaced is also not going to happen at the same time as a site redesign, if you aren't an employee or PA the goal is for the site to look and feel virtually identical (and so far, that is true on the test site). One exception is that the discounts and sales should work all the time.

     

    Additionally, Coke Vanilla Zero is the best diet beverage. It seems to be getting harder and harder to find in stores so apparently people are hoarding it like toilet paper during a pandemic or something.

    And PC only deals and sales which are a complete turn off for those of us who see no benefit in paying a subscription for discounts on things we probably wouldn't buy anyway. 
     

    So on the one hand you don't think it's beneficial to subscribe, but take offense that others who pay for a subscription get benefits?  Those benefts are the reasons we subscribe!

    There are now two months of PC exclusive sales. Yet the PC benefits go all year on regardless. So I don't think that you subscribers are missing any benefits or would miss any benefits if DAZ were to cut back on the PC exclusive sales. Just have normal sales with extra discounts for PC members - then everyone gets a look-in. Or maybe you prefer the exclusivity rather than the price benefits?

    I must admit I'm confused by this.. as a non-member, you're not losing anything with the inclusion of another PC sales event..  There were just more items available to you to buy (at list price)..?  The discounts on those items were the same as they would have been regardless (and not lessened at all because of it.. ) but yes, as you suggested, there were increased/additional discounts for PC members and extra incentives for non-members to join.

    maybe I am missing something. 

    I believe you are. If you weren't around to actually see the PC+ sale and the great deals to be had for even non-PC+ members, then I'd say you definitely "missed" something. For non-PC+ members, the sale was like other sales but with even larger discounts than normal. The PC+ sale was more about inclusion than exclusion - non-PC+ members got deals that they wouldn't have gotten during an average sale day. 

    It is promoted as a PC+ Members sale. I'm not a member so I don't bother looking. 

    Special note considering what you said you are after, that the PC for a day had LOTS of non new, non PC+ items on sale several times during that month. Since you were in doubt if PC+ is for you or don't, checking all the offers would be the way to do it.

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,307
    edited July 2020
    Cybersox said:
    I am worried about the Daz Deals plugin. I use it every day. I REALLY hope that @Ati and @Overdrawn will be able to get Daz Deals to work with the new site software.

    Ditto Taozen's DAZ browsers...  Hopefull they'll at least be a day or so of warning so we can complete thorough back ups since it's almost guarunteed that a lot of older data is going to be lost. 

    For what I know no product data were lost during the Magento update (2012?) except for a few products, and AFAIK some of these if not all were restored.  I was working together with AndyBerlin back then checking a lot of the product data. 

    As for how it may affect the DAZ Product Manager I can't tell as I currently don't know their plans.  Last time, when they shifted to Magento, one of their web developers contacted me and, after I signed an NDA, gave me information about and access to the test server because he wanted to help me with updating the program.  Things have changed since however and AFAIK he isn't on the web team anymore so I don't know if the people currently on the team are willing to provide any information (basically it's just changes with the login and the product library that can affect the functionality of the program). 

    BTW my forum name is Taoz now, just to avoid any confusion.

    Post edited by Taoz on
  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,307
    kyoto kid said:

    ...new software = new bugs to deal with.

    But probably easier to fix than Magento bugs.

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