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  • miladyderyni_173d399f47miladyderyni_173d399f47 Posts: 2,817

    I had a lot of Bad Gateway issues here yesterday. None today, so far.

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 5,779

    Try being in the middle of a medical 'e-check-in' where they ask you to write out why you are seeing the doctor? I was wrapping one up and the screen went fuzzy and I lost a 15 minute entry. I have no idea what I wrote the second time matched what I wrote the first time. I tried. But thankfully my surgeon paid more attention to my on-line history and the tests already performed and the medical practioners who had seen me already for this issue. 

    With DAZ it is not life or death, or whatever. It is just ... but trust me, I was super ticked off with my medical website. No idea if it was a hack, an update in the middle of a workday, or what, but it was freaking annoying.

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,798

    miladyderyni_173d399f47 said:

    I had a lot of Bad Gateway issues here yesterday. None today, so far.

    I've had a lot of gateway errors today, including when trying to respond to your message the first time. The forum is almost unusable for me for the last few days.  

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,822

    its B B BB Bad ...

  • csaacsaa Posts: 997
    edited April 23

    I found time to look into the timeout and gateway errors we see with the Daz Forum. The exercise simply involved using `wget`, a Linux utility for interacting with websites, and using the data as a basis for a brief chat with AI. Essentially I wanted to understand the reason why the Daz3D landing page was working well while the Forum was problematic. Attached are the TXT data and the transcribed AI chats as PDF.

    Full disclosure, here at the AI chat prompts:

    1. I used wget to crawl da3d.com and daz3d.com/forums separately. Looking at the output, what can you deduce about these two URLs?
    2. OK. Looking at the Daz Forums site, tell me more about what you found: Vanilla Forums software, specifically version 2.1.13p1.
    3. The Daz Forums site exhibits random gateway/timeout, with an accompanying Cloudflare error. (See this - https://www.daz3d.com/forums/uploads/FileUpload/76/05fd6381393e69ee9f04bf234e38d4.png - for a screenshot of the error message.) What can you infer from this and what you uncovered above?

    That's all I've got.

    Cheers!

    cc: Richard Haseltine, Fire Angel, nemesis10

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  • 3DIO3DIO Posts: 292
    edited May 10



    Chris Rea sadly passed away in December of last year (RIP Chris), but I reckon he'd be well-pleased with my reworking of Road To Hell if he saw it:

    Well I'm staring at Daz forums
    But the data doesn't flow
    It boils with every Gateway
    You can think of

    And I'm staring at The Commons
    But the light of joy I know
    Is browsing the Daz forums
    Without any errors

    And the perverted fear of failure
    Chokes the smile on every face
    And common sense is ringing
    Out the bell

    This ain't no technological breakdown
    Oh no, this is The Gateway To Hell

    And then you use up your Daz Tokens
    And there's nothing you can do
    Many store-wide errors
    None to blame on you

    Oh look out world, take a good look
    What goes down here
    You must learn this lesson fast
    And learn it well

    This ain't no upwardly mobile freeway
    Oh no, this is The Gateway
    This is The Gateway
    This is The Gateway To Hell

     

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,822
    edited April 30

    weird cloudflare shenanigans 

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  • Fire AngelFire Angel Posts: 320
    edited May 4

    butterflyfish said:

    I feel like it's not Cloudflare's fault, since every time I get the error page it says the error is with the host, i.e.DAZ.

    I suspect that is a nonsense message; every site that uses CloudFlare has a huge increase in problems, they are well known for making sites slow or unusuable.  I cannot help thinking someone at DAZ made a very, very bad decision recently.

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  • butterflyfishbutterflyfish Posts: 1,577
    Fire Angel said:

    butterflyfish said:

    I feel like it's not Cloudflare's fault, since every time I get the error page it says the error is with the host, i.e.DAZ.

    I suspect that is a nonsense message; every site that uses CloudFlare has a huge increase in problems, they are well known for making sites slow or unusuable.  I cannot help thinking someone at DAZ made a very, very bad decision recently.

    I go to two other forums that use Cloudflare, and neither has the problems that DAZ has. One is very small, but the other has a good amount of traffic, and is never down. Of course I've probably cursed them now. Lol
  • miladyderyni_173d399f47miladyderyni_173d399f47 Posts: 2,817

    butterflyfish said:

    Fire Angel said:

    butterflyfish said:

    I feel like it's not Cloudflare's fault, since every time I get the error page it says the error is with the host, i.e.DAZ.

    I suspect that is a nonsense message; every site that uses CloudFlare has a huge increase in problems, they are well known for making sites slow or unusuable.  I cannot help thinking someone at DAZ made a very, very bad decision recently.

    I go to two other forums that use Cloudflare, and neither has the problems that DAZ has. One is very small, but the other has a good amount of traffic, and is never down. Of course I've probably cursed them now. Lol

    Same here. Of course Daz forums might be set up in some way that doesn't play nicely with Cloudflare.

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,798

    Statistics I see online:

    • Top Websites: Cloudflare is utilized by over 32% of the top 10,000 most popular websites.
    • Traffic Volume: The network manages over 20% of global web traffic, according to reports from late 2025.

    And yet I only get these errors on Daz forum pages. I do believe those messages that blame the problem on the host (Daz). 

  • alexhcowleyalexhcowley Posts: 2,408

    barbult said:

    Statistics I see online:

    • Top Websites: Cloudflare is utilized by over 32% of the top 10,000 most popular websites.
    • Traffic Volume: The network manages over 20% of global web traffic, according to reports from late 2025.

    And yet I only get these errors on Daz forum pages. I do believe those messages that blame the problem on the host (Daz). 

    There are 10,000 top websites? I wonder how many of  those feature cute little fluffy kitten pictures?

    Cheers,

    Alex. 

  • BejaymacBejaymac Posts: 1,977
    edited May 5

    I've looked into what CloadFlare does, basically they are a Denial Of Service defence, when an attack targets a site they "protect" the bots get redirected right around their entire network, which means the bots never hit the site on mass, they are staggered so they arrive at different times, which allows the site to still function.

    I suspect the problems we have with the forums is likely "splash damage", part of the attack is getting through to the sub-domainthe forums are on.

    Now it may not be an actual DoS attack, I usually have a hard time getting into the forums 10 minutes either side of 10:00 UK time, so how many people are starting up DS/DIM and or trying to log into the forums at that time.

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,822

    Finally got through on Firefox after Safari on my iPad gave bad gateway after bad gateway

  • 3DIO3DIO Posts: 292

    Thankfully not a Gateway Error this time, but rather me informing my loyal fan base that I've reworked my rework of Road To Hell posted ten posts back.
    I came back really just to listen to Chris, and noticed I forgot a whole damn verse, and even the bridge!

    Shame on me, but it's fixed now  :-D

     

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,822

    I got a bad gateway and then the thread I was replying to vanished 

    probably a coincidence 

  • 3DIO3DIO Posts: 292

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    I got a bad gateway and then the thread I was replying to vanished 

    probably a coincidence 

    Nope.  See attached.

     

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  • StezzaStezza Posts: 8,984

    wink

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