Victoria 8

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  • LinwellyLinwelly Posts: 6,058
    bryanll1 said:

    Genesis 8?  So what about 4, 5, 6 & 7?

    The probabyl chose to adapt to the Vicky generation names so it gets less confusing

  • tombraider4evertombraider4ever Posts: 751
    edited June 2017

    Is it possible to use a morph from Genesis 3 on Genesis 8 female? I have made a Lara character that I would like to import to Genesis 8. 

     

    Also: why is it called Genesis 8 and not Genesis 4? I would have thought that Genesis 4 comes after Genesis 3 ...

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  • cherpenbeckcherpenbeck Posts: 1,416

    Because we begged DAZ to drop that nonsense with Genesis having other numbers than their morphs. (like Genesis1/Victoria5, Genesis2/Victoria 6, Genesis3 /Victoria7)

  • ThatGuyThatGuy Posts: 797

    Also keeping it as Genesis 4 will get it confused with Generation 4 since most refer to Genesis products as G#.

    Not a big fan of how Victoria 8 looks.  She looks a lot like Lilith 7 and really either looks like a tranny or just looks too old - of course this is just MY opinion.  I might just stick to the Genesis 3 gals for a while.

  • Thanks for the replies! :) About my other question, is it possible to transfer a character morph for Genesis 3 to Genesis 8?

  • erostewerostew Posts: 230
    edited June 2017

    Just gonna pass at this point I think.

    New unattractive Victoria to spend more money on? That's a no.

    Buy the head and body morphs and expressions seperately yet again? Also no.

    Spend a bunch of money in the middle of the month when payday is a couple of weeks away? Big NO.

    Buy that stuff at the end of the month when I have money because Daz will keep the discount on it for that long? Never gonna happen.

    Keep paying for PC membership even though almost all the free "gifts" are props I don't want just in case they might actually get a sudden generous impulser? Daz can bite me!

    Do I sound bitter? Maybe it's because I spent the last couple of months buying Merchant Resources for Genesis 3 and my project for that is now dead aand moldering in an unmarked grave.

    On the bright side It looks like I'll be saving a lot of money in the next few years. Guess I need to find a new hobby.

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  • ALLIEKATBLUEALLIEKATBLUE Posts: 2,983
    Blantyr said:

     

    You can load UV skins from Genesis 3 into Genesis 8, but the don't come over true.  To the left, G8 loaded with Lorin's skin, to the right a pure Genesis 3 Lorin.  I liked this skin for its pinkish tone, but they seem to trying to ruin old skins.

    So the new version of Daz messes up the old skins?
  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,653
    edited June 2017

    edit never mind I need to sell a project...

    Post edited by Bobvan on
  • Well... hmm. 

    Her face doesn't look as creepy or artificial as V7's did. And the items included with the bundle are pretty nice. I also like the idea of enhanced backwards compatability, though I really hope SickleYield releases some new ultra templates soon. 

    My only quibble is that... Daz, I also got the Victoria 5 pro bundle through the Carrarra Pro. Doesn't that count for the V8 discount? D:

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

    I tested it out on my new armor and seems to work pretty good !

    Damn, an armour i might buy; that looks great, just needs some wear and tear on it.

  • SorelSorel Posts: 1,412
    do I have to wait 6 months for Michael 8? :(
  • Twilight76Twilight76 Posts: 318

    I think this will help

    http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/software/dazstudio/4/new_features/start

    under Render Engine Updates

     

    Blantyr said:

     

    You can load UV skins from Genesis 3 into Genesis 8, but the don't come over true.  To the left, G8 loaded with Lorin's skin, to the right a pure Genesis 3 Lorin.  I liked this skin for its pinkish tone, but they seem to trying to ruin old skins.

     

    So the new version of Daz messes up the old skins?

     

  • Male-M3diaMale-M3dia Posts: 3,584
    edited June 2017
    Sorel said:
    do I have to wait 6 months for Michael 8? :(

    Please don't rush them wink. Let them build off of what they learn from V8.

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  • SorelSorel Posts: 1,412
    Sorel said:
    do I have to wait 6 months for Michael 8? :(

    Please don't rush them wink. Let them build off of what they learn from V8.

    True. I shall patiently wait then.
  • LlynaraLlynara Posts: 4,772

    Thanks for the replies! :) About my other question, is it possible to transfer a character morph for Genesis 3 to Genesis 8?

    I'm not seeing an easy way to bring them over. Trying to load a morph definitely doesn't work and they don't show up in the shaping sliders. Perhaps the changes are too big for that to be doable. There might be a way to use the morph transfer utility to do that. Haven't explored it yet. With the recent passing of the GenX2 creator, it might be a while before we can get the morphs over to V8, not sure. 

