Show Us Your Iray Renders. Part IV

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  • Jason GalterioJason Galterio Posts: 2,562
    edited December 1969

    The first image I posted in this thread, "Daredevil," had three lights, a relatively large number of objects off screen (Stonemason's Darkside of the City I believe), and was rendered at 1920 x 1080. That took less than 15 minutes to get to a respectable state. The same scene in Reality / Luxrender would have probably taken 4 or 5 hours to get to that point.

    The second image I posted, "Candy Gram!," had 8 lights, a large number of reflective surfaces, one Genesis figure, one Genesis 2 Female, and a fairly large set. It was rendered at 1800 x 1200 in 45 minutes. This same scene would have probably taken 10 to 12 hours to render in Reality / Luxrender.

    So I have seen a significant difference in speed.

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249
    edited December 1969

    Yeah NVIDIA VCA on my never will get wish list ..so far I am proud owner of 2x Titan X SC just arrived one hour ago , going to install it tonight and run Iray for a spin among other programs depended on GPU


    Want to get really silly, or scary (depending on your point of view) throw one or more NVIDIA VCA at a render. (Power roughly equal to 8x TitanX per VCA)

  • DAZ_SpookyDAZ_Spooky Posts: 3,100
    edited December 1969

    MEC4D said:
    Yeah NVIDIA VCA on my never will get wish list ..so far I am proud owner of 2x Titan X SC just arrived one hour ago , going to install it tonight and run Iray for a spin among other programs depended on GPU


    Want to get really silly, or scary (depending on your point of view) throw one or more NVIDIA VCA at a render. (Power roughly equal to 8x TitanX per VCA)

    Don't buy them, rent time on them. LOL.

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249
    edited December 1969

    LOL I hope to the time I can finally use the cloud server what would be much better :p

    MEC4D said:
    Yeah NVIDIA VCA on my never will get wish list ..so far I am proud owner of 2x Titan X SC just arrived one hour ago , going to install it tonight and run Iray for a spin among other programs depended on GPU


    Want to get really silly, or scary (depending on your point of view) throw one or more NVIDIA VCA at a render. (Power roughly equal to 8x TitanX per VCA)

    Don't buy them, rent time on them. LOL.

  • Jason GalterioJason Galterio Posts: 2,562
    edited December 1969

    On a related subject... Has anyone tried the network render option that is listed under advanced? I was tempted to experiment with this last night, but got cold feet.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,841
    edited June 2015

    I will point out that there are a number of simple portrait shots or otherwise uncluttered scenes that take me no more than 10, 15 minutes in Iray. It reeeeeally depends.

    And if you ever experimented with a lot of Uberenvironment and Meshlights in 3Delight, you were seeing rather long render times, too.


    ...I find that Iray in CPU mode renders faster that 3DL with UE. The issue I'm running into is pegging my available memory and the process going into swap mode.
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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,841
    edited December 1969

    lee_lhs said:
    Kyoto Kid said:
    ...board won't support 8GB DIMMs. I need 6 x 4GB.

    If it did then the maximum memory would be rated at 48GB and not 24.

    Also I live in the States and the second one is for Mac. I have a PC.

    You mean, like this?
    http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-4x4GB-Desktop-Memory-CMX16GX3M4A1333C9/dp/B0054KPK9C
    ...board is a tri channel board so 16 GB will end up being no better than 12. Need a full 24 to take advantage of the memory channeling.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,841
    edited December 1969

    mjc1016 said:
    sheedee3D said:

    i think i need a good explanation about these GTX cards...are the renders really faster then with CPU...or is this just a myth?...because from what i can see so far...all the renders that were done with these cards have taken hours to complete...not minutes!...:roll:

    Basically, if those renders actually are using the card (ie the scene fits in the card's memory), then without the GPU acceleration, they would be taking 20 to 40 or so hours to complete...about the same as a non-accelerated Luxrender render of the same scene (Reality/Luxus export) or with the equivalent light (full GI) 3Delight render.

    And yes, a 3 to 5x speed up is typical, with up to 10x or more for some scenes.

