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The new DAZ to Blender Plugin

MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 2,302
edited July 29 in The Commons

https://www.daz3d.com/fast-animation-studio-tools--a-daz-to-blender-pipeline

Looks great, but expensive.
Stll a must have.
One question, though.
It is for everyone, right?
Not just DAZ+ or premire?

Post edited by Masterstroke on
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  • LeanaLeana Posts: 12,738

    Both of the new plugins are PA products, so nothing to do with Daz+ or Premier.

  • MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 2,302

    Leana said:

    Both of the new plugins are PA products, so nothing to do with Daz+ or Premier.

    yesyesyes 

  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 9,543
    edited July 29

    Masterstroke said:

    https://www.daz3d.com/fast-animation-studio-tools--a-daz-to-blender-pipeline

    Looks great, but expensive.
    Stll a must have.
    One question, though.
    It is for everyone, right?
    Not just DAZ+ or premire?

    As long as a product is on sales with a product and a readme page, it's not binded with Daz+ or Premier tier.

    Well, I got this Blender add-on nearly two years ago for Blender 3.6 from the vendor because I ever gave him some help through a coincidence. He's really a nice guy and has been making lots of effort on making this add-on... (nearly 9 Mil lines of codes up to now....)

    I liked the add-on 'cause it was powerful ... but only heavy and with bugs to me : with older Blender version, it took a long time to load on Blender's startup...  so I deactivated the add-on for a period of time. I just tested version 7.2.8 with Blender 4.5, the loading speed is really boosted but it destroys my Diffeopmorphic add-on... and its Library failed to be installed. Then, latest version of 7.5.5 also failed to be activated.... I'll try contacting the vendor ~~

    Anyway, if you're a heavy animator with Blender, it worth trying the add-on, but I personally suggest hang on for a while before some bugs are fixed ~~

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  • SageWinduSageWindu Posts: 34

    crosswind said:

    Well, I got this Blender add-on nearly two years ago for Blender 3.6 from the vendor because I ever gave him some help through a coincidence. He's really a nice guy and has been making lots of effort on making this add-on... (nearly 9 Mil lines of codes up to now....)

    You sound pretty knowledgable about this. Would this be the suite to use to move an entire scene from DAZ to Blender or would Diffeomorphic suffice?

    I ask because I plan to upgrade my GPU in the future and would prefer to move away from Nvidia if possible, but I also like how iRay looks. Blender seems to be the best compromise for that since its lighting engines aren't reliable on specific GPU architecture (at least, last I checked).

  • DoctorJellybeanDoctorJellybean Posts: 9,592
    edited July 29

    Masterstroke said:

    https://www.daz3d.com/fast-animation-studio-tools--a-daz-to-blender-pipeline

    Looks great, but expensive.
    Stll a must have.
    One question, though.
    It is for everyone, right?
    Not just DAZ+ or premire?

    This one is more wallet friendly, and from a quick test it appears to work quite well

    https://www.daz3d.com/blender-to-daz-studio-plugin

    Post edited by Richard Haseltine on
  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 9,543

    SageWindu said:

    crosswind said:

    Well, I got this Blender add-on nearly two years ago for Blender 3.6 from the vendor because I ever gave him some help through a coincidence. He's really a nice guy and has been making lots of effort on making this add-on... (nearly 9 Mil lines of codes up to now....)

    You sound pretty knowledgable about this. Would this be the suite to use to move an entire scene from DAZ to Blender or would Diffeomorphic suffice?

    I ask because I plan to upgrade my GPU in the future and would prefer to move away from Nvidia if possible, but I also like how iRay looks. Blender seems to be the best compromise for that since its lighting engines aren't reliable on specific GPU architecture (at least, last I checked).

    Hah, it just integrates Diffeo as "its importer" to import scenes from DS... I suggest just stick to using Diffeo's panels to import what you need ~~ And still, Diffeo is the most powerful and reliable add-on for importing Daz stuff.