    I still think there's plenty of life left in Genesis 3. V8 just opens some new possibilities. We probably won't see a M8 till late fall if it follows the release pattern so far. 

  • Thanks for the reply! :) What's the morph transfer utility? 

    So there might be a way to transer the morphs later?  I hope so, I am quite fond of my Lara morph, and I don't know if I can recreate it for Gen 8. I have no rush to start using Gen 8 but soner or later there will be less new content for Gen 3 :(

  • AprilYSHAprilYSH Posts: 1,522

    Is anyone else having this issue with the Genesis 8 Base Female's eyes?

    The weird silver ring shows up when the light hits her eyes in a certain way. It's really odd and I don't know if it's just me (because of my custom shaders on her), or if it's an issues others are having.

    If your custom mats for her eyes were for G3, then yes you will see this ring.  The eye geometry has changed so you could use the same texture maps BUT require different mat settings, for example the Cornea and/or Sclera do NOT need transmaps anymore because the EyeMoisture and Cornea are on one geometry layer which you'd could try the iray water shader on.  Try the G8 mat settings and replace map by map instead of applying a G3 mat to get familiar with it :) 

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,209
    edited June 2017
    Llynara said:

    Thanks for the replies! :) About my other question, is it possible to transfer a character morph for Genesis 3 to Genesis 8?

    I'm not seeing an easy way to bring them over. Trying to load a morph definitely doesn't work and they don't show up in the shaping sliders. Perhaps the changes are too big for that to be doable. There might be a way to use the morph transfer utility to do that. Haven't explored it yet. With the recent passing of the GenX2 creator, it might be a while before we can get the morphs over to V8, not sure. 

    I still think there's plenty of life left in Genesis 3. V8 just opens some new possibilities. We probably won't see a M8 till late fall if it follows the release pattern so far. 

    I brought my OC JaguarElla over to G3F before GenX covered her by conforming a base figure mesh to the morphed figure to create a clone morph obj so it is doable just a lot of hiding exporting and importing mesh and doing ERC freezes and stuffs.

    Post edited by WendyLuvsCatz on
  • Thanks a lot guys i'm getting v8...anything else i should get? i'm tight on budget so won't spend again for few months so i want all essential things now to make  good characters...any other morphs i would need?

  • ImagoImago Posts: 5,681

    I see her IKs are too stiff on her arms... Very difficult make custom poses!

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,981
    AprilYSH said:

    Is anyone else having this issue with the Genesis 8 Base Female's eyes?

    The weird silver ring shows up when the light hits her eyes in a certain way. It's really odd and I don't know if it's just me (because of my custom shaders on her), or if it's an issues others are having.

    If your custom mats for her eyes were for G3, then yes you will see this ring.  The eye geometry has changed so you could use the same texture maps BUT require different mat settings, for example the Cornea and/or Sclera do NOT need transmaps anymore because the EyeMoisture and Cornea are on one geometry layer which you'd could try the iray water shader on.  Try the G8 mat settings and replace map by map instead of applying a G3 mat to get familiar with it :) 

    Thank you, April! I really appreciate the advice. :)

  • tombraider4evertombraider4ever Posts: 751
    edited June 2017
    th3Digit said:
    Llynara said:

    Thanks for the replies! :) About my other question, is it possible to transfer a character morph for Genesis 3 to Genesis 8?

    I'm not seeing an easy way to bring them over. Trying to load a morph definitely doesn't work and they don't show up in the shaping sliders. Perhaps the changes are too big for that to be doable. There might be a way to use the morph transfer utility to do that. Haven't explored it yet. With the recent passing of the GenX2 creator, it might be a while before we can get the morphs over to V8, not sure. 

    I still think there's plenty of life left in Genesis 3. V8 just opens some new possibilities. We probably won't see a M8 till late fall if it follows the release pattern so far. 

    I brought my OC JaguarElla over to G3F before GenX covered her by conforming a base figure mesh to the morphed figure to create a clone morph obj so it is doable just a lot of hiding exporting and importing mesh and doing ERC freezes and stuffs.

    That sounds very difficult, I'm a beginner at Daz so I would need detailed tutorial blush to do something like that. Genx is it a program to transfer morphs?  If so: is there a genx for transfer morphs from genesis 3 female to genesis 2 female? I have some genesis 2 clothes that don't autofit so well to genesis 3.

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  • RKane_1RKane_1 Posts: 3,039

    hey guys, i'm a new guy and just started using daz like 3-4 days ago. I want to know if i should get victoria 8 pro bundle or not. I made a thread and people recommened me to first get familiar with daz by working with free stuff before buying anything but i was still confused as many free stuff also require you to have morphs. So i just saw victoria 8 pro bundle and i read if i get victoria 8 pro bundle i will get victoria 5,6,7 pro bundle free and victoria 8 starter bundle and other things too for free. i think if i buy victoria 8 i won't need to buy again anytime soon.