    Not just some scenes.

    GPU render speeds are hardware dependent and they definitely scale, presuming that your scene doesn't render so fast the hardware you throw at it doesn't make a difference. Please be aware that the numbers presented below are estimates, and depend on many factors, like actual Motherboard in use, bandwidth available, RAM, speed of your CPU, etc. YMMV.

    If you have a GT 740 with 4GB of RAM and your scene fits on the card, then your render time is likely to be 2-3x your cpu only speed, depending on your CPU (Note this is a low end card, costing about $100.). Now the same scene with 2x GT 740 cards will be 4-6x as fast as cpu only speed. 4x GT 740 cards (Presuming your Motherboard and power supply can handle 4 cards) and you are likely looking at 8-12x the CPU only speed.

    The more hardware you throw at it, the faster it gets. Swap out the GT 740(s) for GTX 980(s), 980Ti(s) or TitanX(s) and watch things really start to fly. (Note each of those cards has more power than the four GT 740 cards combined)

    Want to get really silly, or scary (depending on your point of view) throw one or more NVIDIA VCA at a render. (Power roughly equal to 8x TitanX per VCA)


    ...actually the new workstation design calls for dual Titan-Xs with the provision for two more yielding a total of 12288 cores.

    ...too bad Nvidia doesn't offer a VCA using Titan-Xs instead of Quadro 6000Ms, would be a significant cost reduction as a single 6000M retails for around 5,000$

  • Robert FreiseRobert Freise Posts: 4,572
    edited December 1969

    Kyoto Kid said:
    lee_lhs said:
    Kyoto Kid said:
    ...board won't support 8GB DIMMs. I need 6 x 4GB.

    If it did then the maximum memory would be rated at 48GB and not 24.

    Also I live in the States and the second one is for Mac. I have a PC.

    You mean, like this?
    http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-4x4GB-Desktop-Memory-CMX16GX3M4A1333C9/dp/B0054KPK9C


    ...board is a tri channel board so 16 GB will end up being no better than 12. Need a full 24 to take advantage of the memory channeling.

    Newegg has two 24 gb kits of ddr1600
    Looking online where others have asked about using 1600 instead of 1600 oc and they were told that it was not a problem both would work

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,171
    edited December 1969

    Kyoto Kid said:
    lee_lhs said:
    Kyoto Kid said:
    ...board won't support 8GB DIMMs. I need 6 x 4GB.

    If it did then the maximum memory would be rated at 48GB and not 24.

    Also I live in the States and the second one is for Mac. I have a PC.

    You mean, like this?
    http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-4x4GB-Desktop-Memory-CMX16GX3M4A1333C9/dp/B0054KPK9C


    ...board is a tri channel board so 16 GB will end up being no better than 12. Need a full 24 to take advantage of the memory channeling.My OS (W7x64 Home Premium) will only support 16 GB, so even though my MB can hold more, I'm limited by current OS.
  • SickleYieldSickleYield Posts: 7,649
    edited December 1969

    Yep. It was a bit of a shock when I realized I had to upgrade to the Pro version to use all my new machine's RAM.

  • ScytharScythar Posts: 127
    edited December 1969

    A few first rtyouts...
    Must say i love this engine.

    DeckC(90%).jpg
    1600 x 900 - 887K
    inside1.jpg
    1600 x 900 - 1M
    BeachScene.jpg
    1600 x 900 - 1022K
    Valkyrie.jpg
    1600 x 900 - 474K
  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,841
    edited June 2015

    Kyoto Kid said:
    lee_lhs said:
    Kyoto Kid said:
    ...board won't support 8GB DIMMs. I need 6 x 4GB.

    If it did then the maximum memory would be rated at 48GB and not 24.

    Also I live in the States and the second one is for Mac. I have a PC.

    You mean, like this?
    http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-4x4GB-Desktop-Memory-CMX16GX3M4A1333C9/dp/B0054KPK9C


    ...board is a tri channel board so 16 GB will end up being no better than 12. Need a full 24 to take advantage of the memory channeling.

