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  • BeeMKayBeeMKay Posts: 7,019
    Uthgard said:

    Supposedly, the new version will include an option to decimate meshes, much as the current one includes an option to subdivide them. Yes, I'm hyped, can you tell?

    That sounds great! I really like VWD, but it's always tricky to stay within the limits.

  • unknownmystery445unknownmystery445 Posts: 414
    edited December 2016
    nicstt said:
    unknownmystery445 said:
    smaker1 said:
    unknownmystery445 said:
    smaker1 said:

    To compare with this standard fitting 

    Can you share how you did this step by step? :)

    I used GenX2. The principle is: you can use dynamic simulation to pose clothes on posed people but also morphed people. So I created a V4 shape for Gen3 Female with Genx2. You must do this only once.

    In DS4, I make an animation :

    - at frame 0: load Gen3 female zero pose, V4 shape applied, load the V4 clothe : NO fitting! The clothe must be in correct position

    - at frame 20: pose Gen3 female, zero the V4 shape , apply a gen3 character shape 

    Then make an animation simulation with correct parameters in VWD (that depends of the clothe) .

    It's the same process for Gen1, Gen2, Gen3. Remember: dynamic simu is a different world, the rigging doesnt't matter!

    Yes, another tool (GenX2) to buy but it's also an amazing tool to convert the best V4 characters I bought previously. There are certainly other ways to do it. 

     

    kaotkbliss said:
    AllenArt said:

    You need the program for Poser AND the Daz Studio bridge to use in Daz Studio. The plugin for Poser is standalone in that it works independently of Poser but is made primarly as a plugin for it. When you add the DS bridge, it runs independently with the DS bridge for DS. You don't need Poser to run it.

    Laurie

    So in order to use this at all you either need Poser (to use in poser) or the Daz bridge (to use in DS) but not both? Apparently the same is true for the VDW demo I guess since I can't do anything with it to try it out since I neither have Poser or the Daz bridge :(

    VWD is an external application, the launching script from Poser is sold with VWD. Phil developped the bridge to launch VWD from Carrara or DS4. The bridge is "invisible" after you locate the VWD folder.  So yes to use the demo you must have Poser or invest in the bridge (like there are no demo of the bridge). There are no difference in VWD either you are coming from Poser, DS4, Carrara. 

    By the way how do you install VWD? Is it like how you manually install let's say clothes items to the daz 3D library?

    There is a PDF included which explains where to install; it recommends c drive. The image shows the pdf, and the path I've installed it too. The second image the path and the VWD .dll at the bottom of the image; it needs to go in either/or both depending if you use only beta, or never use beta, or only non-beta; the image shows in Studio's beta version.

     

     

    I read the pdf already but I just don't understand where I should install the plugin. It says, install it to daz studio install directory, I don't know where it is. Can you help me?

    Post edited by unknownmystery445 on
  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,175

    The Daz install directory is in Program Files x86 if you're using the 32 bit version or Program Files if you're using the 64 bit version. You need to install VWD inside the Daz folder in Program Files x86 or Program Files.

  • RCDescheneRCDeschene Posts: 2,816
    AllenArt said:

    The Daz install directory is in Program Files x86 if you're using the 32 bit version or Program Files if you're using the 64 bit version. You need to install VWD inside the Daz folder in Program Files x86 or Program Files.

    What if you're using a customized folder on an external hard drive?

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 107,895
    RCDeschene said:
    AllenArt said:

    The Daz install directory is in Program Files x86 if you're using the 32 bit version or Program Files if you're using the 64 bit version. You need to install VWD inside the Daz folder in Program Files x86 or Program Files.

    What if you're using a customized folder on an external hard drive?

    The Install Directory is the folder with the DazStudio.exe (or DazStudio.app for Macs) in it.

  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500
    RCDeschene said:
    AllenArt said:

    The Daz install directory is in Program Files x86 if you're using the 32 bit version or Program Files if you're using the 64 bit version. You need to install VWD inside the Daz folder in Program Files x86 or Program Files.

    What if you're using a customized folder on an external hard drive?

    I think I am doing what most do with external or additional hard drives: I just use them for data folders (for example, the runtime or content library). I don't use them for program files or system files.

