Total Surprise: I have Diabetes Type 2

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  • hacsarthacsart Posts: 2,025

    I'm 72 and so far so good.. feet are good, no neuropathy, I keep on them for foot cracks and dry skin. Eyes are OK, yearly opthamologist checks.  As far as Insulin goes I started ount with NPH, now on a combo of Basaglar as a basl insulin and a Novorapid to cover meals. Testing 3 times a day or more if needed.. Last AiC was 6.9.

    AgitatedRiot said:

    I had to carry glucagon for a while. When first find out your sugar can have a lot of lows and highs when first starting on insulin Your eyesight may go wonky for a bit also due to the insulin. So if your eyesight gets a little worst even with glasses don't freak out. You may want to see an ophthalmologist, to see if there is any damage to the blood vessel in the eyes. 

    How about your feet how do they feel?

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 17,956
    edited May 2022

    Get Well.

    I would read up on the literature for your condition and see if you can eradicate it by diet change. e.g. I normally have low blood pressure but as I age I gained weight until in the last year my blood pressure finally starting crossing the borderline high blood pressure range which, even though it's not spelled out, must be high blood pressure for me since my blood pressure is normally low. Anyway, I started dieting to loose weight and walking weekdays at least 2 miles or more, weighing myself, taking my temperature, taking my pulse, and finally taking my blood pressure every day and over the course of the past 5 months my blood pressure is dropping to the normal low range for me and also my pulse rate is dropping for back to the normal range for me after getting what I felt for me was quite high.  

    I am not sure which of the diabetes is the type treatable by diet but if you have the diet treatable type you can save yourself a lot of complications with your diet.

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  • Calliope23Calliope23 Posts: 454

    I feel your pain, Ron. I'm in my 40's and weigh close to 300 pounds. I have been pre-diabetic for years, and I take Metformin and cholesterol medication. I have arthritis due to my weight, which makes walking painful, but I know I need to walk for excercise anyway. I know that if I don't make some healthier choices, I could get type 2 diabetes also. Exercise can be good for one's mood and mental health if that is of any comfort. Sending support and positive thoughts your way.

  • AgitatedRiotAgitatedRiot Posts: 4,362
    edited May 2022

    Type 1 they need meds all their life. Usually found in children before they reach adulthood. Also known as juvenile diabetes. Type 2 is from bad diets and being overweight, and usually runs in the family and other risk factors.  

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  • Ron KnightsRon Knights Posts: 1,747
    edited May 2022

    Thanks for reminding me that high fructose corn syrup is bad for you. When I last ordered food from Amazon, I was still feeling rather manic. I ordered cases of the YooHoo drink. I'll stop drinking that immediately.

    My feet and hands feel just fine. Normal sensations etc. Thanks again, everyone for your support and information.

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  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,011
    edited May 2022

    memcneil70 said:

    Ron, whatever you do, keep in touch with your medical professionals, write down questions, ask them, write the answers down, study the disease, take it seriously.

    This, times 100... What Mary said up there is extremely important to do.

    The more proactive you are, the more likely you are to get better answers and suggestions from a doctor or PA.

    Lots of doctors are either overworked (or just seeing too many patients compared to their ability to maintain a handle on things) or they are aren't that great at patient relations... if you don't ask the right questions, they might not think to mention something important, or might just slip into a routine they are used to because other patient usually ignore their suggestions or are adverse to following a care regime that might be a little less convenient.

    I'll give you an example of something not necessarily exactly the same, but similar enough...

    A couple of years ago I smashed my elbow into something really hard and ruptured the bursa sac (kind of a shock absorber pad in the joint), that caused my elbow to swell and fill with fluid... which was kind of uncomfortable and gross looking... so I went to a specialist and he said his bit and explained that they usually just drain the fluid until the injury heals... but in some cases it might be chronic and draining it might end up being an ongoing thing. 
    Draining the fluid is neither a convenient nor a comfortable procedure... and after going there three times I asked him if it's not healing what other options are there.

    Appartently I could have gotten a steroid shot on my second visit, but he neglected to mention that because most of his patients don't like the steroid shot as it's more painful than draining the fluid. 
    So I got the steroid shot right then (which surprised him that I was willing to do it right away) and within a few days the swelling went away and it's seems to have healed.

