The new Centaur 'n stuff thread - reloaded

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  • Hemi426Hemi426 Posts: 64
    I have Harry and completed a morph for a G8 centaur in hexagon. However, there are still some issues. Daz screws up the rigging when I save and reload the figure. Plus I do not know if there are unused morph channels in the cr2 that I can use for a morph injection.
  • WillowRavenWillowRaven Posts: 2,767

    How well would that translate to v4 or m4?

  • Hemi426Hemi426 Posts: 64

    V4/Harry is in progress. For Poser it is a quite simple process, but I will require some assistance for Studio.

  • WillowRavenWillowRaven Posts: 2,767
    Hemi426 said:

    V4/Harry is in progress. For Poser it is a quite simple process, but I will require some assistance for Studio.

    I wouldn't know how to help ... but at least I finally went from DS4.7 to 4.10, lol.

  • Hemi426Hemi426 Posts: 64
    I have the morphed body parts (neck2, neck, chest2, chest, lshldr, rshldr) of the Hivewire horse as obj. In Poser the can be used to create the morphs. Creating an INJ pose using the. pmd file is possible. How would this be done in Studio to legally distribute the morph?
  • SadKitty_CarraraSadKitty_Carrara Posts: 21,039
    edited July 11
    Hemi426 said:
    I have the morphed body parts (neck2, neck, chest2, chest, lshldr, rshldr) of the Hivewire horse as obj. In Poser the can be used to create the morphs. Creating an INJ pose using the. pmd file is possible. How would this be done in Studio to legally distribute the morph?

    Use Morphloader to import obj

    Under edit adjust rigging to figure shape

    rightclick the obscure little hamburger menu icon in parameters choose edit mode select the morph

    under that menu pick and run ERC freeze

    save as asset morph and find it in the list tree that pops up and tick it

    you can share the dsf file created in the data folder under your name

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  • Hemi426Hemi426 Posts: 64
    edited July 11

    Use Morphloader to import obj

    Under edit adjust rigging to figure shape

    rightclick the obscure little hamburger menu icon in parameters choose edit mode select the morph

    under that menu pick and run ERC freeze

    save as asset morph and find it in the list tree that pops up and tick it

    you can share the dsf file created in the data folder under your name

    Morphloader Pro or Advanced? If the scaling is ok for Poser, will it be ok for Studio? I exported with factor 100 from Poser und imported with 0.01 from Hexagon (damn scaling bug!).

    I will try it later, thank you!

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  • SadKitty_CarraraSadKitty_Carrara Posts: 21,039
    Hemi426 said:

    WUse Morphloader to import obj

    Under edit adjust rigging to figure shape

    rightclick the obscure little hamburger menu icon in parameters choose edit mode select the morph

    under that menu pick and run ERC freeze

    save as asset morph and find it in the list tree that pops up and tick it

    you can share the dsf file created in the data folder under your name

    Morphloader Pro or Advanced? If the scaling is ok for Poser, will it be ok for Studio? I exported with factor 100 from Poser und imported with 0.01 from Hexagon (damn scaling bug!).

    I will try it later, thank you!

    Doesn’t matter but yes choose Poser scale if obj is

  • SadKitty_CarraraSadKitty_Carrara Posts: 21,039

    Oh and do this on the duf file not the Poser format

  • LasserineLasserine Posts: 27

    Thank you for doing this Hemi.

  • Hemi426Hemi426 Posts: 64
    edited July 11

    Oh and do this on the duf file not the Poser format

    The problem is, that the morph files only work on the poser format. On the duf file I get a "Vertex count mismatch in Morph Loader". I tested morph loader advanced and pro in base and high resolution, the meshes of poser and studio version look identical.

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  • WillowRavenWillowRaven Posts: 2,767

     

    Hemi426 said:

    The problem is, that the morph files only work on the poser format. On the duf file I get a "Vertex count mismatch in Morph Loader". I tested morph loader advanced and pro in base and high resolution, the meshes of poser and studio version look identical.

    So it will work in Daz but under the poser content tab?

  • SadKitty_CarraraSadKitty_Carrara Posts: 21,039
    Hemi426 said:

    Oh and do this on the duf file not the Poser format

    The problem is, that the morph files only work on the poser format. On the duf file I get a "Vertex count mismatch in Morph Loader". I tested morph loader advanced and pro in base and high resolution, the meshes of poser and studio version look identical.

    Oh dear now then I can’t help

  • Hemi426Hemi426 Posts: 64
    edited July 11

     

    Hemi426 said:

    The problem is, that the morph files only work on the poser format. On the duf file I get a "Vertex count mismatch in Morph Loader". I tested morph loader advanced and pro in base and high resolution, the meshes of poser and studio version look identical.

    So it will work in Daz but under the poser content tab?

    No, the poser pmd file won't inject in DAZ and the other method doesn't work on the poser model. I will not do the process of morphing again on what appears to be the same mesh. I cannot see any difference and am pretty frustrated at the moment.

