New store software before the end of the year

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  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 12,017
    Overdrawn said:
    I am worried about the Daz Deals plugin. I use it every day. I REALLY hope that @Ati and @Overdrawn will be able to get Daz Deals to work with the new site software.

    We've already reached out to Daz and begin discussions around how we might prep for the new site. We're certainly keeping an eye on the future. :)

    That's good news! Thank you, @Overdrawn :D Hopefully implementing Daz Deals for the new software will be possible. It would be awful to lose such a valuable asset. You guys have made shopping here so much more enjoyable with the amazing plugin! :)

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,558

    Got to be better than what they are using now...

    You greatly underestimate the power for "new and improved" to completely destroy things that were working perfectly well.  In all honesty, I can't remember a website upgrade in the last ten year that didn't make the user experience worse.   United Airlines used to be a breeze to work with until they "improved it", and now I have to answer my security questions every time I check in from a device other than my phone.  Anyone who's worked in I.T. knows that the vast majority of website work isn't done to make things better, but to force up the number of page views being tracked.  

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,558
    I am worried about the Daz Deals plugin. I use it every day. I REALLY hope that @Ati and @Overdrawn will be able to get Daz Deals to work with the new site software.

    Ditto Taozen's DAZ browsers...  Hopefull they'll at least be a day or so of warning so we can complete thorough back ups since it's almost guarunteed that a lot of older data is going to be lost. 

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,564

    like New Coke devil was only so they could bring back old Coke and sell more!frown

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,123
    DAZ_Rawb said:

     

    Additionally, we already have it deployed for the sister company so our staff is already familiar with how to feed and water it. So, this migration is definitely going to be easier on you all than the last one.

    ...

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,558
    edited July 2020

    like New Coke devil was only so they could bring back old Coke and sell more!frown

    Not exactly.  There's a whole book on the subject, and the REAL reason that they did new Coke was to get out of the terms of a contract with the U.S. bottlers that had been in place since the 30s.  The original formula for Coke was based on cane sugar, which was becoming increasngly more expensive vs. the corn syrup which most of Coke's competitors were using, but Coke's contract with the bottlers guaranteed that they wouldn't change the formula or raise the price above a certain percentage of the retail price, and the then new head of COke realized that within a few years they would either have to raise the retail price of Coke products or make increasingly less on each drink produced.  To get around it, they introduced New Coke, which, the CocaCola company argued, was a new drink and therefore not subject to the old contract restrictions.  However, when the bottlers demanded that they bring back the original formula, Coke instead countered with Coke Classic, which is NOT the same thing as the original Coke, as CC uses corn syrup instead of the original cane sugar.  That said, there were a few markets they couldn't or didn't use that trick on, which is why the Kosher version of Coke still uses cane sugar, as does the Coke sold in some other portions of the world like Mexico.  And yes, it tastes better than Classic, which is why some stores in the U.S. import it.

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,564

    and Australia because we grow so much sugar and can only make so much Bundi Rum to mix it with

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,558
    edited July 2020

    and Australia because we grow so much sugar and can only make so much Bundi Rum to mix it with

    Hmm.  I usually drink the diet or zero stuff so I've never thought to try regular Coke in Oz... well, except when it's an added-flavor version we don't have in the States like Razzberry.  Usually I'm too busy sampling all of the other local brews like Solo or the variants of Lift...   

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  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,314
    Cybersox said:

    and Australia because we grow so much sugar and can only make so much Bundi Rum to mix it with

    Hmm.  I usually drink the diet or zero stuff so I've never thought to try regular Coke in Oz... well, except when it's an added-flavor version we don't have in the States like Razzberry.  Usually I'm too busy sampling all of the other local brews like Solo or the variants of Lift...   

    "sampling"

  • evacynevacyn Posts: 991
    I wonder why they spent time redesigning the landing page recently when the plan was a store revamp.
  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,851

    Just gonna ask how many of those who are scared of the store migrating to a new software have complained within the last month or two about the various issues in the current store?  I know these kinda big changes can be worrying, but there are real problems in the status quo too.