  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 9,543

    DoctorJellybean said:

    Masterstroke said:

    https://www.daz3d.com/fast-animation-studio-tools--a-daz-to-blender-pipeline

    Looks great, but expensive.
    Stll a must have.
    One question, though.
    It is for everyone, right?
    Not just DAZ+ or premire?

    This one is more wallet friendly, and from a quick test it appears to work quite well

    https://www.daz3d.com/blender-to-daz-studio-plugin ;

    But this add-on is Blender > DS rather than DS > Blender. It might not be what OP wants ~~wink 

  • DoctorJellybeanDoctorJellybean Posts: 9,592

    crosswind said:

    DoctorJellybean said:

    Masterstroke said:

    https://www.daz3d.com/fast-animation-studio-tools--a-daz-to-blender-pipeline

    Looks great, but expensive.
    Stll a must have.
    One question, though.
    It is for everyone, right?
    Not just DAZ+ or premire?

    This one is more wallet friendly, and from a quick test it appears to work quite well

    https://www.daz3d.com/blender-to-daz-studio-plugin ;

    But this add-on is Blender > DS rather than DS > Blender. It might not be what OP wants ~~wink 

    Oops, yes. 

  • MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 2,302

    Thank you :-)
    Looked through the descriptions and got confused.
    Has Diffeomorphic to be installed, in order to use this plugin?

  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 9,543
    edited July 29

    Masterstroke said:

    Thank you :-)
    Looked through the descriptions and got confused.
    Has Diffeomorphic to be installed, in order to use this plugin?

    Yes, for importing DS scenes ~~

    Edit: I wonder what version of Diffeo it really supports now... maybe just a "stable version". I always use the latest commit version, then this add-on auto removes it with no notification... faint ~~

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  • TheLionTheLion Posts: 30
    edited July 29

    It's a bit confusing to figure out what this plugin actually provides? It lists a lot of features and buttons, but a lot of those read like they are just wrappers for a lot of things that are basically already freely available like Diffeomorphic, or the NLA editor in Blender for animation layering... But I might be mistaken and oversimplifying and undervalueing the plugin.

    Post edited by TheLion on
  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 9,543
    edited July 29

    Well, you guys can check some very fundamental tutorials (seems not really up-to-date...) on his gumroad page : https://toapyandfriends.gumroad.com/l/fast-animation-studio-tools ; ...

     

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  • MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 2,302

    TheLion said:

    It's a bit confusing to figure out what this plugin actually provides? It lists a lot of features and buttons, but a lot of those read like they are just wrappers for a lot of things that are basically already freely available like Diffeomorphic, or the NLA editor in Blender for animation layering... But I might be mistaken and oversimplifying and undervalueing the plugin.

    It seems to be very prizy for a plugin, that just sits on top of another plugin, that is actually free. 

  • ChongobuttChongobutt Posts: 2

    Can anyone vouch for how this works in comparison to diffeomorphic?

  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 9,543

    brandonprows said:

    Can anyone vouch for how this works in comparison to diffeomorphic?

    As I said above, it just integrates Diffeo ~~ i.e. it has no embedded function of importing DS scenes. 

  • MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 2,302

    crosswind said:

    brandonprows said:

    Can anyone vouch for how this works in comparison to diffeomorphic?

    As I said above, it just integrates Diffeo ~~ i.e. it has no embedded function of importing DS scenes. 

    There are no Diffeomorph requirements listed as far as I can say.
    You might guess it by looking through those example images. 

  • brainmuffinbrainmuffin Posts: 1,267
    edited July 29

    crosswind said:

    SageWindu said:

    crosswind said:

    Well, I got this Blender add-on nearly two years ago for Blender 3.6 from the vendor because I ever gave him some help through a coincidence. He's really a nice guy and has been making lots of effort on making this add-on... (nearly 9 Mil lines of codes up to now....)

    You sound pretty knowledgable about this. Would this be the suite to use to move an entire scene from DAZ to Blender or would Diffeomorphic suffice?