    My guess is that he was used to his other patients being 900 years old and their condition being either age or weight related (as opposed to injury related where the steroid shot is more effective) and that they usually rejected the shot option (that last part he mentioned when I asked if we could do that right then, he was like "oh... people usually don't want to do this right away, if at all")...

    I didn't say it, but I was like, "Bro... what the hell?... do you think I enjoy driving twenty five miles to get my elbow drained?... you could at least have given me the friggin' option"...  but I know enough doctors personally and I know enough about medical procedures, that it should have occurred to me to ask about steroid shots, so technically I'm the bigger idiot because ultimately it's my elbow and I shouldn't have just been passive about it.

    The point being...  ask questions, be familiar with terminology, be proactive, be involved, stay on top of your treatment and always ask about what your options are in any medical situation... and one great way of asking about any treatment plan is to phrase it along the lines of "how would you go about treatment if this was for yourself?"

    I've noticed that when you are confronted with treatment options, asking "If you had to choose for yourself or a family member in this same situation, which would you prefer and why?" tends to get a lot better answers than not asking or simply asking which option is "better".

    And also, if you don't think your doctor seems very invested in your care, always seek a second opinion or change doctors... because like I said, some of my friends are doctors and I know from what they say... some doctors just suck at being doctors. 

    Good luck Ron and sorry if this was overly long, redundant or unnecessary.

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  • UHFUHF Posts: 512

    Ron Knights said:

    Thanks for reminding me that high fructose corn syrup is bad for you. When I last ordered food from Amazon, I was still feeling rather manic. I ordered cases of the YooHoo drink. I'll stop drinking that immediately.

    My feet and hands feel just fine. Normal sensations etc. Thanks again, everyone for your support and information.

    Health is merely the slowest rate at which you can die.  :-)

    So on that cheery note, just try to make good choices.  If you're doing too much daz, get out and walk a bit more. Try to have a smile on your face when you die.

    I'm only in my 50's, but yesterday I rolled over in bed to stop my alarm clock... This somehow pulled a muscle in my leg, causing me to scream in pain.  I kicked my cat clean off the bed while I was writhing there. After 10 minutes I was finally able to stop my alarm clock.  I then hobbled over to my phone (I still have dial up) and called in sick for the day.  When my boss asked what happened I said, "I rolled over." He laughed at me.

  • hacsarthacsart Posts: 2,025

    There is also Late Auto Immune Diabetes in Adults - basically your immune system destroys the insulin creating cells in your pancreas. That's what happened to me. Essentially I'm a Type 1,  been on insulin therapy (and  diet and exercise) for nigh on 30 years...

    AgitatedRiot said:

    Type 1 they need meds all their life. Usually found in children before they reach adulthood. Also known as juvenile diabetes. Type 2 is from bad diets and being overweight, and usually runs in the family and other risk factors.  

  • AgitatedRiotAgitatedRiot Posts: 4,362

    hacsart said:

    There is also Late Auto Immune Diabetes in Adults - basically your immune system destroys the insulin creating cells in your pancreas. That's what happened to me. Essentially I'm a Type 1,  been on insulin therapy (and  diet and exercise) for nigh on 30 years...

    AgitatedRiot said:

    Type 1 they need meds all their life. Usually found in children before they reach adulthood. Also known as juvenile diabetes. Type 2 is from bad diets and being overweight, and usually runs in the family and other risk factors.  

    True. In older people with certain conditions (eg something goes wrong with your immune system) it can destroy beta cells in your pancreas causing Type 1. Children between the ages of 4 and 7 years old and 10 years and 14 years are at higher risk.

  • AgitatedRiotAgitatedRiot Posts: 4,362

    UHF said:

    Ron Knights said:

    Thanks for reminding me that high fructose corn syrup is bad for you. When I last ordered food from Amazon, I was still feeling rather manic. I ordered cases of the YooHoo drink. I'll stop drinking that immediately.

    My feet and hands feel just fine. Normal sensations etc. Thanks again, everyone for your support and information.

    Health is merely the slowest rate at which you can die.  :-)

    So on that cheery note, just try to make good choices.  If you're doing too much daz, get out and walk a bit more. Try to have a smile on your face when you die.

    I'm only in my 50's, but yesterday I rolled over in bed to stop my alarm clock... This somehow pulled a muscle in my leg, causing me to scream in pain.  I kicked my cat clean off the bed while I was writhing there. After 10 minutes I was finally able to stop my alarm clock.  I then hobbled over to my phone (I still have dial up) and called in sick for the day.  When my boss asked what happened I said, "I rolled over." He laughed at me.