    I haven't. Some of my best deals came from glitches, so I have no issues with the current store. Guess we'll see what the new store is like

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 12,017
    edited July 2020

    We drink Coke Zero and Pepsi Zero Sugar. Both are pretty good and taste WAY better than the regular "diet" versions of either. My mom drinks "Diet Coke" and ewwww that stuff is so gross, imo. With both the "Zero" versions of Coke and Pepsi they've come VERY Close to tasting like the regular versions.

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,830

    Coke used to be soooo goooood in Georgia when they still used cane sugar. There really is a big difference. Did you know cane sugar is grown in central Georgia? Or at least it was. We were taken on a field trip once to a Coca-Cola bottling plant all the way in Atlanta and no surprise they gve us all a bottle of 6 oz bottle of coke and one or two other advertising trinkets.

  • zombietaggerungzombietaggerung Posts: 3,875
    edited July 2020
    Cybersox said:

    Got to be better than what they are using now...

    You greatly underestimate the power for "new and improved" to completely destroy things that were working perfectly well.  In all honesty, I can't remember a website upgrade in the last ten year that didn't make the user experience worse.   United Airlines used to be a breeze to work with until they "improved it", and now I have to answer my security questions every time I check in from a device other than my phone.  Anyone who's worked in I.T. knows that the vast majority of website work isn't done to make things better, but to force up the number of page views being tracked.  

    +1. Like the "new and improved" Deviantart. 

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  • WolfwoodWolfwood Posts: 900

    Just gonna ask how many of those who are scared of the store migrating to a new software have complained within the last month or two about the various issues in the current store?  I know these kinda big changes can be worrying, but there are real problems in the status quo too.

    I'm in general of the complain/critic crowd, but i think this is a needed change and for this go as smooth as possible in a timely manner it will need user help.

    If anyone expects a migration of this magnitud without any issues at all, that would be almost unrealistic. It does not matter how much testing / staging is done before pulling the trigger, there will be issues. There is always a transition period, so better prepare to give feedback. 

    Of course i would recomend the improvement of the submit ticket form, as it is now is rubbish and adding all the potential issues that this migration may have it will be chaotic for any help desk team to properly sort it out. Yes, i know, not going to happen.

    Does it mean i'm not afraid? Nope. But besides the transition period, what i'm more afraid is what may come next: Daz Central + Store Bridge. Since the moment i tested central beta the UI screamed one word: STORE. DIM is probably a 100 times better but daz insist on forcing central as much as possible. It would not be strange if eventually we get Central only offers/coupons. Daz currently deletes codes that people share from facebook/instagram so don't tell me that could not happen.

    Cybersox said:

    Got to be better than what they are using now...

    You greatly underestimate the power for "new and improved" to completely destroy things that were working perfectly well.  In all honesty, I can't remember a website upgrade in the last ten year that didn't make the user experience worse.   United Airlines used to be a breeze to work with until they "improved it", and now I have to answer my security questions every time I check in from a device other than my phone.  Anyone who's worked in I.T. knows that the vast majority of website work isn't done to make things better, but to force up the number of page views being tracked.  

    That is true, most of new trends are to help tracking and user/customer control. Still, this website has its base so outdated that it needs to change. Every time i read that because of very minor changes to products pages (like replacing a pic) may make the product either temporarily unavailable or its price/discount to be inconsistent, i can only facepalm. i can almost even smell how old this site is. And i'm from a country that lived the 80's during the 90's.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,123
    Cybersox said:

    Got to be better than what they are using now...

    You greatly underestimate the power for "new and improved" to completely destroy things that were working perfectly well.  In all honesty, I can't remember a website upgrade in the last ten year that didn't make the user experience worse.   United Airlines used to be a breeze to work with until they "improved it", and now I have to answer my security questions every time I check in from a device other than my phone.  Anyone who's worked in I.T. knows that the vast majority of website work isn't done to make things better, but to force up the number of page views being tracked.  

