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  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,084
    edited December 1969

    Lord Majestic said:
    DanaTA said:
    Lord Majestic said:
    DanaTA said:
    AidanaWillowRaven said:
    DanaTA said:
    AidanaWillowRaven said:
    DanaTA said:
    I tried to use the biblical items from the optitex store and got an error with the shawl for V4. When I looked at the files, there was one that had no filename, just an extension. Has anyone else even tried these items?

    Dana

    I've used them, but it was some time ago, in DS3 ... Have you tried reinstalling?

    It's just a zip file. I did open it and drag the items into the folders again, replacing. But in the zip file, in the
    content/data/3_0/ShawlV4_14739_Shape/maps/
    folder there is a file named .dsv. There is no filename, just the extension. The other two files are OptitexUVs.dsv and uv.dsv. I tried deleting the file that had no filename and then I got a different error, but still an error. It's not like the DAZ3D store, there's no apparent way to re-download paid items. I can't even find a way to log in, there's only a LoginPA link in the menu. And who has heard from Simon? It seems he's been missing in action for over a year. I don't know what to do to remedy this. I abandoned the scene I was making with this stuff.

    Does it only work in DS3? I am using 4.6.

    Dana

    I created that book cover in DS3, so I assume it still does. I haven't tried to use them in 4.6, but my other old dynamics work in 4.6 ok. Have you tried to email Martin directly? I had a brief email chat with him this past summer.

    No, I haven't emailed him. The forum only shows his profile and PM link, no email address. I have asked things of him in here (the forums) in the past, with no reply for some time. I hope he is well.

    Dana
    The problem isn't the .dsv file, it's the 'content' folder. DS 4+ doesn't use the 'content' folder it uses the 'My Library' folder.

    If with older zips made for DS3 you copy the 'content' folder into your 'My Library' folder it won't work. What you have to do is open the 'content' folder in the zip and copy it's contents into your 'My Library' folder. The biblical stuff works fine in 4.6 then.

    I don't think that matters. The other three dynamic items loaded just fine. They were all made at the same time and bought at the same time. I don't think DS cares what the folder is called, as long as it is registered there so to speak. I have already done renders with things in the content/Runtime folders that I've always used. I "install" everything to there, unless it is specifically for DS4, then I let it install where it wants (usually plug-ins we're talking about here), and it picks the correct structure based on whether I checked DS3 or DS4. And both are also not in My Library.

    Somehow I think a file without a name is a problem...for DS as well as for Windows. Windows will allow it, but it probably can have "unexpected results".

    Dana

    So how can I have just rendered this in 4.6 by following my method? Loaded and rendered with no reported errors, and the .dsv file is there just as for you.

    Another thing...I never said your method doesn't work, I said that mine does, too.

    Dana

  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001
    edited December 1969

    DanaTA said:

    I don't think that matters. The other three dynamic items loaded just fine. They were all made at the same time and bought at the same time. I don't think DS cares what the folder is called, as long as it is registered there so to speak. I have already done renders with things in the content/Runtime folders that I've always used. I "install" everything to there, unless it is specifically for DS4, then I let it install where it wants (usually plug-ins we're talking about here), and it picks the correct structure based on whether I checked DS3 or DS4. And both are also not in My Library.

    The key is not ending up with My Library > Content > Runtime 'nesting'...My Library/Content can live side by side, but things don't turn out very well with one inside the other. How you maintain the separation doesn't really matter...just that there isn't any.

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,084
    edited December 2013

    mjc1016 said:
    DanaTA said:

    I don't think that matters. The other three dynamic items loaded just fine. They were all made at the same time and bought at the same time. I don't think DS cares what the folder is called, as long as it is registered there so to speak. I have already done renders with things in the content/Runtime folders that I've always used. I "install" everything to there, unless it is specifically for DS4, then I let it install where it wants (usually plug-ins we're talking about here), and it picks the correct structure based on whether I checked DS3 or DS4. And both are also not in My Library.

    The key is not ending up with My Library > Content > Runtime 'nesting'...My Library/Content can live side by side, but things don't turn out very well with one inside the other. How you maintain the separation doesn't really matter...just that there isn't any.

    Exactly!

    Here is my folder setup...

    Dana

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  • WillowRavenWillowRaven Posts: 3,724
    edited December 1969

    Has anyone seen Martin around? Is anyone besides Martin taking requests for Daz Dynamic items, for purchase or free?

    I need an apron, like the one on the Dynamic 1900s Maids Dress (http://www.daz3d.com/dynamic-1900s-maids-dress), but I need it to be a separate garment, not attached to a dress. The pinafore for YT Julie's Wondrous Dress is too short, too full, and for too small a figure. I need it to fit an adult and go to mid-shin.

    I'd like it to tie at the waist, around the back, and for variety, a version with a front panel (like the Amish wear) would be great, too).

    Any ideas?