    So what i want to know is if i right now just learn about daz and buy victoria like a month later will it still include other bundles or not and if i even get victoria 8 pro bundle will i still require other stuff to buy or it would be enough for now. thanks

    One thing to know is sales are time sensitive. If you are looking for thjings to do your art that are in the bundle and you can afford it, grab it now. If nothing particularly pleases you, just wait til the next sale. 

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,981

    Thanks a lot guys i'm getting v8...anything else i should get? i'm tight on budget so won't spend again for few months so i want all essential things now to make  good characters...any other morphs i would need?

    You might consider getting the face and body morphs for G8 if you have a budget for it.

  • HorusRaHorusRa Posts: 1,665
    edited August 2017

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  • RKane_1RKane_1 Posts: 3,039

    Thanks a lot guys i'm getting v8...anything else i should get? i'm tight on budget so won't spend again for few months so i want all essential things now to make  good characters...any other morphs i would need?

    You might consider getting the face and body morphs for G8 if you have a budget for it.

    I concur though the base model seems to come with some nice alternatives for the body out of the box but facial morphs and expression morphs are very much needed if you want to make characters look a little different.

  • JasonSWrenchJasonSWrench Posts: 386
    JazzyBear said:

    Alien fingers! Both male clones do this.

    Where do you find the male clones? I'm looking through everything and not finding anything. 

    Thanks!

    Jason

  • jakibluejakiblue Posts: 7,281

    Definitely without a doubt, get the Platinum Club membership. Go for the quarterly to start with as it's a bit less expensive than the yearly, but you'll be stoked when you see prices on stuff. You'll get extra discounts on the DAZ Originals, the weekly PC items are under $5 and you'll get two coupons each month - one to spend $6 on DO's, and one to get $6 off a total of $18 for PA stuff and DO's. 

    If you've already done that, get the Head Morphs and the Body Morphs for Genesis 8 female (which is free in your DAZ Studio). Genesis 8 Female base is hopeless without them. 

    Oh and welcome to the "I need that new shiny thing, but I'm tight on my budget so can't buy it...but I CAN eat baked beans for breakfast, lunch and dinner for the next two weeks, so I'll buy it anyway" club. :)

    Thanks a lot guys i'm getting v8...anything else i should get? i'm tight on budget so won't spend again for few months so i want all essential things now to make  good characters...any other morphs i would need?

     

  • GafftheHorseGafftheHorse Posts: 567
    bryanll1 said:

    Genesis 8?  So what about 4, 5, 6 & 7?

    Well, I know it's not a Windows Nein thing this time around - probably to avoid confusion over Generation 4 with Genesis 4 and Victoria 5, 6 and 7 with any future Genesis. From that point of view it seems sensible to break from any numerical similarity to avoid confusing the customer.

    Unfortunately, your question is usually the first ??? in  the customers mind...so confusion continues but in another direction.

    Something to be said for nice clean scientific version numbers, Marketing are getting more fickle all the time.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,209
    th3Digit said:
    Llynara said:

    Thanks for the replies! :) About my other question, is it possible to transfer a character morph for Genesis 3 to Genesis 8?

    I'm not seeing an easy way to bring them over. Trying to load a morph definitely doesn't work and they don't show up in the shaping sliders. Perhaps the changes are too big for that to be doable. There might be a way to use the morph transfer utility to do that. Haven't explored it yet. With the recent passing of the GenX2 creator, it might be a while before we can get the morphs over to V8, not sure. 

    I still think there's plenty of life left in Genesis 3. V8 just opens some new possibilities. We probably won't see a M8 till late fall if it follows the release pattern so far. 

    I brought my OC JaguarElla over to G3F before GenX covered her by conforming a base figure mesh to the morphed figure to create a clone morph obj so it is doable just a lot of hiding exporting and importing mesh and doing ERC freezes and stuffs.

    That sounds very difficult, I'm a beginner at Daz so I would need detailed tutorial blush to do something like that. Genx is it a program to transfer morphs?  If so: is there a genx for transfer morphs from genesis 3 female to genesis 2 female? I have some genesis 2 clothes that don't autofit so well to genesis 3.

    GenX indeed transfers morphs between generations but it's creator recently died so an update unlikely unless he partnered with someone.

    So unsure where we stand wirh someone creating a way to do it in a commercial automated script.

    They would need to write it from scratch not borrowing his unless next of kin gave permission.

    DAZ on the otherhand could inbuild the ability into DAZ studio  as they own the meshes rather than a plugin but whether they have a vested interest in making older products more recyclable is debatable.

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