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...I miss the Friday Night Fish Fry's in Milwaukee WI. Just about every church had them, some which were "all you could eat" for something like "three bucks fifty". The best used those lightly lake perch fillets.
A local seafood restaurant operation here in Portland (founded by a person form Wisconsin) had it on the menu but it was expensive as the perch are not native to this region (not even available form the local seafood distributors here) so the restaurant had them specially "imported" from Montana and North Dakota..
They had two locations in Portland, one on the southwest side and one near where I lived in the Hawthorne District. During he football season both were the place to catch Green Bay Packer games. They were like "little outposts" of Wisconsin here.
Sadly they were one of the many businesses that shuttered during the pandemic and never reopened afterwards.
As to post office routings, it sounds they took a lesson from the airlines that fly you to some out of the way mega hub where you change planes (after waiting a couple hours) to get to your destination. When I lived in Olympia WA, if I mailed a letter across town it went all the way up to Seattle first (105 miles away) and then back to the destination in Olympia. No wonder they've been losing money.
How things change though, and wow, I sound like an old man just lately (even though I'm not one). But there was a time when you were guaranteed a user manual (because for obvious reasons it was expected), and some gear even included schematics!
Personally, I reckon it all went downhill incredibly fast with the birth of PDF (as demonstrated perfectly in this 6-PHASE devolution list):
PHASE 1 - Full printed instructions with schematics
PHASE 2 - Full printed instrucitons but no schematics
PHASE 3 - The birth of PDF
PHASE 4 - Basic printed instructions only, with the rest stored on the internet as a PDF.
PHASE 5 - No printed instructions, with all instructions stored on the internet as a PDF.
PHASE 6 - No printed instructions, and no instructions stored on the internet (not even a PDF).
On the plus side, I am absolutely ecstatic today after reading news about the release of something beauiful, something tangible, something analogue!
It absolutey deserves its own thread though (it really is a very special piece of kit), so I'll post it later in a thread called "The Good Stuff Is Back" ...
Analogue lovers rejoice!
This is exactly what it looks like, the REVOX B77 MK III is the real deal, made by the very same REVOX that those in the know have come to respect over the years. Unfortunately, you'll not be owning one unless you have very deep pockets. Nevertheless, moves like this will slowly but surely serve to help push the resurgence of tape in a big way.
Click Here to Visit REVOX
...I have a 1967 Kenwood stereo HiFi system as well as the full manual, which includes the schematics,. it is all hand soldered transistor, (not "printed breadboard" like today).. On the back of the manual there is a list of about a dozen and a half places in the country that were authorised service shops, one in my old hometown of Milwaukee WI. and one here in Portland OR that is still in business .
The sound is excellent, better than comparable units made today as it is a high current amplifier which is excellent for classical and acoustic music (which is what I primarily listen to) as it can handle peaks without "clipping" (distorting).
As to PDFs, I still have a number of old Daz tutorials in that format which I downloaded many years ago. Still prefer this over video as I have poor retention with videos and get tired of having to keep backing up to play parts over again. Another issue with many videos is poor production value, some where the narration almost puts me to sleep of goes off on unrelated tangents..
TIL: The Sacramento Athletics have a player named MacIver.
He just made an RBI single out of a baseball and a piece of wood.
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...I saw that thread. I've always been interested a good quality reel to reel deck (preferably 4 track 1/2" inch tape and 15 IPS [inches per second] speed) but 15K is a just a little out of the budget.for a single component (on another thread I outlined a specifications for a system build based on the 96 GB RTX Pro 6000 GPU which is not all that much more).
Well if you ever change your mind and buy one, and then get fed up of it, you now where to send it - hahaha!
It's seriously expensive, and in hindsight I think they made a bad decision on the pricing. I can imagine something like that going for around five grand, but not fifteen, that's just ridiculus and I can't imagine any part of the manufacturing process would warrant such pricing. What Studer (Revox) need to do is start manufacturing audio cassette transports for the OEM market. That would encourage and trigger a whole bunch of boutique and small businesses to manufacture their own cassette decks. If tape head and transport manufacturing was upped and catered to OEM sufficiently, things would really take off since cassette never went away, and the sales of cassettes have been rising massively just lately and has become the goto format for indie musicians to make some actual cash on thier music insteaad of feeding the greedy download services.
Here's a small example of the constant stream of brand new cassette releases:
https://bandcamp.com/discover/all/cassette
There are hundreds of thousands of releases, some of which are exclusive to cassette. The problem for most people, is that Amazon, Apple, Google, Microsoft etc have their customers in a bubble, ensuring to the best of their ability, that their users remain there, unaware of what's going on in the real analogue world that exists outside of their digital prison.
