Mid-way through 2022 a new Sales Thread:Report Issues Here "There's Always Another Sale™"

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  • I'm kinda confused by the Featured Artists discounts from today's Scottish Highlands sale. The text says:

    40% OFF Featured Artist Stores

    Get an EXTRA 20% OFF when you buy any 2 Featured New Releases 
    Get an EXTRA 40% OFF when you buy any 3+ Featured New Releases

    I have three Featured New Releases in my basket, plus a few items from the Featured Artists stores… but the Featured Artists items only show a 64% discount, not an 80% discount. Surely 40% plus an extra 40% should be 80%?

    Oh: unless it's calculated as 100% * 0.6 * 0.6, i.e. a 40% discount off the first 40%-discounted price? That would bring it to a 64% discount, which matches my basket, but feels kinda disingenuous; I'd totally expected that "40% plus an EXTRA 40%" whould mean an 80% discount.

    - Dave

  • KeryaKerya Posts: 10,943

    d2houdini said:

    I'm kinda confused by the Featured Artists discounts from today's Scottish Highlands sale. The text says:

    40% OFF Featured Artist Stores

    Get an EXTRA 20% OFF when you buy any 2 Featured New Releases 
    Get an EXTRA 40% OFF when you buy any 3+ Featured New Releases

    I have three Featured New Releases in my basket, plus a few items from the Featured Artists stores… but the Featured Artists items only show a 64% discount, not an 80% discount. Surely 40% plus an extra 40% should be 80%?

    Oh: unless it's calculated as 100% * 0.6 * 0.6, i.e. a 40% discount off the first 40%-discounted price? That would bring it to a 64% discount, which matches my basket, but feels kinda disingenuous; I'd totally expected that "40% plus an EXTRA 40%" whould mean an 80% discount.

    - Dave

     

    That is the usual Daz math - congratulations for figuring out yourself! (No irony or sarcasm - I really mean that.)

  • Kerya said:

    That is the usual Daz math - congratulations for figuring out yourself! (No irony or sarcasm - I really mean that.)

    Hah! Thank you. I figured it must have worked that way, given that the numbers worked out so precisely. I'll know not to get too excited by extra bonus discounts in the future smiley

    – Dave

  • namffuaknamffuak Posts: 4,422

    d2houdini said:

    Kerya said:

    That is the usual Daz math - congratulations for figuring out yourself! (No irony or sarcasm - I really mean that.)

    Hah! Thank you. I figured it must have worked that way, given that the numbers worked out so precisely. I'll know not to get too excited by extra bonus discounts in the future smiley

    – Dave

    This is the way all such multiple discounts work. Several decades (!) ago, I bought a set of towels at a Macy's white goods sale. There were three discounts in play: 25%, for opening a new account; 40% white goods sale; 50% discontinued merchandise. The original total was around $120. The first two cashiers tried applying all three to the initial price - 0.25 X 120 = 30 (25% off); 0.40 X 120 = 48 ( 40% off); and 0.50 X 120 = 60 (50% off) and final total was 120 - 60 - 48 - 30 = -18. There was consternation - "This can't be right! He gets a new account and the towels and we owe him $18!" It took a senior cashier half an hour to straighten them out "50% off $120 is $60, leaving $60; 40% off $60 is $24, leaving $36; and 25% off $36 is $9, leaving $27 - so he owes us $27".

    (At that particular time of my life, I would have cheerfully taken the towels and the eighteen bucks and left.I was opening the account not for the additional nine dollars, but to be able to spread the payment out over three months.)

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 12,799
    edited October 2022

    namffuak said:

    d2houdini said:

    Kerya said:

    That is the usual Daz math - congratulations for figuring out yourself! (No irony or sarcasm - I really mean that.)

    Hah! Thank you. I figured it must have worked that way, given that the numbers worked out so precisely. I'll know not to get too excited by extra bonus discounts in the future smiley

    – Dave

    This is the way all such multiple discounts work. Several decades (!) ago, I bought a set of towels at a Macy's white goods sale. There were three discounts in play: 25%, for opening a new account; 40% white goods sale; 50% discontinued merchandise. The original total was around $120. The first two cashiers tried applying all three to the initial price - 0.25 X 120 = 30 (25% off); 0.40 X 120 = 48 ( 40% off); and 0.50 X 120 = 60 (50% off) and final total was 120 - 60 - 48 - 30 = -18. There was consternation - "This can't be right! He gets a new account and the towels and we owe him $18!" It took a senior cashier half an hour to straighten them out "50% off $120 is $60, leaving $60; 40% off $60 is $24, leaving $36; and 25% off $36 is $9, leaving $27 - so he owes us $27".

    (At that particular time of my life, I would have cheerfully taken the towels and the eighteen bucks and left.I was opening the account not for the additional nine dollars, but to be able to spread the payment out over three months.)

