"There's Always Another Sale™" Sales thread: Report Issues Here

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  • Cris Palomino said:

    The GC is in the "Today only" section so does not get the loyalty discount.

    .... and I tested the "Let Santa offer you Gifts". Those items are discounted in the cart, and they are also in the "Today only" section....

  • kyoto kid said:

     so will this on simply add on to that and extend my membership to 2022?

    Yes. If you purchase additional PC+membership it extends your membership time. It does not overlap.  As for price ... this is a good offer (which suggests just taking it) ... but you have a few months and you could risk looking for better (it happens maybe three times a year).

  • NorthOf45NorthOf45 Posts: 5,690

    Leana said:

    NorthOf45 said:

    Cris Palomino said:

    NorthOf45 said:

    I think a better way would be to have the base character outside of the bundle(s), and the deal would be a package with one or the other or both bundles with the base character.

    There would likely be complaints from either or both sides.

    I can't see why anyone would complain.*

    Well considering some people already complain when the second bundle doesn’t include the base figure, some definitely would. And your suggestion only works for intro deal.

     Removed the start of this conversation because it was getting too long without collapsing. And I will add the part that was cut off from my last entry

    *I can't see why anyone would complain. Now, you pay X for bundle 1, Y for bundle 2, both include a base figure. If you get both, you pay for the base figure twice, which no one likes, except maybe the store. If the base was outside the bundle, let's call them bundle 1a and 2a, make the deal for the base plus bundle 1a the same as for bundle 1 ($X), and the base plus bundle 2a the same as bundle 2 ($Y), and maybe a special for getting the base, bundle 1a and bundle 2a all together ($Z) such that Z is less than X + Y. For a limited time, of course.

    All of the new-style "Pro" bundles from the last six months or so (starting with Kayo and Kwan) have had intro deals for already owning some of the included products, or extra discounts for owning the first bundle, and they will never be available again in that format. The "Staff Picks" bundles, while a good selection of quality products, have no appeal to anyone who already owns a good portion of the included products without a significant (i.e., proportional) discount, which is also only an intro deal, never to be repeated. Anyone who wants to get one of these hybrid bundles later can't get a discount benefit for already having some of the items, sometimes from other unrelated bundles. Duplicating products in a bundle, or even including previously released content which might have already been purchased, seriously detracts from the appeal and value of the other bundles, since you would later have to pay for the duplicates twice, unless you get the intro deal while it is available (but, "There's Always Another Sale" if you want to wait). So, yeah, my suggestion is also an intro deal, but it's more appealing to me than the current offerings. No more duplicates. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.cheeky

     

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,847
    ...I don't think I've ever got a deal on an annual renewal this good. The best I've seen was 50% off last year.
  • AtiAti Posts: 9,182

    Something is off with https://www.daz3d.com/superbike-and-poses-for-genesis-3-female When I sort the store by price low to high, it comes up first, even before the free items, as if the store would think it's free.

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,970
    edited December 2020

    Charlie Judge said:

    3Diva said:

    The 20% off gift cards with a new release isn't working.

     

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    It is working for me now. I wonder if the reason it is not working for you is that your PC+ membership is as a PA and the offer is not recognizing it.

    I really hope not. But you're probably right. 

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  • 3Diva said:

    Charlie Judge said:

    3Diva said:

    The 20% off gift cards with a new release isn't working.

     

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    It is working for me now. I wonder if the reason it is not working for you is that your PC+ membership is as a PA and the offer is not recognizing it.

    I really hope not. But you're probably right. 

    I really doubt that it is intentional. More likely it is just an unintended  error in programing the way the offer looks for eligibility. So, if I were in your position and wanted a gift card I would definitely file a help ticket.

  • gniiialgniiial Posts: 221
    edited December 2020

    Maybe this was asked before BUT... why does the 25% EXTRA does not apply in cart? (first pic)
    I don't really know why this still is happening. Since I also ask myself why the EXTRA 25% are not applying when i do this? (second pic)

    I get that the Loyalty Discount does NOT apply BUT you write you want to give an EXTRA 25% off that has nothing to do with the Loyalty Discount! Down below you only say: 
    "* Loyalty Discount only applies to items featured as part of the "2020 Holiday Sale". Unless otherwise specified, excludes Gift Cards, Fast Grab, PC+ Memberships and 'Today Only' deals."