    +1. Like the "new and improved" Deviantart. 

    ...+1 on your +1 comment.  Crikey, the search there is totally buggered up.

  • TykeyStudiosTykeyStudios Posts: 882
    Cybersox said:

    Got to be better than what they are using now...

    You greatly underestimate the power for "new and improved" to completely destroy things that were working perfectly well.  In all honesty, I can't remember a website upgrade in the last ten year that didn't make the user experience worse.   United Airlines used to be a breeze to work with until they "improved it", and now I have to answer my security questions every time I check in from a device other than my phone.  Anyone who's worked in I.T. knows that the vast majority of website work isn't done to make things better, but to force up the number of page views being tracked.  

    +1. Like the "new and improved" Deviantart. 

    Hahaha

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,123
    edited July 2020
    Cybersox said:

    like New Coke devil was only so they could bring back old Coke and sell more!frown

    Not exactly.  There's a whole book on the subject, and the REAL reason that they did new Coke was to get out of the terms of a contract with the U.S. bottlers that had been in place since the 30s.  The original formula for Coke was based on cane sugar, which was becoming increasngly more expensive vs. the corn syrup which most of Coke's competitors were using, but Coke's contract with the bottlers guaranteed that they wouldn't change the formula or raise the price above a certain percentage of the retail price, and the then new head of COke realized that within a few years they would either have to raise the retail price of Coke products or make increasingly less on each drink produced.  To get around it, they introduced New Coke, which, the CocaCola company argued, was a new drink and therefore not subject to the old contract restrictions.  However, when the bottlers demanded that they bring back the original formula, Coke instead countered with Coke Classic, which is NOT the same thing as the original Coke, as CC uses corn syrup instead of the original cane sugar.  That said, there were a few markets they couldn't or didn't use that trick on, which is why the Kosher version of Coke still uses cane sugar, as does the Coke sold in some other portions of the world like Mexico.  And yes, it tastes better than Classic, which is why some stores in the U.S. import it.

    ...yeah, fortunately both the Safeway and Fred Meyer (Kroger) near me have Coca Cola from Mexico (when it isn't sold out).  Besides tasting better, it also comes in glass instead of plastic bottles as well.  The two downsides, you can only get 355 ml (12 oz) or "Medio Litro" (16.9 oz), and yes, more expensive than the HFCS or artificially sweetened versions.

    They both also handle Jarritos which is a Mexican brand that not only uses cane sugar but all natural fruit flavourings and are usually about 95¢ for a 355ml bottle.  My favourites are Guava, Papaya, and Pineapple.

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  • Silent WinterSilent Winter Posts: 3,914
    JOdel said:

    Would be nice to be able to do without sale announcements which aren't. Like today's 4-hour flash sale, in which nearly nothing shows as being on sale, whatsoever. Not on the store page, not in the cart.

    Don't know which 4-hours they are talking about, but right now isn't one of them.

    Do you also have a new release in the cart? (the last few 4-hour flash sales have all had that as a requirement)

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,558
    kyoto kid said:
    Cybersox said:

    Got to be better than what they are using now...

    You greatly underestimate the power for "new and improved" to completely destroy things that were working perfectly well.  In all honesty, I can't remember a website upgrade in the last ten year that didn't make the user experience worse.   United Airlines used to be a breeze to work with until they "improved it", and now I have to answer my security questions every time I check in from a device other than my phone.  Anyone who's worked in I.T. knows that the vast majority of website work isn't done to make things better, but to force up the number of page views being tracked.  

    +1. Like the "new and improved" Deviantart. 

    ...+1 on your +1 comment.  Crikey, the search there is totally buggered up.

    Everything there is messed up.  But that site's been on a downward spiral ever since they were purchased by Wix, who keep expanding the list of things they charge for, encouraging many of the long time and higher profile artists who made the site what it was to leave for greener pastures elsewhere.  