    It's always funny for me to see people calling that "Daz math". That's how I've been taught math, and how sales and additional discounts have been working in shops here for as long as I can remember.

    Granted, my school days are long past, but I'd expect they still teach people how to stack discounts (though that is a part of math which is actually useful in real life, so maybe not....)

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  • frank0314frank0314 Posts: 14,723
    edited October 2022

    d2houdini said:

    I'm kinda confused by the Featured Artists discounts from today's Scottish Highlands sale. The text says:

    40% OFF Featured Artist Stores

    Get an EXTRA 20% OFF when you buy any 2 Featured New Releases 
    Get an EXTRA 40% OFF when you buy any 3+ Featured New Releases

    I have three Featured New Releases in my basket, plus a few items from the Featured Artists stores… but the Featured Artists items only show a 64% discount, not an 80% discount. Surely 40% plus an extra 40% should be 80%?

    Oh: unless it's calculated as 100% * 0.6 * 0.6, i.e. a 40% discount off the first 40%-discounted price? That would bring it to a 64% discount, which matches my basket, but feels kinda disingenuous; I'd totally expected that "40% plus an EXTRA 40%" whould mean an 80% discount.

    - Dave

    Discounts don't work that way and has nothing to do with "Daz math" as suggested. That is how ALL sales "typically" work in the retail market on this planet. If in a sale it is 50% off and you are going to get an extra 60% off with a coupon you aren't going to get 110% off in which they would owe you money if they were added together at face value.

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  • I am also having issues with CB Arceli  the hand deforms badly when making a fist

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  • Cris PalominoCris Palomino Posts: 12,538
    edited October 2022

    michealwhaley said:

    I am also having issues with CB Arceli  the hand deforms badly when making a fist

    Did you put in a ticket in addition to reporting here?

    Post edited by Cris Palomino on
  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 3,037

    frank0314 said:

    That is how ALL sales work in the retail market on this planet.

    I bet you can deliver a valid and trustworthy source for that claim, right?

    Especially because it's a "ALL ON THIS PLANET" statement, which usually are utterly wrong, due to the world being an effing big place with shiploads of people around and so many different countries with different laws, traditions and rules/regulations for about everything.

    Especially this "it's not DAZland math - it's working the same everywhere" might be have to looked at a bit mor critically, as there have been and sometimes still are sales at DAZland that in fact do work different and take the additional % off from the base price, adding them to a sum with other reductions, which really make it (for example) 30% + 20% = 50% off. This alone negates that "ALL ON THE PLANET" rule you claimed.

    Then we just might take a look at the forum here, just to see that a quite large % of the customers/people posting here their astonishment about DAZland % math seem to expect it to work different. Sometimes probably erronous, but at other times validated by personal experience, from deals done with other shops - online or off - that do not use this DAZland "worldwide" style of math. The sheer amount of people stating that they expected these deals to work differently proves for me, that DAZland maths isn't really a worldwide "rule of how to add %" but maybe only one used and taught in the USofA. Like Common Core.

    So please refrain from using these "the whole world", or "everybody knows" or "it is known that" argumentations. Unless you can deliver sources. Thank you.

  • Cris PalominoCris Palomino Posts: 12,538

    maikdecker said:

    frank0314 said:

    That is how ALL sales work in the retail market on this planet.

    I bet you can deliver a valid and trustworthy source for that claim, right?

    Especially because it's a "ALL ON THIS PLANET" statement, which usually are utterly wrong, due to the world being an effing big place with shiploads of people around and so many different countries with different laws, traditions and rules/regulations for about everything.

    Especially this "it's not DAZland math - it's working the same everywhere" might be have to looked at a bit mor critically, as there have been and sometimes still are sales at DAZland that in fact do work different and take the additional % off from the base price, adding them to a sum with other reductions, which really make it (for example) 30% + 20% = 50% off. This alone negates that "ALL ON THE PLANET" rule you claimed.

    Then we just might take a look at the forum here, just to see that a quite large % of the customers/people posting here their astonishment about DAZland % math seem to expect it to work different. Sometimes probably erronous, but at other times validated by personal experience, from deals done with other shops - online or off - that do not use this DAZland "worldwide" style of math. The sheer amount of people stating that they expected these deals to work differently proves for me, that DAZland maths isn't really a worldwide "rule of how to add %" but maybe only one used and taught in the USofA. Like Common Core.

    So please refrain from using these "the whole world", or "everybody knows" or "it is known that" argumentations. Unless you can deliver sources. Thank you.

    This is the sales calculator I use since it's just business math and the way sales work.  https://www.omnicalculator.com/finance/triple-discount

  • frank0314frank0314 Posts: 14,723
    edited October 2022

    maikdecker said:

    frank0314 said:

    That is how ALL sales work in the retail market on this planet.