    Newegg has two 24 gb kits of ddr1600
    Looking online where others have asked about using 1600 instead of 1600 oc and they were told that it was not a problem both would work

    ...so then why would the Board manufacturer just specify the three types I listed? Part of the time I took to study designing a system was about why component compatibility is so important.

    The two overclocked ratings listed were only 1866 and 2000.

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,841
    edited December 1969

    barbult said:
    Kyoto Kid said:
    lee_lhs said:
    Kyoto Kid said:
    ...board won't support 8GB DIMMs. I need 6 x 4GB.

    If it did then the maximum memory would be rated at 48GB and not 24.

    Also I live in the States and the second one is for Mac. I have a PC.

    You mean, like this?
    http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-4x4GB-Desktop-Memory-CMX16GX3M4A1333C9/dp/B0054KPK9C


    ...board is a tri channel board so 16 GB will end up being no better than 12. Need a full 24 to take advantage of the memory channeling.My OS (W7x64 Home Premium) will only support 16 GB, so even though my MB can hold more, I'm limited by current OS.
    ...however is your board Dual Channel which can support up to 32 GB?

    I too have Win7 Home and will be upgrading to WIn7 Pro so I can get the extra memory.

  • Robert FreiseRobert Freise Posts: 4,572
    edited December 1969

    Kyoto Kid said:
    Kyoto Kid said:
    lee_lhs said:
    Kyoto Kid said:
    ...board won't support 8GB DIMMs. I need 6 x 4GB.

    If it did then the maximum memory would be rated at 48GB and not 24.

    Also I live in the States and the second one is for Mac. I have a PC.

    You mean, like this?
    http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-4x4GB-Desktop-Memory-CMX16GX3M4A1333C9/dp/B0054KPK9C


    ...board is a tri channel board so 16 GB will end up being no better than 12. Need a full 24 to take advantage of the memory channeling.

    Newegg has two 24 gb kits of ddr1600
    Looking online where others have asked about using 1600 instead of 1600 oc and they were told that it was not a problem both would work

    ...so then why would the Board manufacturer just specify the three types I listed? Part of the time I took to study designing a system was about why component compatibility is so important.

    The two overclocked ratings listed were only 1866 and 2000.

    From what I saw online they said the reason was to show that it supported each one from the base to the OC version
    Must have misread
    Is this your mb https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P6T/

  • DAZ_SpookyDAZ_Spooky Posts: 3,100
    edited December 1969

    Legionair said:
    On a related subject... Has anyone tried the network render option that is listed under advanced? I was tempted to experiment with this last night, but got cold feet.
    Only connects to one or more VCA at this time. There are a couple of foibles with it at the moment. If you have one or more VCA available, drop me a note and we will see if we can get it set up for you.
  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001
    edited December 1969

    Kyoto Kid said:
    lee_lhs said:
    Kyoto Kid said:
    ...board won't support 8GB DIMMs. I need 6 x 4GB.

    If it did then the maximum memory would be rated at 48GB and not 24.

    Also I live in the States and the second one is for Mac. I have a PC.

    You mean, like this?
    http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-4x4GB-Desktop-Memory-CMX16GX3M4A1333C9/dp/B0054KPK9C


    ...board is a tri channel board so 16 GB will end up being no better than 12. Need a full 24 to take advantage of the memory channeling.

    Yes and no...

    It's best to match all 6 slots, exactly, (6 of the same sticks). But, as long as the timings are close matching pairs (dual channels) or tris (tri channel) works. In other words, you have two sets of three...

    Also, it will, if the memory timings in BIOS are set to 'auto' run at the speed of the slower set.

  • Robert FreiseRobert Freise Posts: 4,572
    edited December 1969

    [quote author="Kyoto Kid" .

    A little more info on this site for oc memory

    http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php/700453-Noob-Question-Mobo-Memory-Requirements

  • Jason GalterioJason Galterio Posts: 2,562
    edited December 1969

    Legionair said:
    On a related subject... Has anyone tried the network render option that is listed under advanced? I was tempted to experiment with this last night, but got cold feet.
    Only connects to one or more VCA at this time. There are a couple of foibles with it at the moment. If you have one or more VCA available, drop me a note and we will see if we can get it set up for you.