    So basicly this EXTRA has nothing to do with this fact. Or have we a like Loyalty Discount 50% overall in general?! But THEN it should look like this: picture 3  
     

    AND FIX THE BOARD... man this iss insane the last few months here...
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  • gniiialgniiial Posts: 221

    Another example...

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  • gniiial said:

    Maybe this was asked before BUT... why does the 25% EXTRA does not apply in cart? (first pic)
    I don't really know why this still is happening. Since I also ask myself why the EXTRA 25% are not applying when i do this? (second pic)

    I get that the Loyalty Discount does NOT apply BUT you write you want to give an EXTRA 25% off that has nothing to do with the Loyalty Discount! Down below you only say: 
    "* Loyalty Discount only applies to items featured as part of the "2020 Holiday Sale". Unless otherwise specified, excludes Gift Cards, Fast Grab, PC+ Memberships and 'Today Only' deals."

    So basicly this EXTRA has nothing to do with this fact. Or have we a like Loyalty Discount 50% overall in general?! But THEN it should look like this: picture 3  
     

    AND FIX THE BOARD... man this iss insane the last few months here...

    Which extra 25% is this? The bannerlet that is appearing on every page is just a reminder of the Loyalty Discount as far as I know.

  • gniiialgniiial Posts: 221

    Annnnd another one that i can't even get my head arround! I cannot even calculate what is happening there for the price of this hair! BUT i also see there is something off, just by trying to caculate the prices. This item has already a discount of 58%, so clearly something has to happen with at least 2 times 25 % ... so:
    10,48(already 58% discount on 24,95 $) - 25 % - again 25 % = 5,90 discount price

    If it would be reduced to 50% back again it would look like this:
    24,95 $ - 50% - 25% - 25% = 6,92 $

    with missing 25% like this:
    24,95 $ - 58% - 25% = 7,86 $
    or
    24,95 $ - 50% - 25% = 9,36 $

    You see, there is something not right. And just by fiddeling with 3 or 4 items i can clearly see that buying is at the moment just AGAIN a loss for everyone. And this is not just today, it was the last weeks like this and we don't find an explanation or something that even EXPLAINS what is really happening. Not to mention the disappointing ups/downs with prices for gift cards... i was lucky, but not lucky enough at the beginning of december! Got one for 25% (now its 20?!) The price was down at 6th december to 35%. This is like spitting in someones face... really it is! And if the prices are not even correct and the calculation not even make sense al all at some point... i find not the right words to describe what to think of this mess! 

    Maybe it would be better to stay with cupon codes only, for seperate sections and be done with it?! There one can clearly SEE and calculate what would happen... I mean if we dont calculate every single thing here and would file a ticket if something is missing, we would not even get our money back. And if you ask me, it looks like in a casino... and we all know what is happening there...

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  • gniiialgniiial Posts: 221
    edited December 2020

    Richard Haseltine said:

    gniiial said:

    Maybe this was asked before BUT... why does the 25% EXTRA does not apply in cart? (first pic)
    I don't really know why this still is happening. Since I also ask myself why the EXTRA 25% are not applying when i do this? (second pic)

    I get that the Loyalty Discount does NOT apply BUT you write you want to give an EXTRA 25% off that has nothing to do with the Loyalty Discount! Down below you only say: 
    "* Loyalty Discount only applies to items featured as part of the "2020 Holiday Sale". Unless otherwise specified, excludes Gift Cards, Fast Grab, PC+ Memberships and 'Today Only' deals."

    So basicly this EXTRA has nothing to do with this fact. Or have we a like Loyalty Discount 50% overall in general?! But THEN it should look like this: picture 3  
     

    AND FIX THE BOARD... man this iss insane the last few months here...

    Which extra 25% is this? The bannerlet that is appearing on every page is just a reminder of the Loyalty Discount as far as I know.

    Try this one: 

    And it says off my purchases
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  • kyoto kid said:

    ...I don't think I've ever got a deal on an annual renewal this good. The best I've seen was 50% off last year.

    Yep,this is probably the best deal you will see. Although I got a deal for $12.60 in 2017 (probably a glitch) and also was  able to get it for $22.68 in 2019, those were the only two times I've seen it lower than 60% off. Even though I have nearly a year to go on my current membership, I'm definitely considering getting another year. in today's sale. 

  • gniiialgniiial Posts: 221

    Charlie Judge said:

    kyoto kid said:

    ...I don't think I've ever got a deal on an annual renewal this good. The best I've seen was 50% off last year.