    I bet you can deliver a valid and trustworthy source for that claim, right?

    Especially because it's a "ALL ON THIS PLANET" statement, which usually are utterly wrong, due to the world being an effing big place with shiploads of people around and so many different countries with different laws, traditions and rules/regulations for about everything.

    Especially this "it's not DAZland math - it's working the same everywhere" might be have to looked at a bit mor critically, as there have been and sometimes still are sales at DAZland that in fact do work different and take the additional % off from the base price, adding them to a sum with other reductions, which really make it (for example) 30% + 20% = 50% off. This alone negates that "ALL ON THE PLANET" rule you claimed.

    Then we just might take a look at the forum here, just to see that a quite large % of the customers/people posting here their astonishment about DAZland % math seem to expect it to work different. Sometimes probably erronous, but at other times validated by personal experience, from deals done with other shops - online or off - that do not use this DAZland "worldwide" style of math. The sheer amount of people stating that they expected these deals to work differently proves for me, that DAZland maths isn't really a worldwide "rule of how to add %" but maybe only one used and taught in the USofA. Like Common Core.

    So please refrain from using these "the whole world", or "everybody knows" or "it is known that" argumentations. Unless you can deliver sources. Thank you.

    I added ina word to clearafy it more since you seem to take it in a literal sense. I didn't realize we were in English class, lol. No it just means that people don't understand how percentages off a price means, that's all. Please provide me info that will allow 50% off with an addition 60% off means you get it for free and they owe you money. Wouldn't be in buisness any longer given the logic. There are the occasional one off sales that will compound the % off as a promotion. Nothing more than something to generate business. It defenatly wouldn't equate to any more than 50-60% typically off in those sales.

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  • alienareaalienarea Posts: 536

    Cris Palomino said:

    michealwhaley said:

    I am also having issues with CB Arceli  the hand deforms badly when making a fist

    Did you put in a ticket in addition to reporting here?

    I logged a CS ticket last Friday. No reply at all. Today I had an update in DIM. Installed it. Fingers still deforming.

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,313

    Z Dog Poses for Daz Dog 8

    When I first saw this, I assumed they were by Zeddicuss because of the "Z" and because they're poses, but they're not.  Why Daz?

  • KeryaKerya Posts: 10,943

    Sevrin said:

    Z Dog Poses for Daz Dog 8

    When I first saw this, I assumed they were by Zeddicuss because of the "Z" and because they're poses, but they're not.  Why Daz?

     

    Z for Zombie?

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,313

    Richard Haseltine said:

    https://www.wikihow.com/Multiply-or-Divide-Two-Percentages

    Maybe not the best illustration of how stacked discounts work. 

    May I suggest 

    Stackable Discounts

     

  • DarkS474DarkS474 Posts: 154
    edited October 2022

    This product has the Interactive License option but :

    https://www.daz3d.com/auto-face-enhancer-skin-hd-details-for-genesis-8-females

    ... it requires this other product:

    https://www.daz3d.com/auto-face-enhancer

    Which doesn't have the Interactive License option. And so the bundle with another product is without the Interactive License as well:

    https://www.daz3d.com/auto-face-enhancer-genesis-8-female-s-bundle

    The first product this way is unusable in any game requiring another product that can't be used at all due to the lack of the needed license.

     

    The Male version of the same product instead.. the bundle doesn't have the Interactive License option but all the three products included feature that:

    https://www.daz3d.com/auto-face-enhancer-genesis-8-males-bundle

    So I don't get why just both bundles don't have the Interactive License option and all products be usable in games ?

    What is the purpose of such nonsense ? Either the products would be allowed to be used in games or not. This way they can't be used or paid a lot more for the male license without the bundle having the option, and the female just can't be used.

    Maybe you'll get it fixed allowing to buy the Interactive License on both bundles for all products included.

     

     

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  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 3,037

    frank0314 said:

    I added ina word to clearafy it more since you seem to take it in a literal sense. I didn't realize we were in English class, lol.

    Well, as you even used capital letters for the ALL - "That is how ALL sales work in the retail market on this planet." - it invited to be taken literally. Because it's literally false. Had it been a "That's how sales usually work yadda yadda yadda" you wouldn't have gotten an response on that claim. And that added word doesn't really make Your claim really more true in the end. But it's time to end the English class... held by a german...

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,342
    edited October 2022

    Sevrin said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    https://www.wikihow.com/Multiply-or-Divide-Two-Percentages

    Maybe not the best illustration of how stacked discounts work. 

    May I suggest 

    Stackable Discounts

     

    Never mind.

     

    Can't delete the stupid image!!!

