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All worked out! everything feel so much faster, thank you!
I especially like the fact that it's a stand lone app outside of the one I'm using, So this 6.25 is what Daz 5 will look like?
I just had new pc 32gb of a 5090 but when I try & render with just the grphics card I am getting blck screen? any clue? I spent a fair packet for this pc & doesn't seem to be cutting it with most programmes I also have 192gb of ram? I can not understand what is happening?
You need to use Daz Studio 2025 to render with an RTX 5000 GPU: the Iray version included in previous version of Daz Studio, including Daz Studio 4.24 are not able to use them.
https://www.daz3d.com/blog/daz-studio-2025-alpha-release
https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/728111/daz-studio-2025-alpha-version-6-25-2025-12207-updated-may-2-2025
Note that DS 2025 is an alpha version, and plugins made for Daz Studio 4 won't work with it and scripts are likely to not work either (scripts without UI should work).
god no I haven't a clue I thought get the best & it would work go figure with someone who like me does'nt have a clue :C
(Edited by mod to fix the quote)
You have to follow these steps to access the alpha (taken from the blog post):
How are you guys doing?
At the moment I work with both DAZ: the old version for developing and with the new one for rendering. I have both open at the same time and of course, I need to close and open the DAZ 2025 to load new scenes.
I was in your shoes 2 weeks ago, go download Daz alpha 6.25(only avilable on DIM) like other posters suggested, get the latest nvidia driver, and things will work on RTX5090 beautifully. (still alot of bugs like scripts and animations don't work but it loads things much faster)
Hey, just pushing the 5090 to the limit and I guess I need to get the other RAMs from the drawer... RAM hungry with 2 DAZ (old and new) open
Just before opening DAZ 2025 and rendering I have 20 GB busy, so the rest 70 GB are being used by the rendering scene; I do have 12 FIGS (G8 and G9) and a big house with garden (a lot of props)
Will update after I installed the other 96 GB RAM ...
The general advice is that to take full advantage of the memory in the GPU you want two or three tiems as much system RAM, so yees a 32 GB might well need 96GB of system RAM on its own.
....96 GB is what my system upgrade calls for. Can never have too much "overhead" particularly for future upgrades (like a slightly more modest RTX Pro 4000 with 24 GB VRAM).
Jesus, are you guys doing stuff on the side for Pixar, heres me with my 4070 Super quite happy with render times :D
I could use it if I had the money (both for the rig and card) those Dforce Strandbased hairs alone are resource killers
all the newer stuff is
...yeah dForce hair is worse than cloth and I have two toughest ones to simulate (particularly for my 13 year old system): Primavera and Classic Long Curly Hair
Staying away from the dForce strand based hairs for now.
He he - Classic Long Curly Hair is the one I bought when I first started long time ago, so I can do a test: took 1 min and 30 sec for the "Better"simulation in DAZ 4xx ... some years ago on 1080 Ti's (had 4 of them) it was super hard to do this
For the Classic Long Sleek Hair (with View SubD Level on 2) I need around 7 min on "Better" sim settings (can make and drink a coffee) -- sometimes, after the 8th min, it crashes my system: the screens turns black and mouse stops moving (no clue why). In case the sim is close to the end and I can wait, the systems restores...
Just realized and switched the View Sub D on 1 and I get 2m 30s
(thanks)
...when i got the first successful sim of Primavera Hair it took about 18 min and the pose was not as complex as the one yout attachment. I have a Maxwell Titan X (12 GB) however only 24 GB of system memory and a 2.9 GHz 6 core Xeon.
I also use dForce Companion 2..
Late to my own discussion here (lots going on IRL), but if I'm seeing that correctly, the 5080 is about on par with the 4090, just with 8GB less RAM...maybe even a touch faster.
RAM wise...I know things are getting bigger, but when I had my 4090, I gave myself a "Vicky Challenge". Kept loading Victoria 8 into the scene till the render became GPU fallback. I forget how many I had, but I eventually got bored and gave up.
Adding new V8s (or any other figure being added again and again), will not load new textures into the GPU, only extra geometry, which takes a fraction of the space of the textures. If you had ensured all the new V8s were sub-d 5, or more, then it could well have made you run out of GPU quicker. V8s on sub-d 1 or 2 don't use a huge amount of VRAM for the geometry, so you could indeed load quite a lot of them (though I would expect Daz Studio to crash at some point if it ran out of normal memory).
..what about HD textures?
Textures or morphs? In DS HD is almost certainly about morphs.
..yeah, thinkimg more of 8k textures along with HD morphs. .
OK - big question: does anyone tested with 2x 5090
any problems?
I need a second one, else it's too boring here ... not that I would make any money, but at least with the TOP machine of the world (for freelancers) I would be motivated to work
The 5090 is working great, found no problem at all. I need to use both versions of Daz as I prepare the scene with my 3D Mouse and then render in DAZ 2025
Loading a scene is not that bad, very fast loading and unloading times.
Sadly I think the preformance is very close to 2x 4090 so, it might have been OK to keep those, but they would devaluate in time, so the 5090 can be sold more easily.
Scene with 4 chracters takes up 13.5 GB, and I keep it only 2 minutes, else the difference is very very very small. Normal RAM is 3x GPU at 39 GB
Power at 410 W (70%) and with 34% of fans spinning the temp is amazing 72 for GPU and 76 for VRAM
I think a big plus is the smoothness of the camera incl. Perspective View ... I like this much more.
Also, I update almost weekly the new DAZ 2025 - we get a lot of updates
...do you still have the 4090s?
No, I sold them when the 5090 came out, so I still make some money on them ... (worst decision ever :), I'll never upgrade like that, only after 6 - 12 months after new GPU release
I’m trying to decide between getting an RTX 4090 at the current high price, or going for the RTX 5090 and working on DAZ Studio alpha/beta builds.
I usually create complex scenes and rely heavily on dForce, so my question is:
Can I build my scenes in DAZ Studio 4.24, then export/open them in the DAZ Studio alpha/beta if I go with the 5090?
Will the scene stay exactly the same, or could some parts break/change when moving it to the alpha/beta version?
Probably - ypu may need to bake any plug-in data that isn't supported in DS (e.g. Mesh Grabber modifiers baked to morphs) and there is not currently a batch render option for DS 2025 other than the Premier-only render Queue.
It should be unchanged, though note the change log does note some work on render (which is intended to be neutral, but it is rlatively new so there may be issues)
My opinion
Yes, that's how I work for some months now and all is grreat. For very heavy scenes with a lot of items (had a huge yacht with rooms and furniture) it takes a lot of time to open, and you can only render, not even preview... changing views (texture / universal / render) takes a lot of time (minutes)
If you have any GPU, experience with them now, it takes a bit longer - but I am happy.
What I use in DAZ 2025 is changing textures, turning on / off, simulations ... but if I need to turn camera and lights I prefer to do that in Daz 4 and then re-open. I also keep both DAZ open all the time.
The only scenario that would be unusable is if you need to change libraries often, because you need to change them in both DAZs, or when you need PlugIns that are not available in DAZ 5.
EDIT: Forgot to mention, you can work on DAZ 4 while DAZ 5 renders
I strongly recommend to get a 5090 and get a thin one, maybe you'll want to add another one soon.
Hey Guys,
when the DAZ 25 goes in background mode, the GPU drop to 50% power rendering. Might be even windows? Like when I open Facebook while rendering.
Very easy to spot as the fans turn down a lot.