    Yep,this is probably the best deal you will see. Although I got a deal for $12.60 in 2017 (probably a glitch) and also was  able to get it for $22.68 in 2019, those were the only two times I've seen it lower than 60% off. Even though I have nearly a year to go on my current membership, I'm definitely considering getting another year. in today's sale. 

    If you have time, i would wait... i got it for 70% less arround halloween and it was not a glitch. It was just adding up the discount percentages. But i don't know if it was intentional from the shop... 

  • gniiial said:

    Charlie Judge said:

    kyoto kid said:

    ...I don't think I've ever got a deal on an annual renewal this good. The best I've seen was 50% off last year.

    Yep,this is probably the best deal you will see. Although I got a deal for $12.60 in 2017 (probably a glitch) and also was  able to get it for $22.68 in 2019, those were the only two times I've seen it lower than 60% off. Even though I have nearly a year to go on my current membership, I'm definitely considering getting another year. in today's sale. 

    If you have time, i would wait... i got it for 70% less arround halloween and it was not a glitch. It was just adding up the discount percentages. But i don't know if it was intentional from the shop... 

    Given the discount mess before and especially after the shop update, I would not set any reasonable money on that.  

  • gniiial said:

    Annnnd another one that i can't even get my head arround! I cannot even calculate what is happening there for the price of this hair! BUT i also see there is something off, just by trying to caculate the prices. This item has already a discount of 58%, so clearly something has to happen with at least 2 times 25 % ... so:
    10,48(already 58% discount on 24,95 $) - 25 % - again 25 % = 5,90 discount price

    If it would be reduced to 50% back again it would look like this:
    24,95 $ - 50% - 25% - 25% = 6,92 $

    with missing 25% like this:
    24,95 $ - 58% - 25% = 7,86 $
    or
    24,95 $ - 50% - 25% = 9,36 $

    You see, there is something not right. And just by fiddeling with 3 or 4 items i can clearly see that buying is at the moment just AGAIN a loss for everyone. And this is not just today, it was the last weeks like this and we don't find an explanation or something that even EXPLAINS what is really happening. Not to mention the disappointing ups/downs with prices for gift cards... i was lucky, but not lucky enough at the beginning of december! Got one for 25% (now its 20?!) The price was down at 6th december to 35%. This is like spitting in someones face... really it is! And if the prices are not even correct and the calculation not even make sense al all at some point... i find not the right words to describe what to think of this mess! 

    Maybe it would be better to stay with cupon codes only, for seperate sections and be done with it?! There one can clearly SEE and calculate what would happen... I mean if we dont calculate every single thing here and would file a ticket if something is missing, we would not even get our money back. And if you ask me, it looks like in a casino... and we all know what is happening there...

    30% introductory discount, then 25% loyalty = 0.7 * 0.75 * price = 52.5% to pay, 47.5% discount

    Iselind Hair is 67% off then 25% = 0.33 * 0.75 * price = 24.75% to pay, 75.25% discount (but that's already a couple of dioscount combined, I suspect that the 74% is just down to rounding the displayed discount amounts to a whole percent).

  • gniiialgniiial Posts: 221
    edited December 2020

    gniiial said:

    Annnnd another one that i can't even get my head arround! I cannot even calculate what is happening there for the price of this hair! BUT i also see there is something off, just by trying to caculate the prices. This item has already a discount of 58%, so clearly something has to happen with at least 2 times 25 % ... so:
    10,48(already 58% discount on 24,95 $) - 25 % - again 25 % = 5,90 discount price

    If it would be reduced to 50% back again it would look like this:
    24,95 $ - 50% - 25% - 25% = 6,92 $

    with missing 25% like this:
    24,95 $ - 58% - 25% = 7,86 $
    or
    24,95 $ - 50% - 25% = 9,36 $

    You see, there is something not right. And just by fiddeling with 3 or 4 items i can clearly see that buying is at the moment just AGAIN a loss for everyone. And this is not just today, it was the last weeks like this and we don't find an explanation or something that even EXPLAINS what is really happening. Not to mention the disappointing ups/downs with prices for gift cards... i was lucky, but not lucky enough at the beginning of december! Got one for 25% (now its 20?!) The price was down at 6th december to 35%. This is like spitting in someones face... really it is! And if the prices are not even correct and the calculation not even make sense al all at some point... i find not the right words to describe what to think of this mess! 

