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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,094
    edited November 2016
    Rottenham said:

    OK then.  I've reread this thread.  The Growing Up kids have been mentioned a number of times.  One comment said they didn't look realistic enough.  I find this to be an unusual remark to be made in a place where "what sells" is an 18 year old girl with a 44DDDD chest.  That said, "realism" is highly overrated.

    My original question about clothes was directed at fit, not style and fashion.  Certainly we are missing beanies with propellers on the top.  Now, I am wondering to what degree Autofit is able to adapt to a 16YO figure size.  I assumed it could not.  Now I am thinking I may have been wrong.  If Autofit can do the job, then there are plenty of clothes.  And the price of Growing Up is affordable.  We have ample supplies of hooded sweatshirts, expensive sneakers and cell phones.  Since I live near a school, I can keep an eye on what they wear.

    • Does Autofit get the job done when working with a Growing Up G3?  I would appreciate your comments.

    Of course, Visuimag's little children are excellent.  I can't help but wonder how they were created.

    FWIW, Taoism suggested that the roles of artist and merchant are somewhat antithetical.  From what I've seen, there is something to this.  Every artist I've known who asks, "What do people want?" becomes less of an artist.  If you are thinking "Do you expect me to starve to death?!" the answer is no.  But there is a middle ground.

     

    ...the G2F little girl version of my Leela character riding the Big Wheel  which I posted earleir uses the Saucee 2 Overalls for G2F and they fit very well.

    Here's a 10 year old G3F wearing them.

     

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  • laststand6522732laststand6522732 Posts: 866
    edited November 2016
    kyoto kid said:

    ...the little girl version of my Leela character riding the Big Wheel uses the Saucee 2 Overalls for G2F and they fit very well.

    Here's a 10 year old wearing them.

    Thank you.  At the beginning of this thread I had the impression that child characters almost didn't exist.  As the thread progressed I saw it was possible to do a very nice job with children after all.  As you have done.  Lately when I show people my characters they say, are you going to make children?  I hadn't originally intended it, but children can lend an air of believability to a story sometimes.

    I'm reading what I can find about weight mapping now.  I think it is going to come in handy with clothing.  I have great hopes for the coming year!

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,094
    edited November 2016

    ...thank you.  For the story I am working on having good child and teen characters that look proper for their age is esential.

    As I mentioned I have been working at creating younger characters since the Gen4 days.  A lot of that research I did back then still applies today as I often make additional adjustments to proportions even when using Genesis and tools like the Growing Up morphs. Getting the proper facial structure and head proportion is critical and involves a lot of extra shaping and morphing  When I get what I like, I save a base character preset for future use.

    I also have a number of body and head morph developer kits for G2, but only couple for G3 as finances have been tight as of late.  

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  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,322

    Upon the whole, I think that Zev0's Growing up morphs produce a more plausible child than the K4 base. But then Genesis is a LOT more morph-friendly than any gen4 figure ever was. Plus you can fine tool most of the deatils yourself. 

    Children are doable. It's babies that are a challenge.

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,095

    Inspired to work on this from Genesis Baby

     

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  • backgroundbackground Posts: 640

    I find Zev0's growing up morphs really good. For small children I thicken up the body and limbs. This figure is made from G3F with mainly growing up morphs, and the head made with Facegen Pro. The clothes are from the 'Little Ones' set. I need to work on the shirt as the lines have got mangled.

    Cheers

    Ian

     

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,812
    background said:

    I find Zev0's growing up morphs really good. For small children I thicken up the body and limbs. This figure is made from G3F with mainly growing up morphs, and the head made with Facegen Pro. The clothes are from the 'Little Ones' set. I need to work on the shirt as the lines have got mangled.

    Cheers

    Ian

     

    That a good set of morphs you've applied.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,094
    edited November 2016
    background said:

    I find Zev0's growing up morphs really good. For small children I thicken up the body and limbs. This figure is made from G3F with mainly growing up morphs, and the head made with Facegen Pro. The clothes are from the 'Little Ones' set. I need to work on the shirt as the lines have got mangled.

    Cheers

    Ian

     

    ...that's really good.

    The only botherome part is the distortion in the texture of the shirt which cannot be helped. I really wish there was some way to deal with those types of issues.  Maybe we need Wear Them All fixes for Growing Up.

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  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,123
    edited November 2016

    I meant to finish & release the Growing Up addon support for Fit Control. Will get to that when I have the time. I have such a long list of things to finish:(

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  • ZyloxZylox Posts: 787
    Zev0 said:

    I meant to finish & release the Growing Up addon support for Fit Control. Will get to that when I have the time. I have such a long list of things to finish:(

    Thank you, that will be a big help. I am off to put Fit Control on my wishlist...

  • Silent WinterSilent Winter Posts: 3,910
    Zev0 said:

    I meant to finish & release the Growing Up addon support for Fit Control. Will get to that when I have the time. I have such a long list of things to finish:(

    That'd be awesome - I just picked up the G3F Wear Them All and Fit Control items - they work great :)  I got Growing Up Bundle too - Fit Control helps already but if it could be improved, I'm all for it (when you find the magic time-stretcher of course ;) )
    (Planning to pick up the G3M versions of WTA and FC soon, Aging morphs, most of the rest of your store is on the wishlist too ;) )

    Your sets really expand the usefulness of the figures :)

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,094
    Zev0 said:

    I meant to finish & release the Growing Up addon support for Fit Control. Will get to that when I have the time. I have such a long list of things to finish:(

    ..no worry, really waiting on Skin Builder Pro 3 right now.

  • backgroundbackground Posts: 640

    Thanks for the comments guys. I've sorted out the shirt a bit and made him a bit older, maybe three or four, and trimmed his hair. Not sure if he's a bit overweight though. By the way the reason I am using G3F as the base figure is that Facegen creates its face texture on the figures base texture, and modifies the other skin textures to match ( or nearly match ) , and starting with G3M texture seems to make an older looking skin.

    Picture below is of the two boys for comparison.

    Zev0 good news on the Fit Control add on. I'm sure I will buy it on day one. I've always found your products very good quality and use them all the time.

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  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,123
    edited November 2016

    "By the way the reason I am using G3F as the base figure is that Facegen creates its face texture on the figures base texture, and modifies the other skin textures to match"

    That's why I like facegen.

    "Zev0 good news on the Fit Control add on. I'm sure I will buy it on day one. I've always found your products very good quality and use them all the time."

    Thanks. And it's a free update:)

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  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,623
    background said:

    Thanks for the comments guys. I've sorted out the shirt a bit and made him a bit older, maybe three or four, and trimmed his hair. Not sure if he's a bit overweight though. By the way the reason I am using G3F as the base figure is that Facegen creates its face texture on the figures base texture, and modifies the other skin textures to match ( or nearly match ) , and starting with G3M texture seems to make an older looking skin.

    Picture below is of the two boys for comparison.

    Zev0 good news on the Fit Control add on. I'm sure I will buy it on day one. I've always found your products very good quality and use them all the time.

    If you had Slosh's Genesis 3 UV swapper you could put the created skin onto G3M. Using the male mesh should reduce the distortion of the clothing in the chest area.

  • VisuimagVisuimag Posts: 578
    edited December 2016
    Zev0 said:

    I meant to finish & release the Growing Up addon support for Fit Control. Will get to that when I have the time. I have such a long list of things to finish:(

    Do what you can! You're contributions are, without a doubt, some of my favorites since joining this community 3 years ago!

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