Anyway, I'm starting to sound ranty again, which was not my intention. I'm just so damn pleased to see that new Revox, I really am! In fact, when I first saw it, I though it might be some idiotic troll using A.I. in order to tease the analogue worshippers. But no, it's the real deal alright, and it's even the real brand!
I don't know. Are you sure it would fit inside a double DIN deck? And will I still have my air conditioner controls?
Low, low price of $20k for that.
Memorial Day: Big day for this little town. The annual Memorial Day Parade. I needed more salad & fruit today so I toddled on up to the center of town (2 blocks) right at parade time(noon). The streets were lined with local denizens and their puppies and the ancient ones like me grasping for a snippet of the olden days. The parade had the highschool band, cars of town officials, a float honoring military men, antique and old cars, firetrucks, kids on haywagons, and even George and Martha Washington** made another appearance this year. No horses this year, only two or three motorcycles, and just one bicycle. Parade was over in about 10 minutes and I carried on with my grocery shopping, life back to normal.
**Note: My mother made the two late-1700's costumes, back in the early 1970s. My mother and father wore the costumes in the parade for many years. The costumes were passed on to relatives of my stepsister who have carried on the tradition. I was going to include a photo but my camera boogered up right as they passed by.
But I did find an older picture from the 2019 parade. (below)
I decided to go on a movie date today with my boyfriend. I insisted on getting the tickets in advance earlier today.
Apparently, there are a few people wanting to watch a movie at this theater. Not sure about other theaters, but this one is packed.
I'm sure you get some free tape if you buy 2.
https://www.atrtape.com/
https://www.recordingthemasters.com/
https://obsoletemedia.org/audio/magnetic-tape/
But you are better off getting the Alice Cooper Limited Edition. I think that one comes with a headless bat. Probably for cleaning the mag-heads.
https://revox.com/en/tape-recorder/509/b77-mk-iii-stereo-tape-recorder-alice-cooper-limited-edition?c=254
@NylonGirl
Won't fit your dual DIN chassis I'm afraid, but you could always attach some fins to the spools, and leave it on rewind to generate some cool air!
@Torquinox
Bargain or what!
@hjake
Lots of nonense on YouTube!
@All
I do agree that the price is too much, far too much!
I think it would have been a much more sensible move to release a new 3-Head cassette deck, and after sales have peaked, they should have then gone into the business of supplying cassette transports to OEM manufacturers, because If tape head and tape transport manufacturing was upped and catered to OEM sufficiently, things would really take off since cassette never went away. The sales of cassettes have been rising massively just lately. It has become the goto format for indie musicians to make some actual cash on thier music, insteaad of feeding the greedy download services.
Here's a small example of the constant stream of brand new cassette releases, just in case you think I'm joking:
https://bandcamp.com/discover/all/cassette
There are hundreds of thousands of releases, some of which are exclusive to cassette. You would need to sell thousands of downloads in order to make the same amount of money you can make by selling just one cassette from home. The problem for most people is that Amazon, Apple, Google, Microsoft etc, all have their customers in a bubble, and they do their best to ensure that their customers remain there, unaware of what's actually going on in the analogue world that exists outside of their digital prison.
Another benefit of cassette is that it removes you from the constant stream of toxic garbage that the establishment are trying to feed you. The music at the link is very different to the sort of garbage been rammed down your throat on places like YouTube. In fact, I can honestly say that in recent decades, all of the best new music I've come across, has always been from, and through, the cassette community.
An indie band I recently found thanks to a cassette release, is a Canadian one called "Men I Trust". They embrace analogue. They produce beautiful-sounding tracks and they're doing pretty damn well for themselves, regardless you've likely never heard of them. They even shoot their own music videos on 8mm film, so there's a whole lotta love for analogue, and a whole lotta dedicaiton for you!
Have a listen, I'm sure your ears will thank you, especially if you have a quality set of headphones:
...If I had that kind of money I think I'd get more "mileage" out of the RTX Pro 6000 build I mentioned above.
I can get an Otrari 4 track (1/2" tape width) deck for less than 1/5th of that price in "like new" shape. I worked on those in a production studio back in my "radio days". Very high quality and excellent engineering. The wider tape and higher transport speed (15 ips) makes for superb audio quality.
I paid about $400 for a used one, back then (I think it was about $1000 new?).
Same as with the SME tonearms, about $200 for a new 3009 in 1972, $3000 for the current equivalent model they make today.
https://www.highendstudios.eu/shop/p/sme-m2-serie-tonarme
What a neat bit of history! I love traditions like that, and I'm glad it's been able to keep going.
