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That's why I was asking. Was trying to find the way you wanted it handled.
When you see a spam or group of spam, you can send us a report. I think, because the flooding of spams we are experiencing, most of the mods go directly to the recent discussions now as soon as they get in the first of their day or after being afk. What you don't need to do is email the mods, or do more than one report when you first see the spam. We will also go over the reports, so will see the reports sent on spam as well. We appreciate your assistance, all of you. Thanks.
We are getting more all by ourselves than we get from flags TBH. Checking the reports just keeps us away from checking the forum ourselves.
But as Cris said, we do check the reports, in case we miss any.
Ok, so just now I'm getting "You must fill out the reCAPTCHA form so we know you are a human" when I try to start any new posts. However there is no CAPTCHA image or place to enter it. I just disabled NoScript to make sure it wasn't being blocked, but no luck. However it appears I can still reply to existing posts, I'm just no longer allowed to create one. Ideas? Is it working normally for everybody else?
(using Firefox.)
You should see this
Apparently the spammers are finding it, and ticking the box.
Ok, it works in Internet Explorer, it's at the bottom of the form. It's just Firefox that doesn't work.
Strange, it worked in FIrefox for me FF41. IS not very efficaceous in eliminating spammers though
Like I said above - I think we've got real live people creating the new accounts and then firing up the spambot on that ID - so I doubt that a captcha would help much.
What I don't understand is what they think they will accomplish with this; why post a batch of replicated spam on a site that gets few to zero users that understand the language of the poster? All I can assume is massive boredom on someone's part, or a pay-rate of 2 cents per spam message created or some such.
I'm with you on that one, surely they record the IP address, so they can black list them !
The IP addresses are dynamic and keep changing just one or two numbers.
We get some on my website, but my son blocks the IP address and that keeps them away - until the next lot come along!
I was wondering that also, does the bot do a couple auto checks on itself after excreting it's spam ,and is that the 2 views?..or has someone else on the forum viewed and reported?
I wonder because I've never seen one that had zero or 1 view
Or else you've been reading the Scary Go Round webcomic!
http://scarygoround.com/?date=20140323 explains it all, in hilarious detail.
How big of IP range are they using?
Must be huge !
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HA!!
I own or manage about 10 websites or so. I have a great security system in addition to my server's. There is nothing that will stop spam completely. You can block countries by IP blocks but I wouldn't advise that route as there may be some legitimate people in those countries. As for filters that can be tricky as some words which might be offensive to some groups, are legitimate for others. As an example there is a word which is often blocked in filters which dog breeders commonly use without offence. Yahoogroups tried to block that word once but do you know how many lists are devoted to dogs there! :) The only thing I've really found that works with spam is the delete button. Spam is just something we all have to live with
PS A big thanks to the moderators here for all their hard work! I've worked as a moderator on forums before and it is a thankless job so kudos to you all.
Not necessarily. If the first, let's say 5 posts of every new user is moderated, and only gets publicly displayed when a moderator approves, then the users will see roughly zero spam messages.
Of course this brings up two (three) questions: 1, is the current forum software capable of something like this; 2, would the moderators be willing to do this. (3, How would new users react to this.)
Luckily, this is not my call to make. :)
Ati, other than us not seeing the spam what would that accomplish other than more work for the mods? The bots are still going to spawn spam and they will have to deal with it no matter what is done. But in addition they will have to mod those x number of new users posts. Some of those will be "Hi I am new" posts but many of them will be "Help!" posts that will need to be open to comment in a timely manner. For the most part the mods do a bang up job of having someone around pretty much 24/7 and the spam gets dealt with pretty darn fast. If that were not true this thread would never have been started since they have been spamming like this pretty much forever.
The only thing it would accomplish is that we, as normal users, would not see the spam. (And at the same time, it would give mods a little more work. Although they would not have to check for spam so often, so who knows... in the long run it may even reduce their workload.)
I either keep coming to the forums more often now than before, or there is more spam. I see spam messages every hour or so.
I personally don't really care too much about the spam here, the mods do a good job cleaning it up. Well, okay, sometimes it's a little harder to find the threads with new posts among the spam, but it's still managable.
However, responding to EmotionalOutlet's post, I had to explain that spam is not necessarily something that we, as users have to live with.
Previously it came up that if you had bought something from the DAZ store, you could be exempt from the moderation even during the first few posts, making legitimate users even less aware of this moderation procedure. I have a forum with 300000+ posts, and not a single spam. So it does work.
Unfortunately this botnet, spam bot or what ever it is is not being restrained by the more usual spam busting tools that can be built in. It is managing to get past a combination of 3, including the need for an email confirmation and a captcha. Picture a web dev room with hair littering the floor as they try and work out what to attempt next, without it being too intrusuve for normal forum members and genuine customers.
It is obviously a combo of human and bot.
I'm not familiar with this particular forum engine, so I've no idea what can and what cannot be built in. Just out of curiousity: is it at all possible to have someone be moderated? Meaning: their posts only appear publicly after someone approves them?
Some are already remarking on/complaing about the Captcha.
You should see the amount that gets posted during what are the evening and night hours for Europe, as that is the daytime hours for the area from which this spam is being sent.
Fixmypcmike and Cris are doing a terrific job keeping that lot down, I tell 'ee
4 if you count what is built in to Cloudflare, too.
"daytime hours for the area from which this spam is being sent"
I wouldn't be too sure of that, Cho. These sorts of things are all about deception and misdirection. None of the people behind such things are likely to provide any obvious clues to their origins as there is nothing to be gained by assisting anyone in narrowing the search for the culprits.
They are using only IP numbers known to be from Korea. And many different blocks of numbers from there. They are also posting in the Korean typeset, so I think we can be relatively confident where this lot is coming from.
We did tell the web guys that it wasn't hindering the spammers. Benjam was remarkably restrained with his reaction.
I'm not surprised - a bot can easily be configured to check a checkbox automatically. You can do tons of weird stuff with a little programming. So the current solution is not worth much, whether it's humans or bots.
But maybe if they set it to show the pictures from the start it might help - to my knowledge that's not something the bots can handle yet. If nothing else it might reveal if there are humans involved.