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Yesterday the same with the flash sale. There was an outfit where I only need one piece and not really the rest but the discount was good so I went for it.
I also second the option to build your own bundle for the DO characters or other offerings. For people trying to expand their library it's attractive to have offers when you have the chance to buy a collection of stuff although it costs much but you get a lot. Kind of when you have to spend in order to save, so to speak. It becomes less attractive when you already own a lot, sure. So if that option would be offered to PC+ members I would feel 5his as a real benefit to PC+ users and be attractive for new users.
We need to come up with ideas that will benefit the store as well as the end-users. So one of the problems mentioned above is that a number of PC items are outdated. I still like them because it isn't too difficult to add a shader, some of them still look great at a distance, or you can take them into substance painter or blender and quickly modify the textures, giving them a whole new lease on life. After I modify the textures, I then save it to a file and never look at it again, as I'm sure a lot of other people do.
A number of programs come with user libraries. Substance Designer has substance share. Steam has steam workshop etc. These are places where users can upload free "mods" to the store for the community to use, and some of the items are really good quality. I don't think Daz wants a library full of cheap 3d models because someone has to test them and prepare them, and they end up causing more trouble than it's worth, but textures are different. They are really easy to create and moderate, and there isn't all that much that can go wrong with them. What if Daz offered the community the ability to submit material presets for older items? You can even have competitions like the current render contests, where we have to retexture 1 of 10 selected models. If the textures are good enough, the winners get a reward, and the textures are uploaded to a free library that's available to all PC+ members. (The reward could even go towards renewing your membership for those who can't afford it) That way the old items get a new lease on life incentivising people to buy them, we have a new, fun competition, and it gives people another reason to remain in the club.
That would meant that many people here would get a discount from 25-100% on everything.
Oh yeah, that would be very interesting to me. The questions about PC+ tutorials got me thinking, and the #1 topic I'd like to see info on is custom content creation and best practices (provided Daz is interested in encouraging new vendors). To Jack's question about what would give PC+ value after we've bought all the content we want, for some people the investment arc seems to go from user to content creator at that point.
Ppl got surveys? Wait...what?? I never got a survey.
If Rendo is smart they won't even accept a product done PC+ user submitted because they would open themselves for legal liabilities. And if they accept such a product DAZ can demand they take the product down immediately and take action against said PC+ member.
People might share their creations as freebies although they are not allowed. While I can imagine this happens often with merchant resources - for HD morphs and dForce hair the appeal seems significantly lower to do this from a user's perspective. Or do we expect a steep increase of HD morph freebies or dForce hair uploaded via dropbox or sharecg if those tools becomes available for non-commercial use and prohibited for freebies?
This would be a great idea. Daz would be ideally placed to either set up their own render farm, or more immediately, act as a reseller and streamline access to Iray servers at Nimbix, AWS or whatever. Daz knows Daz Studio better than other companies that are currently offering these services to Daz users, and could theoretically provide a better user experience to Daz users and charge a premium for it. Daz has the precise kind of customer base that would be interested in that kind of service, as long as it's affordable.
This would be an especially attractive option for semi-casual users who have more money than time. In my experience playing MMORPGs, some of the people who spend most on Pay-to-Win offerings are that kind of customer. One of the most off-putting things about starting off with Daz, in addition to the learning curve, is how agonizingly slow getting a satisfactory image can be due to render times on machines not yet optimized for rendering. It could also be an attractive alternative for PAs who could focus on creating new and better assets while sending off their renders to cook somewhere else.
This would be a far better approach to increasing revenue than trying to sell gold stars for forum avatars.
Here is where all of that falls apart:
1) Users view license agreements as mumbled suggestions from crazy people; consider how often educational licenses are bootlegged....
2) Unlike resources, loosing control of propriatary tools becomes an infinite source of bootlegging which is why your computer security companies guard their proprietary tools or Coca Cola and Pepsi guard their recipes.
3) An outside vendor has no legal requirement to guard someone else intellectual property when the creator puts it out in public so you probably can't sue someone for selling the product of a tool so Daz3d wil have spent the money for the research and development but is donating it to their competitors....
I got the survey and I left the Platinum Club after the original Genesis figure was released.
I joined the Plat Club back in 2007 and loved it, but by the time Genesis came out there was just less stuff that appealed to me and so I stopped renewing my membership.
More decent male content would be an incentive for me to join again, but there'd have to be more variety than clothing based on popular TV shows,movies, etc. A large part of my M4 wardrobe came from the Plat Club but there hasn't been as much variety for later Genesis male figures. The outfits I did like I bought at regular store prices (but on sale.)
Other recent PC items I've bought at regular-store-prices-but-on-sale include updates to old products, like BRC Cloisters, the Trinity Atrium, and Disconsolation Fallen. I've got the Hallowed Eve Revived in my wishlist. More updates to older products like this would interest me. What's mostly in my wishlist are props and environments. More than a few Petipet vehicles...
I'd be a tough customer to bring back though because I have a ton of stuff, I am kinda picky in my shopping, and I don't buy character bundles (there are way too many of them these days anyway) and so while the discount coupons were nice, I don't really miss them much.
