Runtime DNA Merges With Daz 3D

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  • SpitSpit Posts: 2,342
    CypherFOX said:

    Greetings,

    I'm especially curious about RTEncoded stuff like Melody, which I've always wished could be easier to install...  I don't have a large number of purchases from RuntimeDNA, but amusingly about half of them are from when Aeon Soul left there...for here. O_o¡  Those'll be particularly interesting to see show up, if they do.

    I do also have Melody for A3, and Capsces fox and wolf for her...and if I could get anything converted over so it was easier to install and work, it'd be those two items.  It makes for an EXCELLENT 'toon-ish fox!

    --  Morgan

    They have a lot of Poser-only products that (would) work okay in Studio except for Inject PMD. The little utility we used to use in Studio 3 doesn't work in4+

     

    Eek battery light just went on on my keyboard. Hope I have some fresh ones.

     

  • Not that happy. If you merge two shops, you won't get a bigger shop. No, you'll loose one shop.

  • lx_2807502lx_2807502 Posts: 2,996
    CypherFOX said:

    I don't have a large number of purchases from RuntimeDNA, but amusingly about half of them are from when Aeon Soul left there...for here. O_o¡  Those'll be particularly interesting to see show up, if they do.n

     

    Ugh yes I want the missing items from the Aeon Soul catalogue to return!

  • RenomistaRenomista Posts: 921
    edited February 2016
    Havos said:
    Havos said:

    True, which is why I said a step closer. In terms of new releases ContentParadise is pretty minor, so really Rendo, and to a lesser extent Hivewire, remains the only meaningful alternate stores.

    Next conquer...Render...otica.

    Only after marriage and with lights out... ;-P

    Post edited by Renomista on
  • will we be able to use or PC+ Monthly Coupons over there or still only use them here?

    I would assume they are only usable here, but given content is said to be migrating over here you should have items to use it on as that happens :)

    Edited to clarify.

    thanks Jack doesn't really bother me if only for here always plenty here for me to choose from here to use my coupons on just thought I'd ask on behalf of other PC+ members

  • lx said:
    CypherFOX said:

    I don't have a large number of purchases from RuntimeDNA, but amusingly about half of them are from when Aeon Soul left there...for here. O_o¡  Those'll be particularly interesting to see show up, if they do.n

     

    Ugh yes I want the missing items from the Aeon Soul catalogue to return!

    Aeon Soul has stated that the products removed from RDNA will no longer have support or be sold- they want to concentrate on the new versions of the figures, not the old.  Don't think that's going to happen.

  • KeryaKerya Posts: 10,943
    lx said:
    CypherFOX said:

    I don't have a large number of purchases from RuntimeDNA, but amusingly about half of them are from when Aeon Soul left there...for here. O_o¡  Those'll be particularly interesting to see show up, if they do.n

     

    Ugh yes I want the missing items from the Aeon Soul catalogue to return!

    Aeon Soul has stated that the products removed from RDNA will no longer have support or be sold- they want to concentrate on the new versions of the figures, not the old.  Don't think that's going to happen.

    I doubt it too - things that went missing when they moved from Rero to RDNA stayed missing ...

  • I have alot of RDNA products I would like to see new teradome with daz support. It would be nice to see my products at rdna as smart content.

  • Rumor has it that Aeon Soul is contemplating a new character along the lines of their V4 Alice, but for Genesis 3 Female.

  • lx said:
    CypherFOX said:

    I don't have a large number of purchases from RuntimeDNA, but amusingly about half of them are from when Aeon Soul left there...for here. O_o¡  Those'll be particularly interesting to see show up, if they do.n

     

    Ugh yes I want the missing items from the Aeon Soul catalogue to return!

    Aeon Soul has stated that the products removed from RDNA will no longer have support or be sold- they want to concentrate on the new versions of the figures, not the old.  Don't think that's going to happen.

    Part me has wondered why they don't just release the really old stuff as either freebies or even donationware on a place like Gumroad, but then I remembered that I often delete my older artwork when I've moved on from something (mostly fandoms) and would rather focus on moving forward, so I don't blame them there.

    Still, if this means I can properly install some of the stuff I bought from them on RDNA via DIM or Daz Connect, I'll be happy.

  • N-RArtsN-RArts Posts: 1,603

    I've only purchased a few things from RDNA in the past. 

    I don't know how to feel about the merger. The first thing I thought about was encryption being added to their products. 

    The only way to dominate the market is to either assimilate or run other businesses into the ground. 

     

    Either way, welcome to Daz, RDNA. :)

  • lx_2807502lx_2807502 Posts: 2,996
    lx said:
    CypherFOX said:

    I don't have a large number of purchases from RuntimeDNA, but amusingly about half of them are from when Aeon Soul left there...for here. O_o¡  Those'll be particularly interesting to see show up, if they do.n

     

    Ugh yes I want the missing items from the Aeon Soul catalogue to return!

    Aeon Soul has stated that the products removed from RDNA will no longer have support or be sold- they want to concentrate on the new versions of the figures, not the old.  Don't think that's going to happen.