    I ask because I plan to upgrade my GPU in the future and would prefer to move away from Nvidia if possible, but I also like how iRay looks. Blender seems to be the best compromise for that since its lighting engines aren't reliable on specific GPU architecture (at least, last I checked).

    Hah, it just integrates Diffeo as "its importer" to import scenes from DS... I suggest just stick to using Diffeo's panels to import what you need ~~ And still, Diffeo is the most powerful and reliable add-on for importing Daz stuff.

    How much more does it actually have for $105? I've had mixed luck animating characters once transferred via Diffeo.

    Post edited by brainmuffin on
  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 9,543

    Masterstroke said:

    crosswind said:

    brandonprows said:

    Can anyone vouch for how this works in comparison to diffeomorphic?

    As I said above, it just integrates Diffeo ~~ i.e. it has no embedded function of importing DS scenes. 

    There are no Diffeomorph requirements listed as far as I can say.
    You might guess it by looking through those example images. 

    As I said above, I started to use it nearly 2 years ago  ~~ Check this video: 

  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 9,543
    edited July 29

    brainmuffin said:

    crosswind said:

    SageWindu said:

    crosswind said:

    Well, I got this Blender add-on nearly two years ago for Blender 3.6 from the vendor because I ever gave him some help through a coincidence. He's really a nice guy and has been making lots of effort on making this add-on... (nearly 9 Mil lines of codes up to now....)

    You sound pretty knowledgable about this. Would this be the suite to use to move an entire scene from DAZ to Blender or would Diffeomorphic suffice?

    I ask because I plan to upgrade my GPU in the future and would prefer to move away from Nvidia if possible, but I also like how iRay looks. Blender seems to be the best compromise for that since its lighting engines aren't reliable on specific GPU architecture (at least, last I checked).

    Hah, it just integrates Diffeo as "its importer" to import scenes from DS... I suggest just stick to using Diffeo's panels to import what you need ~~ And still, Diffeo is the most powerful and reliable add-on for importing Daz stuff.

    How much more does it actually have for $105? I've had mixed luck animating characters once transferred via Diffeo.

    I have to say : too expensive ~~ I got it for free but I rarely use it nowadays. The vendor better gives a full introduction of the latest version for the potential users to watch before any buys...

    Post edited by crosswind on
  • MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 2,302

    crosswind said:

    Masterstroke said:

    crosswind said:

    brandonprows said:

    Can anyone vouch for how this works in comparison to diffeomorphic?

    As I said above, it just integrates Diffeo ~~ i.e. it has no embedded function of importing DS scenes. 

    There are no Diffeomorph requirements listed as far as I can say.
    You might guess it by looking through those example images. 

    As I said above, I started to use it nearly 2 years ago  ~~ Check this video: 

    I should not have to get important informations about a tool from a video another user is posting. 
    This add is what I am seeing and the vendor is in charge for providing me those important information.
    When I saw it first, I have been all hyped, now I am just left suspicious.
    I don't trust this.

  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 9,543
    edited July 29

    crosswind said:

    Masterstroke said:

    crosswind said:

    Masterstroke said:

    crosswind said:

    brandonprows said:

    Can anyone vouch for how this works in comparison to diffeomorphic?

    As I said above, it just integrates Diffeo ~~ i.e. it has no embedded function of importing DS scenes. 

    There are no Diffeomorph requirements listed as far as I can say.
    You might guess it by looking through those example images. 

    As I said above, I started to use it nearly 2 years ago  ~~ Check this video: 

    I should not have to get important informations about a tool from a video another user is posting. 
    This add is what I am seeing and the vendor is in charge for providing me those important information.
    When I saw it first, I have been all hyped, now I am just left suspicious.
    I don't trust this.

    I don't know what you mean in here ~~ I just post a video link that was made by the vendor of this add-on for Blender 3.6. What's the problem with that ?! 

    You maybe don't like this way but these info. may be helpful for others to check before they go for buying it ....  Don't complain to me ~

     

    Post edited by crosswind on
  • MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 2,302

    It is nice, that you link important additional informations about this plugin.
    I am just saying, that this should have been the vendor's job.

