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There does appear to be a problem with Brayden''s left nipple. You have not imagined it as it appears on renders like a round red scar. It is also noticeable like this in the products promo image. I have looked at the original texture map and the left nipple looks flat. I increased the nipple morph to 160% and that helps for a side view but still does nothing for a front view render. I guess the angle was wrong when the real image texture photo was taken, so there may be no fix for this.
Leo 7, needs a hairy option. He also does not have any extra eye colors. It is strange to me that Olympia gets 4 eye colors, More than 4 makeups etc. Leo 7, just gets a base texture. There should be an unshaven option at least, and maybe a scalp texture, or something.
I like Leo, but there needs to be more eye colors included with base male figures.
Yup, kind of feel shorted.
Then again, this skin and it's options remind me of Scott's skin and limted options.
Wait, he only has one eye colour and no skin options at all? That's ... concerning.
-looks at cart-
leo, your place is becoming shaky. you'd better hope something great comes out today to make you necessary.
It's not like making extra eye colours is even hard once you've done the first. More skin options (I miss you, Michael 5!) is obviously more work, but that's just lazy.
There's no extra eye colors? Wow.
As soon as I saw Leo, I could only think of Joe Anglim from the most recent season of survivor - right down to the man bun!
Oddly, Brayden's nipples look fine to me when I render them myself...
he doesn't have a no-shaven face option??
Nope! Even Lee and Darius had different eye colors. He just has what the texture loads with- dark brownish black eyes. Here's what you get. Sorry, the screenshot is cut off on the bottom, but that is just the actor and another transculency map
Leo most definitely needs a scalp texture, a body hair on/off texture and a facial hair texture. Eye colors aren't that much work. I'm surprised they aren't included.
Wow. One texture and that's about it. That's.....well, that's a new one.
Considering all the makeup options, and eye colors and sometimes even nail colors included with the famales I do feel a bit shortchanged.
I still like the character- especially the base texture. But he needs a beard and bodyhair. To give some variety.
Yes. Yes, he does.
Odd thing is, even though that's what the Y-Translate reads, his feet are actually on the "floor". I have no idea what's going on there.
The Y location might be due to him being made via stretching legs, etc. since he's so tall.
When I first saw him I was really excited but as we find out more he just sounds so sloppily put together :(
Daz Originals standards continue to drop.
Oddly enough, it isn't. Scott 6 also came with only one eye color.
There are, I suspect, reasons for that similarity.
He did? I think Scott 6 was the only male genesis 2 I don't have.
What would you suspect the reasons are?
Having looked at the base textures for both, I would be truly astonished if Scott and Leo didn't have the same texture artist.
Interesting.
Still I think no extra eye colours at least is kinda a bummer....especially for the price.
I was expecting that'd be the case, too.
Oh well, disappointment.
Thanks Richard, I just wanted to be absolutely positive.
I think Eva is the other tall character in the G3 line - her trans values are still zero though.
dunno. his arms kinda skinny for a gladiator. a gianni7 would be more gladiator-ish.
Big yes to Gianni 7!!! Make it happen Daz : )
I rarely read those character descriptions, but I found the image on the starter bundle (with Jonas hair and Sophisticate Outfit) more interesting than the Spartan one. Would be nice to see Daz produce age specific characters, male and females in their 40's - 50's, 60's - 70's etc.
I got an answer from customer support
"From our dev team:
This is intentional. Some of the female characters have translation on the hip, where-as Leo has it on the root, the effect and side-affects are the same. This is sometimes needed in order for the head morph to work independently from the body and to be able to combine the head morph with other morphs."
The downside of this would be, if you were to select Edit->Figure->Zero->Zero Figure Pose it would leave poor Leo with his feet in the ground.
You've been blinded by art/hype and misinformation; look at soldiers today, and consider how many of them are truly the muscle-bound individuals you expect? Then think about 2000 years ago, how many of those would be the same, not so damn many. Toned, athletic, sure.
LOL
Not got yet, so is it that bad? Poor guy. :(
Fitness in ancient reece was not the same as it is today. The look was different than the bodybuilder look. Yes, they had buff people but it tended to be barbarians or mythic people like hercules. Greeks were endurance fighters. Some liked to gain extra weight and gladiators sometimes were thick set in the middle to prevent suffering a fatal would.
What was considered attractive is different back then too. Small genitals for example, and oval faces, with straight noses, and less of a ridge there at the brow.
Also, they probably weren't super tall.
I'm pretty sure that the reason he doesn't match proper ancient Greek proportions is the same that Hollywood movies don't have accurate people. They wouldn't seem so impressive to us today when we're taller and know more about fitness, etc. Greek features would have made more sense but he has an interesting face so I'm okay with that.
I'm still refusing to buy despite liking his concept and extra bits on the basis that I don't want to give Daz a sale saying it's okay to make male characters with no texture options when they're clearly necessary (sometimes you need hairy; sometimes you need hairless. Occasionally humans have different eye colours.)
I am not a fan of painted on body hair, it can look okay from a distance with a good displacement map, but up close it will start to look odd. Geometry hair options always look much better. I would rather have a relatively hairless option to start with, as you can add your own hair easily using either LIE overlays, or body hair products. Removing unwanted hair (particularly on the scalpe) is far more difficult.