    I know how you feel I hit 6 decades in January. I swear when I wake up I hear snap, crackle, and pop laughing at me from under the bed.

  • Ron KnightsRon Knights Posts: 1,747

    I tried telling people that I start falling asleep when I've had only a few sips of soda. They didn't seem to understand me, or know what that was. Tonight I had some sugar-free Gatorade, and started falling asleep. I checked my blook sugar level. It had gone up from around 179 to 199! I solved that "sleep mystery," I'm having a hard time reading the label. I imagine there is some chemical in there that takes the place of sugar, and does its own damage.

  • GordigGordig Posts: 9,361

    Even sugar-free Gatorade is probably still mostly garbage. 

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 40,678

    ...artificial sweeteners can be just as bad if not worse.

  • Ron KnightsRon Knights Posts: 1,747

    I apologize for not fully responding to everyone. For years, I've felt like I'm fighting my way through a mental fog.... sometimes the best I can do is to skim through some posts. I very much appreciate everyone. DAZ has been my favorite online community for decades. I really look forward to making progress with this Diabetes. Then I'll be able to fully appreciate DAZ Studio and Make Art!

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 40,678

    ....wishing you the best. 

    I got mine down to where watching the diet is enough to keep it in check. Was on Metformin and the nausea never really went away like my former physician said it would.  Finally improved enough to be taken off of it (what a relief). For a while he had me on a statin as well and both together was like a one two punch. Some days I didn't even want to get out of bed. Turns out it was discovered that statins can actually aggravate diabetes, so I had him take me off it and my numbers improved withiina short time afterwards. 

  • Cris PalominoCris Palomino Posts: 11,151
    edited May 2022

    In June of 2020, I weighed approximately 465 lbs. My mobility was very compromised. I thankfully did not have diabetes. I was lucky in many respects, but I knew my luck was going to run out if I didn't change this. Unable to stand longer than 5 minutes at a time, even walking was out of play. Fortunately I found an on the floor elliptical machine on which I didn't have to stand. I could be seated. I worked my way from a slow 5 minutes to a fast solid hour within months. It's called a Cubii. I also joined Noom which presented me with a variety of eating lifestyles to consider and try. With Noom, nothing was wrong to eat as long as you understood something that was calorie dense, should be a meal and not every meal. I started looking at vegan. Not that I'm totally vegan, but I eat this way 98% of the time. In addition, I decided to stop eating sugar, processed foods and oil. Oil is the most calorie dense food, per, teasoon, you can eat. My oils come from eating whole nuts, seeds olives and avocados.
     

    The next thing I did was gather my favorite recipes and searched for ways to make them as flavorful and healthy as possible. Because of this, I can make vegan chicken nuggets in orange glaze, meatless albondigas,sugarless apple pie filling, oil-free tamales. I found a way to make a mozzarella cheese made from cashews that melts and really tastes like cheese. My smart oven air fries and I can make the best oil-free fries and tater tots.

    I presently weigh 293 lbs. This is what works for me. Finding what and how you can eat for the rest of your life will be key. 
     

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  • AgitatedRiotAgitatedRiot Posts: 4,362

    Ron Knights said:

    I tried telling people that I start falling asleep when I've had only a few sips of soda. They didn't seem to understand me, or know what that was. Tonight I had some sugar-free Gatorade, and started falling asleep. I checked my blook sugar level. It had gone up from around 179 to 199! I solved that "sleep mystery," I'm having a hard time reading the label. I imagine there is some chemical in there that takes the place of sugar, and does its own damage.

    That's the thing I do If I eat too many carbs it's Napsvilles for me. I check my blood sugar it's fine. I just get sleepy after eating. You like chocolate. You can still have it if it's dark enough somewhere around 80% to 90% I like it around 95% Good for the heart.

    A standard bar of dark chocolate with 70 percent to 85 percent cacao contains about 600 calories and 24 grams of sugar, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture's nutrient database. Milk chocolate contains roughly the same number of calories but twice the sugar. 

    Are there health benefits from chocolate? | American Heart Association

  • Ron KnightsRon Knights Posts: 1,747

    Cris, you've gone through a lot, and made some great progress. Thanks for sharing your experience. I've setup a few appointments and am making progress.