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,123
    edited July 2020

    ...yeah, took to putting illustrations in teh gallery here, however the one here has its issues as well. 

    For example you can't move things around in a given gallery (like your main one), only between sub galleries .The only way to change the sequence within a single gallery would be to delete what went into the wrong place and re-submit it.  To set up a gallery here that is more chronological in order (newest back to oldest) like my "Featured" gallery at DA, I'd have to delete everything (which includes comments and notations) and rebuild it from scratch - a total pain.

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  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,558
    kyoto kid said:
    Cybersox said:

    like New Coke devil was only so they could bring back old Coke and sell more!frown

    Not exactly.  There's a whole book on the subject, and the REAL reason that they did new Coke was to get out of the terms of a contract with the U.S. bottlers that had been in place since the 30s.  The original formula for Coke was based on cane sugar, which was becoming increasngly more expensive vs. the corn syrup which most of Coke's competitors were using, but Coke's contract with the bottlers guaranteed that they wouldn't change the formula or raise the price above a certain percentage of the retail price, and the then new head of COke realized that within a few years they would either have to raise the retail price of Coke products or make increasingly less on each drink produced.  To get around it, they introduced New Coke, which, the CocaCola company argued, was a new drink and therefore not subject to the old contract restrictions.  However, when the bottlers demanded that they bring back the original formula, Coke instead countered with Coke Classic, which is NOT the same thing as the original Coke, as CC uses corn syrup instead of the original cane sugar.  That said, there were a few markets they couldn't or didn't use that trick on, which is why the Kosher version of Coke still uses cane sugar, as does the Coke sold in some other portions of the world like Mexico.  And yes, it tastes better than Classic, which is why some stores in the U.S. import it.

    ...yeah, fortunately both the Safeway and Fred Meyer (Kroger) near me have Coca Cola from Mexico (when it isn't sold out).  Besides tasting better, it also comes in glass instead of plastic bottles as well.  The two downsides, you can only get 355 ml (12 oz) or "Medio Litro" (16.9 oz), and yes, more expensive than the HFCS or artificially sweetened versions.

    They both also handle Jarritos which is a Mexican brand that not only uses cane sugar but all natural fruit flavourings and are usually about 95¢ for a 355ml bottle.  My favourites are Guava, Papaya, and Pineapple.

    The best equivalent to original Coke in the U.S. now is Mexicane cola by the Austin based company Maine Root, whose soft drinks are sold through chains like Whole Foods and HEB, and served on the fountain at a number of upscale burger joints.  Maine Root also distributes Doppelganger, which is a copy of the original Dr. Pepper formula from back when it also still used caine sugar. 

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,123

    ...there's a pub nearby that has Cock & Bull Ginger Beer (cane sugar) on their mixer gun. Makes for the perfect Gin or Brandy Buck.

     

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,921
    I guess I better make sure all my purchases are downloaded. Who knows what's going to get hosed up during the change
  • jakibluejakiblue Posts: 7,281

    I'm a fan of vanilla coke (don't judge me) but I'd rather go Wimmers - unfortunately the only place in this tiny stupid town that sold it cold, no longer does - and the supermarket only stocks three flavours on the hot shelves. Although have to admit River Port's portello is still the best - but only available in Victoria, not up here, and even tho it's tempting to move to Victoria just so I can have my beloved portello again, right now I'm kinda glad we moved further north when we bought a place instead of Victoria.  

    Cybersox said:

    and Australia because we grow so much sugar and can only make so much Bundi Rum to mix it with

    Hmm.  I usually drink the diet or zero stuff so I've never thought to try regular Coke in Oz... well, except when it's an added-flavor version we don't have in the States like Razzberry.  Usually I'm too busy sampling all of the other local brews like Solo or the variants of Lift...   

