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  • GalaxyGalaxy Posts: 562
    edited October 2019
    jakiblue said:

    I took a break recently, from art and daz and pc+ for quite a few months. I only came back to PC+ membership with the anniversary sale, as I was hoping to get membership on sale. 

    1. The biggest reason I pay for PC+ is the prices. That's the #1 reason for me. The extra discount on DO's helps, as do the items released each week for PC+. I wouldn't pay "full price" for them, as most of the clothing items only have one texture and you have to buy another product to get more textures. PC prices, yeah sure, I'll do that - non-PC prices? No way. 
    2. The coupons are good - although I find the "$6 off $18 total" is the one that I often have to let slide, or am scrambling to use. It means that I am definitely spending at least $12, which is actually about $18AU and often, I can't swing that. So I really think of it as 1 coupon I get with membership.

    Keeping in mind these are just my personal opinions - what I think and what I would like to see could be the complete opposite of what someone else wants - here are some thoughts...

    1. Tutorials etc in the PC+ forums. Everything from iray lighting, to how to texture, to good composition in a scene, to the breakdown of promo images used at daz. Video or print, doesn't matter - although I like visual learning, it's also good to be able to print out a tut to read at leisure or keep for later. 
    2. More lights, props/scenes and utilities as PC+ items. Again, this is personal opinion - there's probably thousands of members who love clothing and figures and poses. But I'm finding I'm purchasing more props/scenes from PC than dresses or skirts or other clothing - and I rarely buy a character. 
    3. No more PC+ products that are add on's for full priced non-PC products. In a way, I feel a bit cheated when they come up - if I haven't spent $25 - 35 on the item, it almost makes me feel penalised when a $3.99 add on turns up as one of the PC+ weekly items. 
    4. Birthday coupons/credit! Wouldn't it be awesome to get a $5 gift voucher, or a coupon for $10 off any DO on your birthday??
    5. The PC for a Day items have been teh MOST FUN for me this sale - what about doing 1 (or 2) PC for the Day item each week, when the new PC items come out, available to PC members only? Yeah, there's a huge chance long time daz users have probably already got it, and you'd have to find a PA who would be willing to allow one of their products go for that low price, but just a thought? 

    Like everyone else, things like forum avatars are not appealing to me at all (i find them kinda ridiculous actually) and exclusive products to PC members only also can create a bit of a bad aura - unless those items are always and forever available to the end of time. So you could come back to the PC membership if you dropped it, and those items would still be available to you. Not like the weekly freebies that you miss out on if you haven't renewed or even forgot they were there. The biggest drawback to PC to me is the price - and that's simply because of my own personal financial situation, and that I am not US based, and the US dollar is worth about 60c Aussie. So while things like the pro bundles are great deals if you are PC member, you can almost double the cost of them to us aussies, so they don't become such brilliant deals. But DAZ can't make everyone around the world happy all the time, so that's understandable. 

     

    "simply because of my own personal financial situation, and that I am not US based, and the US dollar is worth about 60c Aussie." - jakiblue

    Same or worse condition. My currency condition is multiple times less value than your Aussie. By the way though in my country 1.99 is enough for one month internet (more than 40GB 4G internet) even though many people cannot afford it. By the way some people also earning almost or more than million dollar monthly salary here.

     

    I suggest weekly or monthly PC for the day items and build your own bundle items.

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  • Daz Jack TomalinDaz Jack Tomalin Posts: 13,830

    My initial concern with making 'PC for a day' a regular thing, is you then fall into that trap where it's normal.  So then what makes the PC anniversary special? 

    Much like now, where we see comments like 'the PA sale isn't special any more' as deeper discounts are more frequent than they used to be.  So you can take the special sauce from sales and spread it around, sure.. but then where do you go during the sales when you get cries of 'the discounts should be bigger than they usually are!'

  • AsariAsari Posts: 703
    Jack Tomalin said:

    My initial concern with making 'PC for a day' a regular thing, is you then fall into that trap where it's normal.  So then what makes the PC anniversary special? 

    Much like now, where we see comments like 'the PA sale isn't special any more' as deeper discounts are more frequent than they used to be.  So you can take the special sauce from sales and spread it around, sure.. but then where do you go during the sales when you get cries of 'the discounts should be bigger than they usually are!'

    I guess this is something difficult to balance. If 50% across the store happens across the store then the PA Festival becomes something usual. But if we have less sales throughout the year then we want more sales ;)

    Build in some gimmicks for the sale would not necessarily help either. Not everyone likes the flash sales or the buy this to get that sales.

    Another option could be deliver different tiers of products offered. Let's say the regular PC+ for a day focuses on older products and the Sale festivals focuses on newer products. Might not be economically feasible for DAZ though.

  • rav4rav4 Posts: 96

    I did the survey. Took over 2 minutes. Didn't get $5 coupon. Anyone get their coupon?

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  • GalaxyGalaxy Posts: 562

    People will always cry. Even if everything is free then people will cry for download speed they are not getting. But it is the benefit that will keep people interested to something and keep visit everytime.