@KyotoKid
Hah, well there goes my dream of a REVOX B77 MK III freebie being sent my way then!
Still, I have a beautiful high-end cassette deck from Sony's "Elevated Standards" division, so I'm not completely inconsolable - muahahaha!
You had a heck of a cool job from the sounds of it.
Non-Complaint: It's Raining. We've had so little rain this year that some of the crops are ripening already - not necessarily a good thing.
Complaint: Where I work the 60 year old factory roof seems to have a couple of leaks that weren't there last time it rained (3-4 months ago?) and some of them are over 415V/64Amp/3 phase sockets. Our site electrician has been getting quite excited, waving his hands about and talking in a louder than normal voice. He seems to think it's a 'Bad Thing' and it should stop.
Regards,
Richard
Years ago I used to look at stuff like that and wish I could afford it. Now I have more money to spend they've put the price up so I still can't afford it!
But I'm not into Hifi anymore. Back then I bought what was sometimes called budget HiFi equipment because I wanted something with better sound than a cheap record player. Now if I connect a good pair of headphones to my tablet or Steam Deck I get better sound that I ever had from any analog system.
Yeah, I was an audio gearhead. I used to drool over expensive Hi-Fi gear back in the late '60s. I had actually gathered a decent system by the early '80s. The AR turntable w/ Shure phono cartridge, AR speakers, Dynaco amplifier, Roberts 770X (later sold under Akai name) "cross-field heads" reel-to-reel tape recorder, fancy tall oak cabinet with glass doors. Speakers in multiple rooms. Nerd-city. Lost it all. Lost(i.e. stolen) by a moving company when I moved from Florida to Washington DC in '84. I rebuilt it over the next 10 years but sold it all again in an auction when my life fell apart in '01. I am now quite happy with a good set of essentially computer speakers with a separate bass module that I use for my TV, radio, computer, and CDs. I also have a nice set of Sennheiser wireless headphones that I use a lot because my hearing has deteriorated so much. Also had to recently get a frequency equalizer to pump up the treble enough to hear violins, piccolos & triangles anymore. I can still hear most of violins and a hint of piccolos, but the triangles are gone.
@PeterWade
Analogue is the master technology. It is superior in every way but size, price, and convenience!
@LeatherGryphon
Damn, very sorry to hear that. And that what you said about fixing your hearing with an EQ, I often wonder how many people realise they can do such a thing to fix-up their hearing. The only problem with it is you really need to be mindful that the frequencies you're boosting are precisely those that are impaired, which of course means that you're hitting the impaired frequencies with even more volume which can be a very bad idea uless you take extra care with the volume when doing that.
Out of curiosity, can you hear the reverb on the vocal of the "Men I Trust" video I posted above?
I only ask because they've used exquisite old-school recording techniques to get a nice, reveberated, hard-panned double-tracked sound on the vocal. It would be unfortunate to not hear it since they're not just very talented musicians, they're very talented producers as well. It sounds absolutely gorgeous on my headphones and has that yummy sound that only analogue gear can impart on audio in the way that it does.
I came along after the whole reel-to-reel thing. But I am old enough to miss having lots of buttons and moving parts. The receiver would have lots of things plugged into it: a cassette deck in which you could see the wheels turning through the window; a CD player in which the tray would slide out and it holds five discs so you can watch the tray spin until it gets to the disc you want; and a VCR in which you could watch it pull the tape in or eject it. And beyond what you could see moving, you could hear things moving.
And maybe even a record player connected with a phono input so you can play that one record you bought just because you have a record player. A record player which you bought just because you have a phono input. A phono input you have just because if you bought the receiver without the phono input then you would not be able to connect a record player if you ever had one. Never mind that by now record players were including RCA outputs. Never mind how many times the auto correct has changed “phono” to “phone” by now. I’m sure there is at least one of them I missed.
And the best part of all would be the motorized volume knob on the receiver. And all of this was controlled by the remote control that came with the receiver and has about a thousand buttons on it to control all of the above components plus the TV.
Now, it’s just the TV and the receiver with a Fire TV plugged into one of them. And none of it moves. Even when you turn the volume up and down, that big knob does nothing. I think some guy did a YouTube video about why younger people are fascinated with vintage equipment because it moves.
we had a little reel to reel recorder back in the day (late 60's) recorded my Dad snoring and he was shocked how loud it was,
I was about 8 but recall still having it in the 80's
no idea when it disappeared, Mum likely threw it out because I certainly didn't, was fascinated by such stuff
Merged this into the complaint thread since there was considerable overlap, and it really is too far off the main topic to have its own thread.