    I figured but I think it's still worth stating that some customers are interested in some of those older items. I'm a huge fan of their mix and match multilayer type outfits. That said pretty much everything they make is really high quality and released here now so new stuff is great too.

  • lx said:
    lx said:
    CypherFOX said:

    I don't have a large number of purchases from RuntimeDNA, but amusingly about half of them are from when Aeon Soul left there...for here. O_o¡  Those'll be particularly interesting to see show up, if they do.n

     

    Ugh yes I want the missing items from the Aeon Soul catalogue to return!

    Aeon Soul has stated that the products removed from RDNA will no longer have support or be sold- they want to concentrate on the new versions of the figures, not the old.  Don't think that's going to happen.

    I figured but I think it's still worth stating that some customers are interested in some of those older items. I'm a huge fan of their mix and match multilayer type outfits. That said pretty much everything they make is really high quality and released here now so new stuff is great too.

    Aeon Soul has done the whole dropping products and moving on before. Believe me, there's a huge list of their history I'd love to buy. I'm glad I have the outfits I do, since they'll likely never be available to purchase ever again.

  • ShemeiShemei Posts: 21

    Since DAZ is not going to be able to sell those Aeon Soul products will we still be able to download them here?  Probably half of my RDNA catalog is stuff created by Aeon Soul and I hope they will be available for download instead of having to depend on backups. 

  • Shemei said:

    Since DAZ is not going to be able to sell those Aeon Soul products will we still be able to download them here?  Probably half of my RDNA catalog is stuff created by Aeon Soul and I hope they will be available for download instead of having to depend on backups. 

    If they're in your RDNA purchase history, they'll be migrated to your library here.

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,084

    Regarding 'dark themes'... Daz store has LOADS of fairly dark stuff.

    Consider:

    http://www.daz3d.com/jane-d-o-a

    http://www.daz3d.com/severed-man

    http://www.daz3d.com/zombie-walker

    http://www.daz3d.com/terror-eyes-for-genesis-2

    Plus lots of demons, werewolves, distorted aliens, plantmen, ratpeople, all sorts of wacky stuff.

     

  • lx_2807502lx_2807502 Posts: 2,996

    Regarding 'dark themes'... Daz store has LOADS of fairly dark stuff.

    Consider:

    http://www.daz3d.com/jane-d-o-a

    http://www.daz3d.com/severed-man

    http://www.daz3d.com/zombie-walker

    http://www.daz3d.com/terror-eyes-for-genesis-2

    Plus lots of demons, werewolves, distorted aliens, plantmen, ratpeople, all sorts of wacky stuff.

     

    Yeah I found this whole talk of "dark themes" confusing too. I mean Daz doesn't like to use certain words or allow nudity in promos but there's no shortage of creepy horror evil figures or ridiculously skimpy outfits for Victoria

    and then there's http://www.daz3d.com/taurette-for-genesis-2-female-hd

    RawArt is unrivalled in so many ways.

  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,573
    lx said:

    Regarding 'dark themes'... Daz store has LOADS of fairly dark stuff.

    Consider:

    http://www.daz3d.com/jane-d-o-a

    http://www.daz3d.com/severed-man

    http://www.daz3d.com/zombie-walker

    http://www.daz3d.com/terror-eyes-for-genesis-2

    Plus lots of demons, werewolves, distorted aliens, plantmen, ratpeople, all sorts of wacky stuff.

     

    Yeah I found this whole talk of "dark themes" confusing too. I mean Daz doesn't like to use certain words or allow nudity in promos but there's no shortage of creepy horror evil figures or ridiculously skimpy outfits for Victoria

    and then there's http://www.daz3d.com/taurette-for-genesis-2-female-hd

    RawArt is unrivalled in so many ways.

    I agree, plenty of stuff on the dark side here, look at http://www.daz3d.com/severed-man, the promos don't come much more horror themed than these

  • rsnrsn Posts: 42

    This is TERRIBLE news. RDNA has its own flavor and the products on that site are VERY different from DAZ products. There is a lot of Poser stuff, especially in the way of unique props, environments and clothing and characters for M4/V4. That store has a totally different feel, the deals are much more affordable and nicely presented so that you know what's going on...I don't understand the point of merging two very distinct stores. Why are you doing this?

    A huge problem I have with DAZ is the lack of notifications. With RDNA, Renderosity and other sites, I can choose to be notified by email whenever one of the items on my wish list goes on sale, for any kind of price drop. With DAZ, products are so expensive that I'm only able to buy them once or twice a year, and on top of that, they offer NO way of finding out when sales are on (aside from manually checking your wish list every single day, which is absurd). I was only able to buy RDNA's incredible Terradome products because I received an email during their pre-holiday sale that told me all of those items were available at a discount. I practically bought the whole Terradome store that day. With DAZ, I've contacted vendors to ask when things might be going on sale only to be told I just missed one - yet how was I supposed to know when I don't have time to sit there and scroll through my wish list every 24 hours?