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    DanaTA said:
    mjc1016 said:
    DanaTA said:

    I don't think that matters. The other three dynamic items loaded just fine. They were all made at the same time and bought at the same time. I don't think DS cares what the folder is called, as long as it is registered there so to speak. I have already done renders with things in the content/Runtime folders that I've always used. I "install" everything to there, unless it is specifically for DS4, then I let it install where it wants (usually plug-ins we're talking about here), and it picks the correct structure based on whether I checked DS3 or DS4. And both are also not in My Library.

    The key is not ending up with My Library > Content > Runtime 'nesting'...My Library/Content can live side by side, but things don't turn out very well with one inside the other. How you maintain the separation doesn't really matter...just that there isn't any.

    Exactly!

    Here is my folder setup...

    DanaIs it me or is your content folders in the Programs folder on your C drive? If so what version is your OS?

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,084
    edited December 1969

    Jaderail said:
    DanaTA said:
    mjc1016 said:
    DanaTA said:

    I don't think that matters. The other three dynamic items loaded just fine. They were all made at the same time and bought at the same time. I don't think DS cares what the folder is called, as long as it is registered there so to speak. I have already done renders with things in the content/Runtime folders that I've always used. I "install" everything to there, unless it is specifically for DS4, then I let it install where it wants (usually plug-ins we're talking about here), and it picks the correct structure based on whether I checked DS3 or DS4. And both are also not in My Library.

    The key is not ending up with My Library > Content > Runtime 'nesting'...My Library/Content can live side by side, but things don't turn out very well with one inside the other. How you maintain the separation doesn't really matter...just that there isn't any.

    Exactly!

    Here is my folder setup...

    DanaIs it me or is your content folders in the Programs folder on your C drive? If so what version is your OS?

    It's not the C drive, it's on the H drive (yes, I have several drives). But alas, I am still on Windows XP. I'm hoping to change that, when I have some money, and before they drop the security update patches in April.

    I'd love to have a beast like yours...but no income means no nice, new, toys.

    Dana

  • WillowRavenWillowRaven Posts: 3,724
    edited December 1969

    Anyone else having trouble loading dynamics after the recent dynamics controller update? I try to load anything and only the rig loads.

  • Cayman StudiosCayman Studios Posts: 1,131
    edited December 1969

    Well, I've managed to load and drape the 50s Cocktail Dress onto V4 with no difficulty. What precisely are you trying to load? If I have it I'll give it a go.

  • JabbaJabba Posts: 1,458
    edited December 1969

    So long as your most recent install was NOT through DIM, you should be fine...

    I use DIM to know when a new version is out (by letting DIM install it) but then go to DAZ account and download Dynamic Plug-in to manually install. I don't know why, but dynamic controller never installs correctly for me via DIM.

  • WillowRavenWillowRaven Posts: 3,724
    edited December 1969

    Cayman said:
    Well, I've managed to load and drape the 50s Cocktail Dress onto V4 with no difficulty. What precisely are you trying to load? If I have it I'll give it a go.

    I've tried three different items so far. One freebie, and two paid items. All are doing the same thing, only loading the rig, and all were working before the update. I'm thinking that was it and I just forgot to do something after the update. I'm hoping I don't need to reinstall all of my dynamics.

    I've tried Urban Cargo Pants, Women's Jeans, and Jeans Slim Fit (the freebie).

  • WillowRavenWillowRaven Posts: 3,724
    edited December 1969

    Jabba101 said:
    So long as your most recent install was NOT through DIM, you should be fine...

    I use DIM to know when a new version is out (by letting DIM install it) but then go to DAZ account and download Dynamic Plug-in to manually install. I don't know why, but dynamic controller never installs correctly for me via DIM.

    Ahhh ... I did use DIM. I will go back and do it manually. Thanks.

  • bighbigh Posts: 8,147
    edited December 1969

    AidanaWillowRaven said:
    Jabba101 said:
    So long as your most recent install was NOT through DIM, you should be fine...

    I use DIM to know when a new version is out (by letting DIM install it) but then go to DAZ account and download Dynamic Plug-in to manually install. I don't know why, but dynamic controller never installs correctly for me via DIM.

    Ahhh ... I did use DIM. I will go back and do it manually. Thanks.

    I used DIM and the clothes are draping fine - so its not DIM .

  • Cayman StudiosCayman Studios Posts: 1,131
    edited December 1969

    AidanaWillowRaven said:
    Cayman said:
    Well, I've managed to load and drape the 50s Cocktail Dress onto V4 with no difficulty. What precisely are you trying to load? If I have it I'll give it a go.

    I've tried three different items so far. One freebie, and two paid items. All are doing the same thing, only loading the rig, and all were working before the update. I'm thinking that was it and I just forgot to do something after the update. I'm hoping I don't need to reinstall all of my dynamics.

    I've tried Urban Cargo Pants, Women's Jeans, and Jeans Slim Fit (the freebie).

    I don't have any of those, but other articles are loading OK. And for what it's worth my Dynamic Clothing Control (64-bit Windows version) was installed using DIM.