     

  • KeryaKerya Posts: 10,943

    Just gonna ask how many of those who are scared of the store migrating to a new software have complained within the last month or two about the various issues in the current store?  I know these kinda big changes can be worrying, but there are real problems in the status quo too.

     

    I didn't complain ...so here is one person that is scared who didn't complain.

  • KeryaKerya Posts: 10,943
    JOdel said:

    Would be nice to be able to do without sale announcements which aren't. Like today's 4-hour flash sale, in which nearly nothing shows as being on sale, whatsoever. Not on the store page, not in the cart.

    Don't know which 4-hours they are talking about, but right now isn't one of them.

     

    Reading the fine print: you have to have a new item in the cart too to trigger the 70%

  • AprilYSHAprilYSH Posts: 1,522
    jakiblue said:
    Cybersox said:

    and Australia because we grow so much sugar and can only make so much Bundi Rum to mix it with

    Hmm.  I usually drink the diet or zero stuff so I've never thought to try regular Coke in Oz... well, except when it's an added-flavor version we don't have in the States like Razzberry.  Usually I'm too busy sampling all of the other local brews like Solo or the variants of Lift...   

    I'm a fan of vanilla coke (don't judge me) but I'd rather go Wimmers - unfortunately the only place in this tiny stupid town that sold it cold, no longer does - and the supermarket only stocks three flavours on the hot shelves. Although have to admit River Port's portello is still the best - but only available in Victoria, not up here, and even tho it's tempting to move to Victoria just so I can have my beloved portello again, right now I'm kinda glad we moved further north when we bought a place instead of Victoria.  

    A&W root beer ftw! I wish we got diet in Perth though, I want to try that.   
    Watch the australians keep this off topic lol

  • jakibluejakiblue Posts: 7,281

    oh i LOVE that A&W root beer!!!! Can't find it up here unfortunately crying I used to get it in Atherton when we lived there last year, at the IGA - hot off the shelf so I'd buy a few cans to chuck in the fridge. But supermarket here doesn't stock it.  

    AprilYSH said:
    jakiblue said:
    Cybersox said:

    and Australia because we grow so much sugar and can only make so much Bundi Rum to mix it with

    Hmm.  I usually drink the diet or zero stuff so I've never thought to try regular Coke in Oz... well, except when it's an added-flavor version we don't have in the States like Razzberry.  Usually I'm too busy sampling all of the other local brews like Solo or the variants of Lift...   

    I'm a fan of vanilla coke (don't judge me) but I'd rather go Wimmers - unfortunately the only place in this tiny stupid town that sold it cold, no longer does - and the supermarket only stocks three flavours on the hot shelves. Although have to admit River Port's portello is still the best - but only available in Victoria, not up here, and even tho it's tempting to move to Victoria just so I can have my beloved portello again, right now I'm kinda glad we moved further north when we bought a place instead of Victoria.  

    A&W root beer ftw! I wish we got diet in Perth though, I want to try that.   
    Watch the australians keep this off topic lol

     

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,564
    AprilYSH said:
    jakiblue said:
    Cybersox said:

    and Australia because we grow so much sugar and can only make so much Bundi Rum to mix it with

    Hmm.  I usually drink the diet or zero stuff so I've never thought to try regular Coke in Oz... well, except when it's an added-flavor version we don't have in the States like Razzberry.  Usually I'm too busy sampling all of the other local brews like Solo or the variants of Lift...   

    I'm a fan of vanilla coke (don't judge me) but I'd rather go Wimmers - unfortunately the only place in this tiny stupid town that sold it cold, no longer does - and the supermarket only stocks three flavours on the hot shelves. Although have to admit River Port's portello is still the best - but only available in Victoria, not up here, and even tho it's tempting to move to Victoria just so I can have my beloved portello again, right now I'm kinda glad we moved further north when we bought a place instead of Victoria.  

    A&W root beer ftw! I wish we got diet in Perth though, I want to try that.   
    Watch the australians keep this off topic lol

    Big Sars

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