    By the way, isn't VWD a Windows only application? No Mac version?

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,175
    edited December 2016
    RCDeschene said:
    AllenArt said:

    The Daz install directory is in Program Files x86 if you're using the 32 bit version or Program Files if you're using the 64 bit version. You need to install VWD inside the Daz folder in Program Files x86 or Program Files.

    What if you're using a customized folder on an external hard drive?

    The Daz install directory is where the Daz Studio program (the .exe) is installed, not where the content is installed.

    Laurie

    Post edited by AllenArt on
  • BarzoffBarzoff Posts: 104
    marble said:
    RCDeschene said:
    AllenArt said:

    By the way, isn't VWD a Windows only application? No Mac version?

     

    I just downloaded the free demo version and there is an exe file, so yes, it is a Windows only application.

  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500
    Barzoff said:
    marble said:
    RCDeschene said:
    AllenArt said:

    By the way, isn't VWD a Windows only application? No Mac version?

     

    I just downloaded the free demo version and there is an exe file, so yes, it is a Windows only application.

    Lol, this forum's quoting system sucks, doesn't it? :)

  • kaotkblisskaotkbliss Posts: 2,914
    3dOutlaw said:

    I made a quick video on YouTube just now on how fast it is for a simple setup, to fix conforming clothing from looking so rigid in a pose.

    If I may, what processor you got in your pc?

    I just picked up VWD (yay!) but the draping really crawls on my 3.2ghz triple core cpu

  • BarzoffBarzoff Posts: 104
    edited December 2016
    marble said:
    Barzoff said:
    marble said:
    RCDeschene said:
    AllenArt said:

    By the way, isn't VWD a Windows only application? No Mac version?

     

    I just downloaded the free demo version and there is an exe file, so yes, it is a Windows only application.

    Lol, this forum's quoting system sucks, doesn't it? :)

    Yeah, I tried this for the very first time. After all, I'm just a six post guy.

    Now, seven.laugh

    Post edited by Barzoff on
  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,014

    if only D|S or other DAZ software had Alembic abc file import, most Genesis 3 stuff works well in iClone with PhysX and its weightmaps to pin, UV mapping and one material zone on draped bits important, no hems, trims, I delete those in D|S with the geometry editing tool before export, yes you need colision proxy shapes on figures/avatars but I have gotten the result into Octane standalone animated I just cannot figure out how to export the material zones to retexture it!

    I have the DAZ Alembic exporter for D|S but there is no importer.

  • unknownmystery445unknownmystery445 Posts: 414
    AllenArt said:
    RCDeschene said:
    AllenArt said:

    The Daz install directory is in Program Files x86 if you're using the 32 bit version or Program Files if you're using the 64 bit version. You need to install VWD inside the Daz folder in Program Files x86 or Program Files.

    What if you're using a customized folder on an external hard drive?

    The Daz install directory is where the Daz Studio program (the .exe) is installed, not where the content is installed.

    Laurie

    Can you kindly post a vid bec I don't want to mess up the program if I put it in a wrong place. 

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,175
    edited December 2016

    I don't have the capability to make videos, sorry. The above is as self-explanatory as I am able to make it.

    Laurie

    Post edited by AllenArt on
  • kaotkblisskaotkbliss Posts: 2,914

    From the bridge - the VWDSupport.dll goes here C:\Program Files\DAZ 3D\DAZStudio4\plugins

    (Unless you installed DS in a different location, this is the default location)

    The VWD Bridge folder and everything in it goes here [Drive letter]\[your Daz3D Library]\Scripts

    The VWD zip (VWDClothAndHair+V1.0.408.2976_193109.zip) I simply created a folder on C:\ called VWD and extracted the zip into that folder.