    I'm really excited because my doctor said I can eliminate one of my blood pressure medications. He said my blood pressure is too low.

  • Cris PalominoCris Palomino Posts: 11,151
    edited May 2022

    Ron Knights said:

    Cris, you've gone through a lot, and made some great progress. Thanks for sharing your experience. I've setup a few appointments and am making progress.

    I'm really excited because my doctor said I can eliminate one of my blood pressure medications. He said my blood pressure is too low.

    Thanks, Ron. I share it to show you CAN do it. It takes dedication, but if find ways that will bring you health and be able to enjoy what you eat, you will have more success, imo. It has to be a life change. You''ll be surprised how well your body responds to healthy. I'm happy you're going into this with an open mind. Keep up the good work. Can't wait to hear your progress. Good luck! 

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  • Ron KnightsRon Knights Posts: 1,747

    Cris, thanks again for your support. Tomorrow I rejoin my friends for lunch. I had stayed away for a few days because I just felt overwhelmed. But I really miss my friends. They have really helped me to socialize and hone my conversation skills.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 40,678
    edited May 2022

    .wow, I felt bad at being 221.  Up into my late 40s I struggled to break 180.

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  • BlueSiriusBlueSirius Posts: 86
    edited May 2022

    Sorry to reply to thread 10 days late but finally have time for some back reading.

    I got the D2 around 10 years ago, went from having 2 sugars in my coffee to sweeteners. In the years since I have gotten to hate sweet so don't used sweeteners. Maybe the hating sweet is a mental adjustment as I know it is bad for me.

    Try to exercise but the best way in my opinion is to build some into life style. I choose to walk to the shops so shop every few days instead of a big shop - this means more fresh food and try to get more food in that vege area and not bother with cans etc.

    The other is if test high - go on a 20 minute walk, absolutely the best way to get rid of sugar.

    After 10 years on Metaformin and my Dr's moved me to slow release 12 hour insulin ontop of the metformin. The Metformin helps fight your cells being insulin resistant, the additional insulin is to make it easier for pancreas and take the load off of it. In the words of my Dr the additional slow acting insulin acts like a hammer to force the insulin resistent cells to do to their things.

    I'm not a Dr but I can certainly tell you there are some Dr that are better than others for D type-2. One told me that if I lost 15 kg I would loose the D2, though I have not managed to do that I have managed to loose around half the goal over years and that has to be better than going the other way.

    So overall now I eat a tonne less sugar and "better" than my family. I have a couple of leafy green salids a week in the lunch slot and just pay more attention to picking the right stuff. Not going to tell you what to eat though as I don't know your needs. Yoy will be perfectly capable of researching what works for you.

    Lastly don't let it get you down, it is not hard to manage once you know you have it, and it kind of forces you to make more healthy life choices.

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  • AgitatedRiotAgitatedRiot Posts: 4,362

    BlueSirius said:

    Sorry to reply to thread 10 days late but finally have time for some back reading.

    I got the D2 around 10 years ago, went from having 2 sugars in my coffee to sweeteners. In the years since I have gotten to hate sweet so don't used sweeteners. Maybe the hating sweet is a mental adjustment as I know it is bad for me.

    Try to exercise but the best way in my opinion is to build some into life style. I choose to walk to the shops so shop every few days instead of a big shop - this means more fresh food and try to get more food in that vege area and not bother with cans etc.

    The other is if test high - go on a 20 minute walk, absolutely the best way to get rid of sugar.

    After 10 years on Metaformin and my Dr's moved me to slow release 12 hour insulin ontop of the metformin. The Metformin helps fight your cells being insulin resistant, the additional insulin is to make it easier for pancreas and take the load off of it. In the words of my Dr the additional slow acting insulin acts like a hammer to force the insulin resistent cells to do to their things.

    I'm not a Dr but I can certainly tell you there are some Dr that are better than others for D type-2. One told me that if I lost 15 kg I would loose the D2, though I have not managed to do that I have managed to loose around half the goal over years and that has to be better than going the other way.

    So overall now I eat a tonne less sugar and "better" than my family. I have a couple of leafy green salids a week in the lunch slot and just pay more attention to picking the right stuff. Not going to tell you what to eat though as I don't know your needs. Yoy will be perfectly capable of researching what works for you.