  • WillowRavenWillowRaven Posts: 3,724
    edited December 1969

    Well, reinstalling it manually didn't fix the problem.

    This happened right after I installed the update, so it had to have screwed something up.

  • Cayman StudiosCayman Studios Posts: 1,131
    edited December 1969

    Have you tried reinstalling say the Cargo Pants, just to check that some files or links haven't gone awol? I also wouldn't mind seeing a screen shot of the problem.

  • JonnyRayJonnyRay Posts: 1,744
    edited December 1969

    You might also try clearing any references to that object from the data folder.

    Default Path: C:\Users\Public\Documents\My DAZ 3D Library\data

    I don' t have any Opitex stuff installed on this PC; so I'm not sure how it works with temporary files, but many times when a bit of content worked in the past, but doesn't work after an upgrade, I've found that it is a problem with semi-permanent files that get created in the data folder.

    The safest way to handle it would be to move any references you see to the cargo pants in that folder tree somewhere else. What should happen is that if DS doesn't find the temporary files in the data folder, it will recreate them.

  • KhoryKhory Posts: 3,854
    edited February 2014

    You might also try clearing any references to that object from the data folder.

    That would remove all the geometry information. I can promise it will not work if there is no data for it.

    Edit: I should elaborate. If you load a product that was not created for studio the first time it is saved the geometry is saved as a data file. Any product created for studio currently is created with a data file from the go if it is properly done. Pretty sure that dynamic clothes have always had the geometry in a data file that is installed with the product as well. It use to be safe to delete data files back when they were just the files that studio needed for scenes etc but now they are often where the "meat" of a product is.

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  • Testing6790Testing6790 Posts: 1,091
    edited December 1969

    I finally got dynamic cloth room working and I have to say it's the best thing I've ever owned for DS.

  • WillowRavenWillowRaven Posts: 3,724
    edited December 1969

    Cayman said:
    Have you tried reinstalling say the Cargo Pants, just to check that some files or links haven't gone awol? I also wouldn't mind seeing a screen shot of the problem.

    There is nothing to show in a screenshot. Nothing loads but the rig, which is invisible. And it's not some wonky iles, but all of them ... shirts, dresses, m4, v3, genesis ... all of them.

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,565
    edited December 1969

    In DS, does Help > About Installed Plugins show any problems?

  • WillowRavenWillowRaven Posts: 3,724
    edited December 1969

    fixmypcmike said:
    In DS, does Help > About Installed Plugins show any problems?

    I wouldn't know if there were, but here's a screenshot ...

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  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,565
    edited December 1969

    Yeah, the red plugs show they aren't working. Are you sure the versions of DS and DCC match?

  • WillowRavenWillowRaven Posts: 3,724
    edited December 1969

    fixmypcmike said:
    Yeah, the red plugs show they aren't working. Are you sure the versions of DS and DCC match?

    I just followed the update in DIM. So what do you suggest?

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,565
    edited December 1969

    AidanaWillowRaven said:
    fixmypcmike said:
    Yeah, the red plugs show they aren't working. Are you sure the versions of DS and DCC match?

    I just followed the update in DIM. So what do you suggest?

    Is this the first time you used DIM to install it? Can you go to DIM settings > applications and post a screenshot?

  • SimonJMSimonJM Posts: 5,945
    edited December 1969

    I have DS 4.6.2.118 64-bit (which is, at the moment, the latest non-beta release).
    If you get up the Help> About Installed Plugins .. again, scroll down to the Dynamic Clothing Plugin - Control line and click on it. At the bottom of the dialog you should see some information appear, showing the filename and, mote importantly, the version number. Mine says 1.3.2.118. The general rule is the right-hand most digits of the DCC plugin and DS should match (here it is .118).

  • WillowRavenWillowRaven Posts: 3,724
    edited December 1969

    SimonJM said:
    I have DS 4.6.2.118 64-bit (which is, at the moment, the latest non-beta release).
    If you get up the Help> About Installed Plugins .. again, scroll down to the Dynamic Clothing Plugin - Control line and click on it. At the bottom of the dialog you should see some information appear, showing the filename and, mote importantly, the version number. Mine says 1.3.2.118. The general rule is the right-hand most digits of the DCC plugin and DS should match (here it is .118).

    It's telling me the DCC is for a newer version of Daz. I thought I had the newest version?

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  • frank0314frank0314 Posts: 13,329
    edited December 1969

    Current version of DAZ Studio is 4.6.2.118

  • WillowRavenWillowRaven Posts: 3,724
    edited December 1969

    Looks like I need the newest version ... But I don't see where it is downloadable. Do I just go back to my product list and re-download it?

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,565
    edited December 1969

    Yes, it should show up in DIM also.

  • JabbaJabba Posts: 1,458
    edited February 2014

    4.6.2.118 is the latest official release version

    *edit* uh oh, typing too slow again :lol:

    Post edited by Jabba on
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