I do miss the sneak peeks, but it seems those have gone by the wayside judging by comments here, and the crazy fun of some of the sales, like the ones where folks lobbied for votes. There were PC product freebies available on the PC forum too; I have no idea if those are still available. I remember some props, clothing textures, that sort of thing. I got at least one V4 outfit for free -- Urban Fae maybe?
The weekly freebie is probably what I miss most, but I can still take advantage of one of them with a purchase, if I really want a particular freebie. My wishlist is 8 pages long; it's not hard to find something on sale to buy.
For people starting out with DS, though, the PC is a fantastic deal and I'd recommend giving it a try for a few months at least.
And fwiw, I don't subscribe to Renderosity's version of the PC either, though I do buy a number of those items at the higher prices (but on sale, ha!)
I just did the survey. I had to send it a few times and don't know if it arrived at all. Maybe Survey Monkey's commercial is the sign that the transmission worked...
I took the survey, only had to click done once, now I can't access my store credit, get some error page, so I don't even know if the credit has been added to my account. Of course I also don't know if that credit is only if I had the PC membership, which I don't.
I don't buy things because they are on sale, I buy them cause I need them for something, and on the rare ocassion I can grab a freebie with a purchase. 9 times out of 10 I can't afford even the things I need, yes they go on sale, rarely when I have money.
So I ask you, who really needs a discount here, those who already get a discount with their PC membership, or those who don't have that option.
I'll check my account again tomorrow, it's probably a glitch, they are so common these days.
Two things…
One, I've read that the store credit is supposed to be distributed next week. I assume it will be easier for CS to do all of them at once.
Two, anytime you check your Store Credit and get the error page, try putting something in your cart. It will probably take two tries with the first one not actually going into the cart. Then try the Store Credit page again. Someone taught me that trick, though the page hasn't errored for me since.
actually daz does have a render farm of sorts by the name of Jack Tomalin
Relative to the issue of the credit, I don't believe that the offer said specifically that those completing the survey would get a store credit perse, at least to the best of my recollection. I don't think that would work anyway, since I do recall that it said the $5 would be for the purchase of DAZ Originals only. That would seem to suggest that, when it arrives, the credit would be in the form of a coupon code that could only be applied to DO's. That's what I'm expecting to appear as a banner when logged into my account one of these days, but I guess we'll have to wait and see.
While that's true I run a render farm, it's not associated with Daz per se.. I think an official solution would have to be a bit more than 4 2080ti's stuck together:)
Quoting the email:
So, a coupon will be sent, either by mail or with a popup at the store.
I got a store credit for the $5 ... unfortunately though with the store's other issues atm, it isn't recognizing all PC memberships so it'll be awhile before I spend it!
that's why i said of sorts
and we know you
Just checked and I haven't gotten mine yet
Had you contacted CS? I did when the survey was only looping and would not complete. So maybe coupons come out later and I've got mine already?
On a happy note, they've fixed the PC membership recognition situation [at least over here] and so we're back to happy shopping! Shaders!!!
Sure it does. The $6 off $18 stacks with everything except Fast Grab and discounts which require you to enter some other coupon code. Normal 50% off this or that type of product stack with the $6 voucher just fine. I know, because if I had to buy products full price to use that voucher I'd have never used any of them, and I use mine just about every month. This month I used it on a fistful of "PC+ for the day" items and a "Friends of the sale" item at 55% off.
Please don't remove the old $1.99 content. There are some real gems among that stuff, and not everybody wants to use the latest and greatest. Maybe consider lowering the price of all two-generations-ago (i.e. currently G2) content to $1.99 though.
I am kicking myself for all the Collective 3D stuff I am missing each day in PC+ for the day by not renewing
but
I am also reminding myself as I look at my gas and electricity bills sitting by my phone I simply could not of rejoined and paid for all the goodies every day anyway
its an excellent subscription model but if you are broke you are broke, if DAZ put every pro bundle on sale for $5 today I still couldn't buy any
PMed you
I don't need anything 3D right now lovely as it all is, I just bought myself nut clusters instead and mangos
11K items in my DIM downloads I am OK
What? If the old $1.99 stuff ever disappeared so would me rejoining the PC+.
And I wouldn't think of rejoining ... People's point of view is obviously different.
I took a break recently, from art and daz and pc+ for quite a few months. I only came back to PC+ membership with the anniversary sale, as I was hoping to get membership on sale.
Keeping in mind these are just my personal opinions - what I think and what I would like to see could be the complete opposite of what someone else wants - here are some thoughts...
Like everyone else, things like forum avatars are not appealing to me at all (i find them kinda ridiculous actually) and exclusive products to PC members only also can create a bit of a bad aura - unless those items are always and forever available to the end of time. So you could come back to the PC membership if you dropped it, and those items would still be available to you. Not like the weekly freebies that you miss out on if you haven't renewed or even forgot they were there. The biggest drawback to PC to me is the price - and that's simply because of my own personal financial situation, and that I am not US based, and the US dollar is worth about 60c Aussie. So while things like the pro bundles are great deals if you are PC member, you can almost double the cost of them to us aussies, so they don't become such brilliant deals. But DAZ can't make everyone around the world happy all the time, so that's understandable.
Therein lies the problem :D