    Maybe it would be better to stay with cupon codes only, for seperate sections and be done with it?! There one can clearly SEE and calculate what would happen... I mean if we dont calculate every single thing here and would file a ticket if something is missing, we would not even get our money back. And if you ask me, it looks like in a casino... and we all know what is happening there...

    For Items like https://www.daz3d.com/honni-8-pro-bundle (58% discount) it's in general somehow broken... i cannot calculate the real percentages that add up there, if we include a new release. It's somewhat between 16-17%.... Also only the 25% Loyalty Discount applies in general. At least i guess it is happening, since it happens without a new release item in card and with one of the new releases included. But the price goes down like i mentioned around 16-17 percent. Not extra 25 or just extra 10... 

    For another mixup it's working BUT you can clearly see that it affects the lower discount price for items below 50%. Because there it works, takes the price from 41 to 50% but right before this, without the new release item it STAYS at 41% inside the section:

    Recent Top Sellers - 40% OFF
    50% OFF* with any New Release

    I cannot check it, but my guess would be that the PC+ memberships get's first attention and then, if the discount would be bigger than that, it applies. If not it does not and takes the acctual PC+ discount + 25% Loyalty Discount once. The other one (EXTRA) on top of all purchases is still missing in all screenshots... That one if for sure!

    The question is... WHAT are these 16-17%... where do they come from? These are clearly not 25% Extra, since they don't work on any card!!! What is this?!
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  • gniiialgniiial Posts: 221
    edited December 2020

    Richard Haseltine said:

    gniiial said:

    Annnnd another one that i can't even get my head arround! I cannot even calculate what is happening there for the price of this hair! BUT i also see there is something off, just by trying to caculate the prices. This item has already a discount of 58%, so clearly something has to happen with at least 2 times 25 % ... so:
    10,48(already 58% discount on 24,95 $) - 25 % - again 25 % = 5,90 discount price

    If it would be reduced to 50% back again it would look like this:
    24,95 $ - 50% - 25% - 25% = 6,92 $

    with missing 25% like this:
    24,95 $ - 58% - 25% = 7,86 $
    or
    24,95 $ - 50% - 25% = 9,36 $

    You see, there is something not right. And just by fiddeling with 3 or 4 items i can clearly see that buying is at the moment just AGAIN a loss for everyone. And this is not just today, it was the last weeks like this and we don't find an explanation or something that even EXPLAINS what is really happening. Not to mention the disappointing ups/downs with prices for gift cards... i was lucky, but not lucky enough at the beginning of december! Got one for 25% (now its 20?!) The price was down at 6th december to 35%. This is like spitting in someones face... really it is! And if the prices are not even correct and the calculation not even make sense al all at some point... i find not the right words to describe what to think of this mess! 

    Maybe it would be better to stay with cupon codes only, for seperate sections and be done with it?! There one can clearly SEE and calculate what would happen... I mean if we dont calculate every single thing here and would file a ticket if something is missing, we would not even get our money back. And if you ask me, it looks like in a casino... and we all know what is happening there...

    30% introductory discount, then 25% loyalty = 0.7 * 0.75 * price = 52.5% to pay, 47.5% discount

    Iselind Hair is 67% off then 25% = 0.33 * 0.75 * price = 24.75% to pay, 75.25% discount (but that's already a couple of dioscount combined, I suspect that the 74% is just down to rounding the displayed discount amounts to a whole percent).

    But in general i am right and these Extra 25% are missing on all of them? I mean it is about "what i would have to tell the support" is missing. The thing is we have to prove something and it is nearly impossible when these things happen all the time. I backed up from a lot of purchases the last weeks, since i cannot even explain what is going on. And like i said, if we dont file a support ticket, we don't get the money back EVER! I already complained that the shop or DAZ in general should do this on their own. I mean for real, sometimes i sit an hour or so just calculating things here... that's just insane. And if i buy something i think then again: "screw it...", even if i know something is off. Maybe just a few cents here and there BUT the point is it is happening all over the shop for nearly everyone that buys stuff here. and THAT is the point... some Extra that does not even apply is not a reparation and should NEVER be! 
    Because if someone is not noticing that it's missing... it's 25% income for... right... the shop/DAZ/PA's/Vendors... and as long as you split up products like with colorization crap (Iray shader updates, few bright textures... and so on) i don't really feel like this is okay! 