     

    Then when you are in DS, go to Window -> Panes(Tabs) ->Script IDE

    A tab will pop up in DS (Dock it wherever you like)

    Open that tab and go to File -> Open Script and open the VWDPython.dse script (You may need to navigate to your scripts folder where you placed the VWD Bridge folder)

    Then click on File -> Run or the green Execute button

     

    The script will then have you navigate to the VWD exe file that will be in C:\VWD and that's it. All done

  • unknownmystery445unknownmystery445 Posts: 414
    AllenArt said:
    RCDeschene said:
    AllenArt said:

     

    kaotkbliss said:

    From the bridge - the VWDSupport.dll goes here C:\Program Files\DAZ 3D\DAZStudio4\plugins

    (Unless you installed DS in a different location, this is the default location)

    The VWD Bridge folder and everything in it goes here [Drive letter]\[your Daz3D Library]\Scripts

    The VWD zip (VWDClothAndHair+V1.0.408.2976_193109.zip) I simply created a folder on C:\ called VWD and extracted the zip into that folder.

     

    Then when you are in DS, go to Window -> Panes(Tabs) ->Script IDE

    A tab will pop up in DS (Dock it wherever you like)

    Open that tab and go to File -> Open Script and open the VWDPython.dse script (You may need to navigate to your scripts folder where you placed the VWD Bridge folder)

    Then click on File -> Run or the green Execute button

     

    The script will then have you navigate to the VWD exe file that will be in C:\VWD and that's it. All done

    Is "your daz 3D library" my daz 3D library in putting the bridge?

  • unknownmystery445unknownmystery445 Posts: 414
    3dOutlaw said:

    I made a quick video on YouTube just now on how fast it is for a simple setup, to fix conforming clothing from looking so rigid in a pose.

    You just need VWD and the Daz Bridge (and Python if you dont have it already from Blender, Poser or a bunch of other stuff that may have already installed it...poke around, you may have it already)

    When I open the program the scene doesn't load like I'm don't see anything in the VWD cloth window.

  • kaotkblisskaotkbliss Posts: 2,914
    unknownmystery445 said:

    Is "your daz 3D library" my daz 3D library in putting the bridge?

    kaotkbliss said:

     

    Yes

    When you run the script in Daz to open VWD, then after VWD opens click the Host List button to load all the items from Daz into VWD

  • unknownmystery445unknownmystery445 Posts: 414
    kaotkbliss said:
    unknownmystery445 said:

    Is "your daz 3D library" my daz 3D library in putting the bridge?

    kaotkbliss said:

     

    Yes

    When you run the script in Daz to open VWD, then after VWD opens click the Host List button to load all the items from Daz into VWD

    Alright I'll try it later, by the just to be sure the script and runtime of VWD goes in my daz 3D library right?

  • kaotkblisskaotkbliss Posts: 2,914

    There are 2 zips for this product if you want to use with DS

    Studio_Bridge_2_VWD_Cloth_Hair_194386.zip

    and

    VWDClothAndHair+V1.0.408.2976_193109.zip

     

    The first zip is the VWD Bridge for Daz Studio. The dll goes in your plugins folder. If Daz was installed to the default location then it's C:\Program Files\DAZ 3D\DAZStudio4\plugins

    Inside the scripts folder is a VWD Bridge folder. This goes into your scripts folder which mine is located here I:\Daz3D Library\Scripts

     

    Then there is the actual VWD program. The entire Zip gets extracted to C:\VWD

    And that's it, you are done.

  • TooncesToonces Posts: 919

    Has anyone been able to get G2 or earlier hairs working with VWD? They don't appear in my Host List (I only see G3 hairs).

    Also, is there a way to get a VWD'd object selectable as 'cloth' again? The cloth button is dithered for me.

    Thanks!

  • SickleYieldSickleYield Posts: 7,649
    havsm said:

    Has anyone been able to get G2 or earlier hairs working with VWD? They don't appear in my Host List (I only see G3 hairs).

    Also, is there a way to get a VWD'd object selectable as 'cloth' again? The cloth button is dithered for me.

    Thanks!

    Sure, I've used a lot of G1 hair with it.  Make sure they're not parented to the figure before you start VWD.  It can't add things to the host list that are a child of a figure for some reason.  I move the hair to the right position, parent to the head, pose the figure, then unparent the hair just before I start VWD.

  • TooncesToonces Posts: 919

    Thanks!

    BTW, I get the same errors as you when using high poly clothing for G3. Thanks to another comment on this thread, I was able to use decimator to avoid the error. Not an ideal solution, but it worked for me.

    I wonder why the memory limits of VWD are so low when there is plenty of free memory in the system itself. Hopefully next version will fix that.