I thought you'd probably delete the offsite link.
@Taoz
Crazy stuff, and you should see the price of my cassette deck these days. After checking the price, let's just say I'm glad she's stored away safely in my mother's attic or I'd be scared to leave the house! She's my baby though and I'll never sell her no matter how much I need the cash, and no matter what price she starts fetching!
@NylonGirl
Same here, open reel was a fair bit before my time. I was a teen in the 80s so I'm a cassette man. And I a completely agree, there's definitely a fascinitaion with the mechanical aspect of it all, which I think is really nice to see. I mean, imagine sitting on a bus with a cassette walkman that has a large window on it, showing a cassette that has those open reel-style brushed metal plates, slowly rotating as it discreetly hammers your eardrums with pure analogue sound!
For sure it would catch attention as some cool, technical shiny thing that they just gotta have!
@Wendy
Creative people are often fascinated by such things, and you are definitely that! My father was exactly the same and used to restore very expensive grandfather clocks as a hobby. I take after my father, because while I don't restore grandfather clocks, I do have a fascination with beutifully made, precision mechanical equipment. I've always had the deepest repect for analogue and mechanical design and engineering done right.
@Richard
I did wonder whether to do that or not. But this stuff generates a lot of interest and I thought it might hijack the thread a bit too much.
@Barbult
Do you mean the link to Revox?
...yeah I did a classical show for nearly 5 years. and thoroughly enjoyed it. It wasn't one of those typical "snooty" and dull programmes where I put on a "pseudo intellectual" air, I had fun with it.
I worked at was an "eclectic" public community station (not affiliated with NPR) that encompassed a wide spectrum of music and even literary programming.
shortly after i started the station held a workshop with David Ossman formerly of Firesign Theatre fame who had moved on to work NPR. He was a fanatic of old time radio theatre who also hosted an annual week long Radio Theatre Conference in Columbia MO (which I later attended). The discussion eventually came to what to do with classical programming as it often was not the most popular genre the general radio audience , He turned to me and mentioned there were two options. either drop it from the format or "have some fun with it". For the next 30 minutes or so I just sat listened to him as he told a story of when he was literally thrown into hosting a classical music with little preparation. it was amazing and that became the influence my to turn a mundane run of the mill classical show into one that had more personality. Within a few weeks instantly it became one of the more popular shows on our schedule.
In my second year I moved to a morning slot (6 - 10 am) renamed the show to the Coffee Cantata Club (after Bach;s "Coffee Cantata") and turned it into a morning drive time show with classical music that sounded as it aired from a coffee house of a a studio (I had a running tape loop with background coffee shop sounds I's play when I was on the mic). Tuis was also an influence by Mr. Ossman as he said that there was an entire world inside that little box in the shelf or table know n as the radio.
As it was "wakey wakey" time, I refrained from playing lengthy works which was a real challenge (and which helped greatly expand my own record library as we were allowed to bring our own records in). it was a lot of work but also a lot of fun as I would do specials like composer birthdays, different themes, crossovers between classical and other music genre (like Jazz, film soundtracks, and even rock). I also went out on a limb once with an "all organ show" ( an instrument I was studying both performance and he history of) where i also included discussion about history of the instrument and how it works. That particular programme became unexpectedly popular.
As we had am educational obligation I also included discussions about music history composers, and musical instruments (from both a historical and design perspective (for example what makes a harpsichord sound different than a piano even though they looked slightly similar)
the toughest job I ever enjoyed.
@KyotoKid
Wow, very nice! That all paints a much more cohesive picture of the other stuff you wrote about as well (all that organ and harpsichord knowledge). I reckon that if you were famous, you would be able to produce a best selling biography around that lot quite easily, although admittedly I've never read a biography ion my life (not right through anyway). I did once start reading a sort of biography on the Pet Shop Boys, but I was very slow in reading it, and got fed-up of renewing it at the library, so never got to finish it.
Anyway, before I forget again, I have to say that animation in your signature, congrats on that because it shows some serious animation skill!
@Richard
So is everything ok? I feel as if something happened in the other thread, and I missed it. Did someone complain about a link to Revox? I only ask because barbult just mentioned about removing a link. I must admit that I'm confused about the whole link policy on here. There are endless links in forum posts and signatures to competing market places, and even adult 3D websites. So I'm confused as to why anyone would want to see a link to Revox be removed. Revox are no threat to Daz, they're in a completely different line of business.
I'm pleased you haven't removed it, but as I said, I feel like something happened in the other thread, and I missed it.