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  • TriCounterTriCounter Posts: 585
    edited December 2020
    Meh
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  • gniiialgniiial Posts: 221
    edited December 2020

    And just to make things clear 50 cents are half a dollar! In the section i mentioned in the beginning these 50 cents are per product! So if this extra is NOT applied and you take a lot of them in the card, it's half a dollar per item all over the cart. Let's say 10 times, so 5 dollars. Lets say 100 people do that and accept these *terms in a wrong way it's 500 dollars. Now lets say this happens every day so 356 times a year these are 178.000 dollars...
    Not even mentioned the other items i have tested only today... you get my point?! 


    The other thing is, i would want to see what is happening on my bill, what event was, what discount "should" apply and what real was applied! How can i do that? I mean the support should have a lot of complains about these things. Daz knows for sure in which section which items should scale down. What if i want to say these bills i have should be reviewed and the missing percentages should be repaid? How would i do that? Can a customer even do it? 

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  • gniiialgniiial Posts: 221
    edited December 2020
    I was wrong... it's accepting the 60% down from the top and gets another 25% Loyalty Discount from the bottom category! So the Extra is also not really there. It just looks like it, because of both categories...
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  • gniiial said:

    I was wrong... it's accepting the 60% down from the top and gets another 25% Loyalty Discount from the bottom category! So the Extra is also not really there. It just looks like it, because of both categories...

    What extra 25%? I didn't see any missing discounts in your cart, in the two examples I worked through above.

  • A few prices in the 60% off with purchase of a new item section have changed since 1 am when I put them in my cart.  Now they are no longer in my buy zone.  I don't personally like the game we play here every day, should I buy this now in case the price changes, or do I wait to see if there is a flash sale, or might the price go lower during the day?  It's exhausting.  I'm picking up freebies for now and waiting for something to catch my fancy to the point where the above doesn't matter.  Sorry to the PAs who are probably not getting all the money they deserve for their work because of the glitches.

     

  • gniiialgniiial Posts: 221
    edited December 2020

    Richard Haseltine said:

    gniiial said:

    I was wrong... it's accepting the 60% down from the top and gets another 25% Loyalty Discount from the bottom category! So the Extra is also not really there. It just looks like it, because of both categories...

    What extra 25%? I didn't see any missing discounts in your cart, in the two examples I worked through above.

    Your Holiday Loyalty Discount is 25%

    As a thank you, we would like to give you an EXTRA 25% OFF* your purchases during the Holiday Loyalty sale!

     

    Would mean 25% + 25% EXTRA. 
    This is what i am talking about all the time. The *star note, exclution or what ever you want to name it NOTE clearly excludes the "Holiday Loyalty Discount is 25%" but NOT the EXTRA on the overall purchased items in cart! It's in fact marked wrong, since it descibes that the Loyalty Discount alone only applies to items featured as part of the "2020 Holiday Sale". Unless otherwise specified, excludes Gift Cards, Fast Grab, PC+ Memberships and 'Today Only' deals.

    I talk about the EXTRA 25% that we get and is NOT excludet, even if you mark it with a star telling the customer that the Loyalty Discount does have specific regulations! The EXTRA have NONE!!!
    And these EXTRA 25% apply on NO items in cart. At least not for my examples! Am i talking chinese here?! 
       

    And sorry, but i did what you guys want. I made screens, have shown errors, mistakes and did calculate everything in between for hours. This is NOT my job here. I am a customer buying here and these mistakes prevent from buying things here also! Think about that. It's tiresome to have to do it in the first place like with every item in cart... better do it twice, better think about what should apply, what not... and then again talking here and saying the same all over again for weeks... The count of the topic agrees with me here there is something way too off!! This has to be solved...
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  • They are the same 25%, there is only the one.

  • TirickTirick Posts: 235

    For the weekly PC+ items I'm not getting either my 30% loyalty discount or the listed 60% additional discount listed from the PC+ page, either on the item store page or in cart. Am I missing something with the weekly purchase discounts? Should I have something else in the cart with it?

    Thank you!

    Tirick

  • I purchased a gift card earlier, but the email hasn't shown up in the recipient account yet - is this normal?

  • ArtAngelArtAngel Posts: 1,942

    IndigoTea said:

    I purchased a gift card earlier, but the email hasn't shown up in the recipient account yet - is this normal?

    It happens once a blue moon, but go to your invoices copy the gift card code and paste it to redeem it
  • IndigoTea said:

    I purchased a gift card earlier, but the email hasn't shown up in the recipient account yet - is this normal?

    Make sure you check your spam filter.

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