  • SickleYieldSickleYield Posts: 7,649
    havsm said:

    Thanks!

    BTW, I get the same errors as you when using high poly clothing for G3. Thanks to another comment on this thread, I was able to use decimator to avoid the error. Not an ideal solution, but it worked for me.

    I wonder why the memory limits of VWD are so low when there is plenty of free memory in the system itself. Hopefully next version will fix that.

    Someone just suggested that on my YouTube!  I suggested it in another thread and got complaints about the cost. XD  But it does work and I can use all my G3 goodies with it now, so that's awesome. :)

    I also hope for better optimization in the next version.  It's a very powerful program.

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,970

    I don't buy 3D content anywhere but here and at Adam Thwaite's site, so I hope that one of the Daz PAs comes out with a product comparable to VWD. I would so buy that! 

  • SickleYieldSickleYield Posts: 7,649
    divamakeup said:

    I don't buy 3D content anywhere but here and at Adam Thwaite's site, so I hope that one of the Daz PAs comes out with a product comparable to VWD. I would so buy that! 

    Oh, I think we all would.

  • IceDragonArtIceDragonArt Posts: 12,736

    Wishlisted those two particular items....

  • unknownmystery445unknownmystery445 Posts: 414
    Ice Dragon Art said:

    Wishlisted those two particular items....

    Are there 2 items that are like VWD?

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    unknownmystery445 said:
    Ice Dragon Art said:

    Wishlisted those two particular items....

    Are there 2 items that are like VWD?

    There's nothing like VWD currently; The product available from here is very limited; still on rare occasions useful though.

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    unknownmystery445 said:
    nicstt said:
    unknownmystery445 said:
    smaker1 said:
    unknownmystery445 said:
    smaker1 said:

    To compare with this standard fitting 

    Can you share how you did this step by step? :)

    I used GenX2. The principle is: you can use dynamic simulation to pose clothes on posed people but also morphed people. So I created a V4 shape for Gen3 Female with Genx2. You must do this only once.

    In DS4, I make an animation :

    - at frame 0: load Gen3 female zero pose, V4 shape applied, load the V4 clothe : NO fitting! The clothe must be in correct position

    - at frame 20: pose Gen3 female, zero the V4 shape , apply a gen3 character shape 

    Then make an animation simulation with correct parameters in VWD (that depends of the clothe) .

    It's the same process for Gen1, Gen2, Gen3. Remember: dynamic simu is a different world, the rigging doesnt't matter!

    Yes, another tool (GenX2) to buy but it's also an amazing tool to convert the best V4 characters I bought previously. There are certainly other ways to do it. 

     

    kaotkbliss said:
    AllenArt said:

    You need the program for Poser AND the Daz Studio bridge to use in Daz Studio. The plugin for Poser is standalone in that it works independently of Poser but is made primarly as a plugin for it. When you add the DS bridge, it runs independently with the DS bridge for DS. You don't need Poser to run it.

    Laurie

    So in order to use this at all you either need Poser (to use in poser) or the Daz bridge (to use in DS) but not both? Apparently the same is true for the VDW demo I guess since I can't do anything with it to try it out since I neither have Poser or the Daz bridge :(

    VWD is an external application, the launching script from Poser is sold with VWD. Phil developped the bridge to launch VWD from Carrara or DS4. The bridge is "invisible" after you locate the VWD folder.  So yes to use the demo you must have Poser or invest in the bridge (like there are no demo of the bridge). There are no difference in VWD either you are coming from Poser, DS4, Carrara. 

    By the way how do you install VWD? Is it like how you manually install let's say clothes items to the daz 3D library?

    There is a PDF included which explains where to install; it recommends c drive. The image shows the pdf, and the path I've installed it too. The second image the path and the VWD .dll at the bottom of the image; it needs to go in either/or both depending if you use only beta, or never use beta, or only non-beta; the image shows in Studio's beta version.

     

     

    I read the pdf already but I just don't understand where I should install the plugin. It says, install it to daz studio install directory, I don't know where it is. Can you help me?

    It's best to install VWD on the c drive. Like so: C:\VWD, within that is where the runtime goes.

     

     

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