  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 9,543
    edited July 29

    Masterstroke said:

    It is nice, that you link important additional informations about this plugin.
    I am just saying, that this should have been the vendor's job.

    I don't know... maybe he should post a commercial thread in  sub-forum of Daz PA Commercial Products -

    Post edited by crosswind on
  • brainmuffinbrainmuffin Posts: 1,267

    crosswind said:

    As I said above, I started to use it nearly 2 years ago  ~~ Check this video: 

    Oh, I thought the animation tools were on the Blender side, not based on Mimic in Studio. I don't have that.
  • brainmuffinbrainmuffin Posts: 1,267

    Masterstroke said:

    I should not have to get important informations about a tool from a video another user is posting. 
    This add is what I am seeing and the vendor is in charge for providing me those important information.
    When I saw it first, I have been all hyped, now I am just left suspicious.
    I don't trust this.

    I quite agree. The webpage mentions videos, but no links are embedded. I'm liking this tool less and less.
  • brainmuffinbrainmuffin Posts: 1,267

    Masterstroke said:

    It is nice, that you link important additional informations about this plugin.
    I am just saying, that this should have been the vendor's job.

    I missed that the linked video was of the vendor's YouTube channel. There are several newer ones in the mix. Same shouty voice though. https://www.youtube.com/@toapyandfriends/videos

  • TheNathanParableTheNathanParable Posts: 1,089
    edited July 29

    I'm really confused. So is the FAST animation studio tools just the free Diffeomorphic plugin bundled with a bunch of other addons? The diffeomorphic website doesn't mention anything about it, but i'm assuming they must have permission.

    And what about the AI script generator? I'm assuming from the mention of OpenAI that it's ChatGPT? As far as I know ChatGPT can't be downloaded to run locally, so wouldn't this require a subscription to OpenAI's online service? Can we really trust an AI model to "output a perfect script every time"? Recent news from the world of "vibe coding" suggests otherwise.

    https://www.pcgamer.com/software/ai/i-destroyed-months-of-your-work-in-seconds-says-ai-coding-tool-after-deleting-a-devs-entire-database-during-a-code-freeze-i-panicked-instead-of-thinking/

    As someone who's really interested in using Daz models in Blender, I really want to know what i'm getting myself into before I potentially spend $100+ on such a large bundle of addons.

    Post edited by TheNathanParable on
  • brainmuffinbrainmuffin Posts: 1,267

    TheNathanParable said:

    As someone who's really interested in using Daz models in Blender, I really want to know what i'm getting myself into before I potentially spend $100+ on such a large bundle of addons.

    I'm in the same spot. Do I buy to see what all it can do and trust DAZ's refund system if it doesn't work?

  • MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 2,302
    edited July 30

    If this is only a enhanced UI plugin for free Diffeomorphic, then 100$ + is really, really prizey.

    To say it really honest:
    I feel scammed, for by the advertisment, I expected a stand alone "one click" solution tool to bring
    quote:
    "Genesis 3, 8, 8.1, and 9 characters (plus props and environments) directly into Blender".
    "Our Auto Daz Studio Import System handles everything"

    No word of an add on for Diffeomorphic.
    Quote:
    "FAST Animation Studio Tools – A Daz Studio to Blender Pipeline
    Auto Daz Studio Import System"
    Sounds like a stand alone solution to me. So why does it need diffeomorphic?
    As I said.
    I feel scammed.

    Post edited by Masterstroke on
  • ElorElor Posts: 3,151
    edited July 30

    TheNathanParable said:

    I'm really confused. So is the FAST animation studio tools just the free Diffeomorphic plugin bundled with a bunch of other addons? The diffeomorphic website doesn't mention anything about it, but i'm assuming they must have permission.

    I don't know if the FAST animation studio tools is what you think it is (I don't do animation) but if I'm reading diffeomorphic's website correctly, diffeomorphic is shared under a GPL2 licence so someone doesn't need permissions to include it in another product:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License#Terms_and_conditions

    Post edited by Elor on
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