    Edit:Maybe I found a way, will check it tomorrow.
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  • KeryaKerya Posts: 9,575

    Uhm ... I this one is very outdated (DS 4.6), used Dawn and I never uploaded it on Sharecg ... but maybe it still works?

    http://www.mediafire.com/file/w31lg0rpmdr5ogc/PMDInjectionToDazStudioMorphMorphLoaderPro.pdf

     

  • Hemi426Hemi426 Posts: 64
    Kerya said:

    Uhm ... I this one is very outdated (DS 4.6), used Dawn and I never uploaded it on Sharecg ... but maybe it still works?

    http://www.mediafire.com/file/w31lg0rpmdr5ogc/PMDInjectionToDazStudioMorphMorphLoaderPro.pdf

     

    Thank you for your ssistance, but I think I found a workflow.

    I tried opening the Poser cr2 with the morph applied in Studio (only the horse). Then I switched it to Triax Weight mapping. I loaded the DS version of Harry, switched it to base resolution and tried to transfer the morph with the transfer utility (only the morph). But then Studio crashed every time I tried.

    So I exported the shape of the cr2 horse as OBJ with DAZ scaling and used this with morph loader pro on the DAZ version. This worked! If I save the morph as asset, it can be distributed, right?

    Proof of concept, V4 left, G8 right:

     

     

     

     

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  • SadKitty_CarraraSadKitty_Carrara Posts: 21,039

    Yes the duf morph is able to be redistributed 

    just set up a matching data folder structure with the dsf in it

  • LasserineLasserine Posts: 27

    Hemi those look great.  Will it also work on Gen 3 ?

  • Hemi426Hemi426 Posts: 64
    Lasserine said:

    Hemi those look great.  Will it also work on Gen 3 ?

    Yes, as Genesis 8 and 3 have the same base mesh. But you'll need the Genesis 8 Female Body Morphs res. the G3 Version.

  • WillowRavenWillowRaven Posts: 2,767
    Hemi426 said:

    Proof of concept, V4 left, G8 right:

    This is looking awesome ... I'm all over the v4/harry centaur. Will you be doing m4 and k4 versions, too?

  • Hemi426Hemi426 Posts: 64
    edited July 16
    M4 should be possible, K4 is not planned because I do not have the K4 morphs. Is there a hivewire horse foal? Edit: I just discovered the foal
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  • WillowRavenWillowRaven Posts: 2,767
    Hemi426 said:
    M4 should be possible, K4 is not planned because I do not have the K4 morphs. Is there a hivewire horse foal? Edit: I just discovered the foal

    I'm super-excited about this as a possibility for me. Is the v4/m4 going to be an available product somewhere? If LAMH could also be incorporated, I'd pay lots of money for the combo.

  • Hemi426Hemi426 Posts: 64
    Hemi426 said:
    M4 should be possible, K4 is not planned because I do not have the K4 morphs. Is there a hivewire horse foal? Edit: I just discovered the foal

    I'm super-excited about this as a possibility for me. Is the v4/m4 going to be an available product somewhere? If LAMH could also be incorporated, I'd pay lots of money for the combo.

    Keep in mind that this is not a professional product and it will be free. So it has it's limitations.Horse poses that bend, twist oder side-side the neck2 will result in poke through but by resetting these dials this can be compensated. The same will happen for poses that affect the lower body of the human figure.

    Here's a WIP (Victoria 4.2 on HiveWire Horse).

     

     

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  • WillowRavenWillowRaven Posts: 2,767

    Very exciting, all the same  :)

  • Hemi426Hemi426 Posts: 64
    edited July 17
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  • WillowRavenWillowRaven Posts: 2,767

    Woohoo! Can't wait till I have time to play with it. If someone gifted you with the k4 morphs, so you could create a k4/harrry foal model, what exactly would you need?

  • Hemi426Hemi426 Posts: 64
    This pic turned out quite nicely, I think. I downloaded the Hivewire Horse again, found the iray shaders and converted the bump map to a normal map. About the foal: Actually I purchased the Kids4 years ago. But I do not have the foal morph, So I cannot tell if it will work with the current morph. But as the shape, especially of the neck area, is quite different, it might be easier to start from scratch.
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  • CWRWCWRW Posts: 72

    Nice!!!! Great image overall and I am really loving how the "Harry" part looks! Great job!

  • WillowRavenWillowRaven Posts: 2,767
    Hemi426 said:
    This pic turned out quite nicely, I think. I downloaded the Hivewire Horse again, found the iray shaders and converted the bump map to a normal map. About the foal: Actually I purchased the Kids4 years ago. But I do not have the foal morph, So I cannot tell if it will work with the current morph. But as the shape, especially of the neck area, is quite different, it might be easier to start from scratch.

    Your harry centaur looks so natural :)

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 7,700
    Hemi426 said:
    This pic turned out quite nicely, I think. I downloaded the Hivewire Horse again, found the iray shaders and converted the bump map to a normal map. About the foal: Actually I purchased the Kids4 years ago. But I do not have the foal morph, So I cannot tell if it will work with the current morph. But as the shape, especially of the neck area, is quite different, it might be easier to start from scratch.

    Great image!

    Good to see you back! I have been using your old versions forever since i hate the hight transition between horse and figure on the official DAZ centaur.

    Looking forward to anything new you come up with for the newer figure!

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