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  • XelloszXellosz Posts: 855

    Gen 9 is under Gen 8?

    Example: https://www.daz3d.com/genesis-9-body-shapes

    Another interesting thing:

    Genesis 9 Body Shapes Merchant Resource

    Inactive 

  • d2houdinid2houdini Posts: 34
    edited October 2022

    Looks like I opened a can of worms with my stacked discounts query – apologies for that! I appreciate the confirmations / links, and I'm glad to hear my guess interpretation was correct.

    TBH, It's one of those things that makes perfect sense as soon as you understand it, but is confusing as heck when you first read it on a promo page. Thanks all for the extra info.

    – Dave

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  • Catherine3678abCatherine3678ab Posts: 8,556
    edited October 2022

    DanaTA said:

    Sevrin said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    https://www.wikihow.com/Multiply-or-Divide-Two-Percentages

    Maybe not the best illustration of how stacked discounts work. 

    May I suggest 

    Stackable Discounts

     

    Never mind.

     

    Can't delete the stupid image!!!

    To delete images, when you're in edit mode, and click on Delete ... and it goes to that stupid page of code, if I'm recalling correctly, use the browser back button and save the changes. The image should be gone. If it wasn't that way, then I was just closing the page of code. One way or the other, the image should then be gone.

     

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  • Cris PalominoCris Palomino Posts: 12,538

    Xellosz said:

    Gen 9 is under Gen 8?

    Example: https://www.daz3d.com/genesis-9-body-shapes

    Another interesting thing:

    Genesis 9 Body Shapes Merchant Resource

    Inactive 

    Will report thenuse of Genesis 8. The MRs were for PAs only. 

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,612

    The new Mega Demos figure claims that it requires Cyber Killer W Bundle.

  • Cris PalominoCris Palomino Posts: 12,538

    Gordig said:

    The new Mega Demos figure claims that it requires Cyber Killer W Bundle.

     Thanks, will advise Daz.

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,393

    Gordig said:

    The new Mega Demos figure claims that it requires Cyber Killer W Bundle.

    Also confused by this

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,393
    edited October 2022

    Coupon is Not Valid message when trying to use the CHILL-OUT coupon

    Never mind.  I was confused by the location of the coupon announcement, the items I chose, and the actual items lower down on the page.

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  • JoeQuickJoeQuick Posts: 1,729
    edited October 2022

    Diomede said:

    Gordig said:

    The new Mega Demos figure claims that it requires Cyber Killer W Bundle.

    Also confused by this

    It does not require the cyber killer w bundle 

    He also probably shouldn't wear shoes.

    Post edited by JoeQuick on
  • ChatjdChatjd Posts: 152

    The extra savings discounts on the Mega Demos bundle is either worded badly or not working correctly.  The starting percentage off is 51% (Daz+) which brings the cost to $29.40. I own the Victoria 9 Mega Bundle, so would get the extra 13% off or bring the cost to $25.57 (13% of $29.40).  I also own both the Victoria 9 Brave Highlander Bundle and the Victoria 9 Medieval Warrior Bundle so should get the extra 8% off.  So following Daz math or stacking discounts I should see $23.53 in the cart but get $25.57.  So, it looks like the extra savings on the "Victoria 9 Brave Highlander Bundle or the Victoria 9 Medieval Warrior Bundle" 8% is not applying. Are buyers supposed to be able to get both discounts or should there be a big "OR" between the 13% and 8% offers that you can only get one?

    Initial Cost  
    $59.99  
    $30.59 51% Discount
    $29.40  
       
    $29.40  
    $3.82 13% Discount
    $25.57  
       
    $25.57  
    $2.05 8% Discount
    $23.53  

     

  • Cris PalominoCris Palomino Posts: 12,538

    Chatjd said:

    The extra savings discounts on the Mega Demos bundle is either worded badly or not working correctly.  The starting percentage off is 51% (Daz+) which brings the cost to $29.40. I own the Victoria 9 Mega Bundle, so would get the extra 13% off or bring the cost to $25.57 (13% of $29.40).  I also own both the Victoria 9 Brave Highlander Bundle and the Victoria 9 Medieval Warrior Bundle so should get the extra 8% off.  So following Daz math or stacking discounts I should see $23.53 in the cart but get $25.57.  So, it looks like the extra savings on the "Victoria 9 Brave Highlander Bundle or the Victoria 9 Medieval Warrior Bundle" 8% is not applying. Are buyers supposed to be able to get both discounts or should there be a big "OR" between the 13% and 8% offers that you can only get one?

    Initial Cost  
    $59.99  
    $30.59 51% Discount
    $29.40  
       
    $29.40  
    $3.82 13% Discount
    $25.57  
       
    $25.57  
    $2.05 8% Discount
    $23.53  

     

     I will enquire.

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