    In that case it is probably no use to me. I thought it worked like Luxrender's slave console. Where I could set up another computer on my network to process.

    Not a big deal, but current workflow processes are geared around this anyway.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,841
    edited June 2015

    From what I saw online they said the reason was to show that it supported each one from the base to the OC version
    Must have misread
    Is this your mb https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P6T/

    ...this is the one i have (tracked through my order history)

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131359

    The box is different than the one pictured on the ASUS site (dark blue) Part # 90-MIB720-G0AAY00Z.

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  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,343
    edited June 2015

    Yep. It was a bit of a shock when I realized I had to upgrade to the Pro version to use all my new machine's RAM.

    Does this include Home Win 8/8.1 as well??

    OK, found my answer.. Tom's Hardware forums:

    x64 128GB on non-Pro,
    x64 512GB on Pro.
    x86 of any version is limited to 4GB.

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  • SickleYieldSickleYield Posts: 7,649
    edited December 1969

    RAMWolff said:
    Yep. It was a bit of a shock when I realized I had to upgrade to the Pro version to use all my new machine's RAM.

    Does this include Home Win 8/8.1 as well??

    No, as it turns out. It has limits but they're much higher. https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa366778(v=vs.85).aspx#physical_memory_limits_windows_8

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,841
    edited June 2015


    ...they are already talking about MBs that list 1600MHz as one of the set memory speeds. Would be nice if I was sure about mine as there is a Corsair 24 GB kit for only 189$.

    I wonder if I can find this out in the BIOS Settings?

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,841
    edited June 2015

    RAMWolff said:
    Yep. It was a bit of a shock when I realized I had to upgrade to the Pro version to use all my new machine's RAM.

    Does this include Home Win 8/8.1 as well??
    ...Win 8/8.1 Home Edition supports up to 128 GB of physical memory. Same for the forthcoming Win 10 Home Edition.

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  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,343
    edited December 1969

    RAMWolff said:
    Yep. It was a bit of a shock when I realized I had to upgrade to the Pro version to use all my new machine's RAM.

    Does this include Home Win 8/8.1 as well??

    No, as it turns out. It has limits but they're much higher. https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa366778(v=vs.85).aspx#physical_memory_limits_windows_8

    Yea, just updated my post above yours! :-)

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,841
    edited December 1969

    ...I get a "Page Cannot Be Found" error. so I just Googled Win 8 memory limits.

  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,343
    edited December 1969

    Kyoto Kid said:
    ...I get a "Page Cannot Be Found" error. so I just Googled Win 8 memory limits.
    that's because the auto link thing here at the forums cut the link in half, if you notice the rest of the link starts after the ) so all that has to be selected too. I run Firefox so I just select all of it and right click and "Open link in new tab" ....
  • MusicplayerMusicplayer Posts: 515
    edited December 1969

    For some reason Grandad always looked rough before that first morning coffee :lol:

    Trying out G2M creature morphs that are on sale http://www.daz3d.com/creature-creator-hd-for-genesis-2-male-s and the new Edit Hair http://www.daz3d.com/edit-hair-for-genesis-2-males.

    :-)

    Grandad_Creature.png
    1038 x 1200 - 2M
  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249
    edited December 1969

    lol !

    For some reason Grandad always looked rough before that first morning coffee :lol:

    Trying out G2M creature morphs that are on sale http://www.daz3d.com/creature-creator-hd-for-genesis-2-male-s and the new Edit Hair http://www.daz3d.com/edit-hair-for-genesis-2-males.

    :-)

  • MusicplayerMusicplayer Posts: 515
    edited December 1969

    Scythar said:
    A few first rtyouts...
    Must say i love this engine.

    Hi Scythar,
    Some nice renders for a first tryout. I like the beach scene, and the lighting on the "Inside1" render.
    Iray certainly is a great render engine. :)

    Cheers :-)

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