    I think few selected items every week or month will keep people like me interested. Also not everyone will get benefit only PC+ members.

  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,925

    I haven't gotten my $5 yet. But it's still early IMO. They may be waiting for everyone in that batch to complete the survey. Or iron out the kinks.

  • gitika1gitika1 Posts: 948
    Jack Tomalin said:

    My initial concern with making 'PC for a day' a regular thing, is you then fall into that trap where it's normal.  So then what makes the PC anniversary special? 

    Much like now, where we see comments like 'the PA sale isn't special any more' as deeper discounts are more frequent than they used to be.  So you can take the special sauce from sales and spread it around, sure.. but then where do you go during the sales when you get cries of 'the discounts should be bigger than they usually are!'

    I agree.  It is one of the features of the PC+ Anniversary that I like the most.  If some sort of variation was felt to be needed, may add one 'PC for the Week', that is in our Wednesday newsletter.  

  • ByrdieByrdie Posts: 1,783

    Isn't PC for a day only an anniversary thing? It's one of my favorite features, too. But yes, if it happens all the time, it soon won't be special any more. 

  • P A Y A T PP A Y A T P Posts: 1,177
    Jack Tomalin said:
    Kerya said:
    nonesuch00 said:

    What? If the old $1.99 stuff ever disappeared so would me rejoining the PC+.

     

    And I wouldn't think of rejoining ... People's point of view is obviously different.

     

    Therein lies the problem :D

    Can't please everyone. What about reduction? culling? It is the middle way (so we have more current/updated contents suitable for Daz 4.10+).

  • SBibbSBibb Posts: 600
    Habulin Dati said:
    Jack Tomalin said:
    Kerya said:
    nonesuch00 said:

    What? If the old $1.99 stuff ever disappeared so would me rejoining the PC+.

     

    And I wouldn't think of rejoining ... People's point of view is obviously different.

     

    Therein lies the problem :D

    Can't please everyone. What about reduction? culling? It is the middle way (so we have more current/updated contents suitable for Daz 4.10+).

    Personally I'd prefer not to see anything culled, especially since so many things can be converted with a bit of work. Or works well in the background.

    That said, if there was an easier way to filter out just the older stuff, or maybe to move it to it's own page, that might be nice.

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,313

    Just got the email with the coupon

     

     

    *$5 can only be used for a Daz Original, excludes New Releases, PC+ Items, Gift Cards & PC+ Memberships. Use coupon code at checkout. Coupon code expires October 29th, 2019

     

    Enjoy your coupon, as long as you don't use it on anything you want to buy during the sale. broken heart

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,085
    mmalbert said:

    I got the survey and I left the Platinum Club after the original Genesis figure was released.

    I joined the Plat Club back in 2007 and loved it, but by the time Genesis came out there was just less stuff that appealed to me and so I stopped renewing my membership.

    More decent male content would be an incentive for me to join again, but there'd have to be more variety than clothing based on popular TV shows,movies, etc. A large part of my M4 wardrobe came from the Plat Club but there hasn't been as much variety for later Genesis male figures. The outfits I did like I bought at regular store prices (but on sale.)

    Other recent PC items I've bought at regular-store-prices-but-on-sale include updates to old products, like BRC Cloisters, the Trinity Atrium, and Disconsolation Fallen. I've got the Hallowed Eve Revived in my wishlist. More updates to older products like this would interest me. What's mostly in my wishlist are props and environments. More than a few Petipet vehicles...

    I'd be a tough customer to bring back though because I have a ton of stuff, I am kinda picky in my shopping, and I don't buy character bundles (there are way too many of them these days anyway) and so while the discount coupons were nice, I don't really miss them much.

    I do miss the sneak peeks, but it seems those have gone by the wayside judging by comments here, and the crazy fun of some of the sales, like the ones where folks lobbied for votes. There were PC product freebies available on the PC forum too; I have no idea if those are still available. I remember some props, clothing textures, that sort of thing. I got at least one V4 outfit for free -- Urban Fae maybe?

    The weekly freebie is probably what I miss most, but I can still take advantage of one of them with a purchase, if I really want a particular freebie. My wishlist is 8 pages long; it's not hard to find something on sale to buy.

    For people starting out with DS, though, the PC is a fantastic deal and I'd recommend giving it a try for a few months at least. 

    And fwiw, I don't subscribe to Renderosity's version of the PC either, though I do buy a number of those items at the higher prices (but on sale, ha!)

    I quit the Platinum Club back when the store and forums changed software a number of years ago (probably around 2013)... there were a number of stupid PC issues which came about and took a while to be dealt with and I decided to wait for the problem to be fixed or addressed and by the time it appeared they were fixed, I realized I didn't really buy that much stuff that the savings were really worth it.  
    My feeling was DAZ missed a big opportunity back then to get back a bunch of former PC members who felt screwed over by those issues and difficulties... if they had offered a "Hey, sorry about the inconveniences or screw ups" discount to get those members back. But that's none of my business and that was made clear back then. 
    But on a happier note, I've saved money and felt less compelled to spend on stuff that I might not use, just because it was slightly cheaper... it takes forever, but occasionally the things on my wish list (most of it is old stuff) have come on sale and when they do I get them... over time I deleted a bunch of stuff there too because it was clear those things were never going on sale either... so more money saved because I forget them.