    Lastly don't let it get you down, it is not hard to manage once you know you have it, and it kind of forces you to make more healthy life choices.

    Good plan. I'm only on Trulicity. I steam a lot of my food nowadays  As it is heating up here in the northern hemisphere you want to take special care in the heat and humidity.

    How Heat And Humidity May Affect Blood Sugar (informationaboutdiabetes.com)

     

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 40,678

    ...I was on Metformin, the Dr said it the nausea and fatigue effects would go away in a couple weeks. They didn't instead lasting for months on end.  Some days it was almost debilitating to the point that I just stayed in bed.  Finally was taken off of it and now use diet and walking as my main "treatment".  Since then no more nausea of cramping (unless I eat something that doesn't agree with me) and no fatigue. 

    My system is somewhat more sensitive to medication side effects. 

  • hacsarthacsart Posts: 2,025

    For me, the big thing is knowing my crab to insulin ratio. That is what I have to do with meals to figure out the dosage of rapid acting insulin needed to cover the meal. but then, as I have said, I'm not Type 2.. My routine is one shot of a long lasting insulin in the orning., plus a shot of fast acting to cover breakfast. Then fast acting after every meal.  - between 4-5 shots per day, and an appropriate number of finger sticks.. Sugar isn't the real problem for me as I really dont use much of it, its the carbs. and one has to watch out for the "hidden" high fructose corn syrup, that seems to be in a lot of things...

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 40,678

    ...I routinely check labels and anytime it says HFCS it goes back on the store shelf.  just about every "store brand" or cheap product these days has it from peanut butter, to ketchup, to pickles (not dill), and even bakery items.  Hence, my food budget is a bit more expensive as I tend to go after organic and natural products.

    Sad that eating healthier foods instead of the mainstream overproduced stuff with excess sugars, fats and all sorts of additives, has to be more expensive. Living alone I can sort of handle the cost, but when it comes to feeding a family, you're talking a hefty weekly grocery bill that many just cannot afford on their income..

  • AgitatedRiotAgitatedRiot Posts: 4,362

    kyoto kid said:

    ...I routinely check labels and anytime it says HFCS it goes back on the store shelf.  just about every "store brand" or cheap product these days has it from peanut butter, to ketchup, to pickles (not dill), and even bakery items.  Hence, my food budget is a bit more expensive as I tend to go after organic and natural products.

    Sad that eating healthier foods instead of the mainstream overproduced stuff with excess sugars, fats and all sorts of additives, has to be more expensive. Living alone I can sort of handle the cost, but when it comes to feeding a family, you're talking a hefty weekly grocery bill that many just cannot afford on their income..

    Yes, I know our food budget has started interfering with our other enjoyment activities.

  • IceScribeIceScribe Posts: 690
    edited June 2022

    Sorry to hear that your condition was overlooked. It's not the end of the world -with just a bit of care, you will last a good long time in good health, maybe even better health!  You will not have to give up all the foods you love. Moderation will be your friend.

     

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  • The is hope. I had blood work done last week and three years of Normal blood A1C. The doctor has taken me off all diabetic drugs. He wants to see if my next test is regular without Drugs, I'll crush my next test.

  • frank0314frank0314 Posts: 13,514
    edited November 2022

    kyoto kid said:

    ...I routinely check labels and anytime it says HFCS it goes back on the store shelf.  just about every "store brand" or cheap product these days has it from peanut butter, to ketchup, to pickles (not dill), and even bakery items.  Hence, my food budget is a bit more expensive as I tend to go after organic and natural products.

    Sad that eating healthier foods instead of the mainstream overproduced stuff with excess sugars, fats and all sorts of additives, has to be more expensive. Living alone I can sort of handle the cost, but when it comes to feeding a family, you're talking a hefty weekly grocery bill that many just cannot afford on their income..

    It's expensive to be healthy. To eat healthy for a family of 4 for 1 week of food will take the entire month's budget of the store brand. Really sad when living comes down to that. I know with all my health problems I need to be eating healthy but its a bit hard, well, really hard. I have to eat less meals and a quarter less of a portions. Prices have only gotten worse now. In this area we are paying 1/3 more for groceries a month. Needless to say you have to cut from 2-3 meals a day to 1. With my diabetes I really have to watch what I eat. My BS skyrockets at the drop of a hat.

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