    DAZ has also completely forsaken Poser and generation 4 at this point, which is disappointing. A lot of the environments and props on here are still great for me but I don't use Genesis, which means that most of the clothing, characters and hair on this site these days are not for me. RDNA was the opposite and having it be its own site made it much easier to look through the options there that were applicable to my renders.

    This whole thing is just depressing. Granted, I don't know the politics behind the choice, if RDNA was experiencing financial difficulties, etc. but on the surface it seems totally unnecessary and counterproductive to merge these two very different marketplaces.

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,084

    In the last month I think I've bought maybe 1/3 of Raw's catalog. ;)

     

  • larsmidnattlarsmidnatt Posts: 4,511
    edited February 2016

    Not that happy. If you merge two shops, you won't get a bigger shop. No, you'll loose one shop.

    Exactly. Good for business I am sure. And I don't hate them for it. RNDA tends to have more interesting products than here at Daz.

    But Daz is a very sterile convervative draconian site, and RDNA was always very expressive, creative and artistic.  To people who say daz has dark themes, I think you are missing a lot. It's not about indivudual crummy products, it's the entire feel and support for themes in a genuine way. RNDA had some great lines on their site. RNDA was never scared of embracing ART, Daz still is :/

    I do wish them luck on the merger. But I really can't find it in me to actively support Daz or any of their partners anymore. If I can't be expressive on an "art" site/forum and only expected to be a dumb consumer, there is no way I can really invest in that treatment. Even if some of the partners are some of my most cherished and respected artists in this niche.

    I still render here and there, still have a few years left in my plat membership. I'll be around. Maybe I'll be tempted by something unique, brave and exciting :)

    Post edited by larsmidnatt on
  • AtiAti Posts: 9,182

    My biggest concern with buying items elsewhere has always been the inability to keep track of the stuff I have. I buy something, and in a year I won't even remember having it. Even though RDNA has items that are of interest to me. With this merge, if everything will be available at one place, I'm surely going to buy RDNA items, that I would not have bought otherwise.

  • kaotkblisskaotkbliss Posts: 2,914

    Does anyone know when items will start showing up at Daz?

     

    When the final Aeon Soul sale hit, I spent more than I should getting as much AS out of my wishlist as possible :) Didn't quite get everything though :(

    Love RDNA's clown set (Thr3e, 4our, Killjoy, etc.)

  • I'm a little late in hearing about this.  I have to say I was shocked to go over to Runtime and find out that Deep Freeze was already seems to be gone!  I had several things waiting in my wishlist and now I guess I won't be getting them.  I'll be reserving judgement to see how everything else plays out as the stores work through the merger process.

  • GreybroGreybro Posts: 2,599

    I am dumbfounded.

    I hope it works well for all parties involved.

    But I still remember Poser-Pros.

    I'm glad they didn't delete this post because it expresses my sentiments exactly. I'm a user and buying customer of both sites. I hope RDNA doesn't get the PPros treatment. I really enjoyed that site's forum and store.

  • Greybro said:

    I am dumbfounded.

    I hope it works well for all parties involved.

    But I still remember Poser-Pros.

    I'm glad they didn't delete this post because it expresses my sentiments exactly. I'm a user and buying customer of both sites. I hope RDNA doesn't get the PPros treatment. I really enjoyed that site's forum and store.

    Daz bought PoserPros in 2005. PoserPros stayed open till 2008 when the store was sort of migrated to ArtZone. From what I can tell the forums and galleries were around in archive form till 2010. Yet I keep seeing this reaction like PPros was shut down overnight or something.

  • JennKJennK Posts: 834

    It is quite possible that we end up with the best of both worlds. I am going to be cautiously optomistic on this one, it might come back to bite me in butt later but hey I could stand to lose some wink

  • KhoryKhory Posts: 3,854

    And just how many years ago was this Poser pros thing? 7 or so yes? And the people who owned and ran Daz were totaly different people yes? The store here has been totaly revamped since then as well so it isn't even the same store tech. How can something that happend that long ago involving people no longer here and a totaly different store system be relivant? Its like saying "oh well my old grocery store rang everything up by hand and made mistakes so now that this new grocery has started selling the products I bought there I expect to see all sorts of hand rung errors". Even though the new store rings everything up with a scanner.

  • Khory said:

    And just how many years ago was this Poser pros thing? 7 or so yes? And the people who owned and ran Daz were totaly different people yes? The store here has been totaly revamped since then as well so it isn't even the same store tech. How can something that happend that long ago involving people no longer here and a totaly different store system be relivant? Its like saying "oh well my old grocery store rang everything up by hand and made mistakes so now that this new grocery has started selling the products I bought there I expect to see all sorts of hand rung errors". Even though the new store rings everything up with a scanner.

    I don't get it either. I keep seeing stuff about a 'history' of Daz shutting down sites, and one site in all these years does not count as a 'history'. Nor was it 'shut down' the way I keep seeing posts imply.

  • I'm not really thrilled with it either, and not because of the store. RuntimeDNA forums provided a pretty good place to talk without big brother and now that they're merged, I feel like our landscape has gone from a sprawling ecosystem to penned enclosure. I don't really buy enough products from RDNA to be affected, but I will miss the forums. 

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