     

  • MisselthwaiteMisselthwaite Posts: 961

    I was thinking (from a completely self-serving POV) that they should run more sales that provide things in a useful sequence - themed sales.  I will not buy Yuzuru 8, because I don't own any G8 clothes, G8 morphs, or things that allow clothes to fit a G8.  At some point, if they created nudge-you-forward bundles or themed sales, hold-outs like me might dip their toes in ;-)  Not to say there are many of us, but it is an example of how a non-mega themed sale could work.

    I don't like the idea of culling - but I don't also understand how someone can look at a cool prop and go, 'Meh!  It's old!'  I use a million bits & bobs in my work, and I literally wouldn't shop here if it wasn't for the neat, old, and reasonably-priced things I pick up here on a pretty regular basis.  I buy many things 'on spec', far more than I buy things for a specific and immediate purpose.

  • frankrblowfrankrblow Posts: 2,052

    I got my $5.00 coupon for the survey, but when I tried it on https://www.daz3d.com/dine-on-the-orient  (which is not new and not PC) alone in my cart, I get a "Coupon code...not valid".

    I will wait a little, and see if it comes good.

     

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  • AlmightyQUESTAlmightyQUEST Posts: 2,006
    Not new, not PC, but it's also not a DAZ Original so the coupon won't work on that.
  • MelanieLMelanieL Posts: 7,740
    dragonfly_2004 said:

    I got my $5.00 coupon for the survey, but when I tried it on https://www.daz3d.com/dine-on-the-orient  (which is not new and not PC) alone in my cart, I get a "Coupon code...not valid".

    I will wait a little, and see if it comes good.

     

    That's not a DAZ Originnal - my coupon says it can be used "for a DAZ Original, excludes New Releases, PC+ Itmes, Gift Cards & PC+ Memberships".

    On the down side - mine doesn't seem to work anyway. I've tried three different DOs of various ages (even  a Genesis 2 item) but no deal. Nothing else in the cart, items prices varied from $6-ish to $14

     

  • kenshaw011267kenshaw011267 Posts: 3,805
    AlmightyQUEST said:
    Not new, not PC, but it's also not a DAZ Original so the coupon won't work on that.

    I just tried it on an item that is definitely not new, not PC+ and definitely DO. Doesn't work

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/zdhp84z2baz1tk9/Screenshot 2019-10-18 14.02.42.png?dl=0

  • dragovianknight_eb861ff4b8dragovianknight_eb861ff4b8 Posts: 24

    I tried it on multiple Daz Original items and it wasn't valid for any of them.

  • AlmightyQUESTAlmightyQUEST Posts: 2,006
    Definitely possible the coupon isn't active yet even though the emails went out, it just happened that the first example of someone trying it in the thread was trying to use it on a non-DO.
  • EboshijaanaEboshijaana Posts: 545

    Neither working here, despite clearly usinf DO products.

  • MelanieLMelanieL Posts: 7,740

    Looks like it (or they got the code wrong in the email?) Well at least it's supposed to last until the 29th of October, so a few days for them to fix it.

  • frankrblowfrankrblow Posts: 2,052
    edited October 2019
    AlmightyQUEST said:
    Not new, not PC, but it's also not a DAZ Original so the coupon won't work on that.

    Sorry, but the coupon can ONLY be used on a DO, according to the email.

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  • N-RArtsN-RArts Posts: 1,606

    I've tried several DO items and a Pro Bundle, and it isn't working on anything :/

  • MJ007MJ007 Posts: 1,716

    Nope.  Not working on anything for me either.  Last tried it on:
    https://www.daz3d.com/sci-fi-lab
    and that was a No Go.

    -MJ

  • XelloszXellosz Posts: 855

    Probably it will be good from Monday? 

  • Daz Jack TomalinDaz Jack Tomalin Posts: 13,830

    Reported it..

  • Daz Jack TomalinDaz Jack Tomalin Posts: 13,830

    Can someone please put an eligible item in their cart, that doesnt work, and leave it in your cart

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,612

    Done.

  • Daz Jack TomalinDaz Jack Tomalin Posts: 13,830
    edited October 2019
    MJ007 said:

    Nope.  Not working on anything for me either.  Last tried it on:
    https://www.daz3d.com/sci-fi-lab
    and that was a No Go.

    -MJ

    Can you please confirm that you have received the code from filling out the survey?

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  • AlmightyQUESTAlmightyQUEST Posts: 2,006
    edited October 2019
    dragonfly_2004 said:
    AlmightyQUEST said:
    Not new, not PC, but it's also not a DAZ Original so the coupon won't work on that.

    Sorry, but the coupon can ONLY be used on a DO, according to the email.

    ... Correct? Maybe quoted the wrong post.
    Post edited by AlmightyQUEST on
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