*New* LAMH Big Cats Support Thread *New*

Jewel DesignsJewel Designs Posts: 1,467
edited December 2013 in The Commons

LAMH Support is now its own thread!

I don't know what I am doing, or did, wrong. I downloaded the free LAMH to the correct location, and I purchased the real fur for Daz big cat 2, and everytime I click on the icons to add the real fur my system crashes. ????

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  • Alessandro MastronardiAlessandro Mastronardi Posts: 2,650
    edited December 1969

    I don't know what I am doing, or did, wrong. I downloaded the free LAMH to the correct location, and I purchased the real fur for Daz big cat 2, and everytime I click on the icons to add the real fur my system crashes. ????

    Please check that the LAMH player is correctly showing in the DAZ plugin list. Just to clarify, you just need to double click a lamh cat preset, there is no need to load the base cat figure first

  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,533
    edited December 1969

    I don't know what I am doing, or did, wrong. I downloaded the free LAMH to the correct location, and I purchased the real fur for Daz big cat 2, and everytime I click on the icons to add the real fur my system crashes. ????


    Unfortunately this is a regular occurrence for some with LAMH, sadly the plugin is not very stable.

  • DisparateDreamerDisparateDreamer Posts: 2,520
    edited December 1969

    Meh, the only time i have issues is when Daz "upgrades" a version of DS and then breaks EVERYTHING. I never should have left 4.5.... 4.6 made a mess of everything. So darn tired of reinstalling optitex trying to make it work again (it keeps stopping for no reason) and the pwShaders aren't working either.... considering there's so many versions of DS on people's machines and all of them break something or other or making something incompatible with something else.... More inclined to think its a DS caused problem. Dangit i want 4.5 back :(

    these cats are awesome tho and I can't wait to render up some gorgeous beasts!!!! Plus my toddler is cracking me up and today asked if we could have one of the tigers (well technically he said lion but meh he mixes them up) I think I'll be doing a bunch of tiger pics soon :)

  • Jewel DesignsJewel Designs Posts: 1,467
    edited December 1969

    Alessandro_AM, yes it shows up in my plugins, and I just tried clicking on only the icon for the real fur, and not loading the cat first, and once again it crashed. Very, very frustrated!!!! No way would I purchase the full version when the free trial crashes incessantly. Very disappointed as these renders look great! Any other ideas?

  • SorelSorel Posts: 1,412
    edited December 1969

    Alessandro_AM, yes it shows up in my plugins, and I just tried clicking on only the icon for the real fur, and not loading the cat first, and once again it crashed. Very, very frustrated!!!! No way would I purchase the full version when the free trial crashes incessantly. Very disappointed as these renders look great! Any other ideas?

    Do you have the latest files installed? I have the full version and had to download updates for it to stop crashing. Might need to do the same for the free version.

  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,533
    edited December 1969

    Meh, the only time i have issues is when Daz "upgrades" a version of DS and then breaks EVERYTHING. I never should have left 4.5.... 4.6 made a mess of everything. So darn tired of reinstalling optitex trying to make it work again (it keeps stopping for no reason) and the pwShaders aren't working either.... considering there's so many versions of DS on people's machines and all of them break something or other or making something incompatible with something else.... More inclined to think its a DS caused problem. Dangit i want 4.5 back :(

    these cats are awesome tho and I can't wait to render up some gorgeous beasts!!!! Plus my toddler is cracking me up and today asked if we could have one of the tigers (well technically he said lion but meh he mixes them up) I think I'll be doing a bunch of tiger pics soon :)

    Odd I have no problems with anything but the LAMH player.
    I'm also very reluctant to buy as the Big cat items including the LAMH presets are in the snowball promotion and can't be returned if bought in the first few days

  • Alessandro MastronardiAlessandro Mastronardi Posts: 2,650
    edited December 1969


    Odd I have no problems with anything but the LAMH player.

    How about providing some information on the issues you have? If you want you can email me describing the problems and sending log files: that would help us to find and solve issues.

  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,533
    edited December 1969


    Odd I have no problems with anything but the LAMH player.

    How about providing some information on the issues you have? If you want you can email me describing the problems and sending log files: that would help us to find and solve issues.

    Alessandro both you and Kendall have helped sort problems out on several occasions and this is what frustrates me, it just doesn't seem very stable.
    I did put a post in the LAMH player thread a while ago but it wasn't replied to.
    Old scenes have become corrupt, when loading the scene it gets to LAMH loading assets and DS crashes, and if I save anything with LAMH, if saving doesn't crash DS, that also becomes corrupt.
    The bug report says this -

    Exception reason
    DAZStudio.exe caused ACCESS_VIOLATION in module "C:\Program Files\DAZ 3D\DAZStudio4\plugins\lamhPlugin.64.dll" at 0033:000000000AC4E6AC, DzLine3::operator=()+706668 byte(s).

    I'm not the only one who is having problems.

  • Alessandro MastronardiAlessandro Mastronardi Posts: 2,650
    edited December 1969

    I understand but that (the crash report) doesn't help much , we need log files to understand the issues and some cooperation on testing.
    We also can't keep up reading all the threads and messages posted around, that's while we asked to address issues directly via email, so that we can keep track more easily.

  • JabbaJabba Posts: 1,461
    edited December 1969

    In case it helps anyone, I found the latest LAMH player via DAZ downloads crashes LAMH Big Cat - it's the latest beta that lets me load without crashing.

    The other sticky with the beta links... http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/33792/

  • Jewel DesignsJewel Designs Posts: 1,467
    edited December 1969

    I put in a ticket for a refund anyway. Selling items that do not work (crashes system) and stating no refunds available during the sale time is just not right. I purchased these items in good faith with the implied understanding that they work They can keep their snowballs. I have all the snow I want outside my window.

  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,533
    edited December 1969

    Jabba101 said:
    In case it helps anyone, I found the latest LAMH player via DAZ downloads crashes LAMH Big Cat - it's the latest beta that lets me load without crashing.

    The other sticky with the beta links... http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/33792/

    Ok I've downloaded that, and will install it and see what happens although I don't really like using beta's unless I am actually testing them

  • Jewel DesignsJewel Designs Posts: 1,467
    edited December 1969

    omg I did not mean to open up a can of worms. I posted here because I was hoping that someone here had already encountered this problem and knew how to fix it. There is a tremendous amount of information here in the forums and a wealth of knowledge that I was hoping I could tap into. I did delete the free version and download the free beta version. After getting an error of "out of memory" twice, and restarting my computer twice, I am now on my third try and have gotten further than I have so far, up to 70% completed. Keep your fingers crossed for me. The theory behind this program is remarkable if they can get it to work. I have a feeling there are many, many bugs to work out. I hope some day it works flawlessly.

  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,316
    edited December 1969

    And where does one get the beta player again?

    Is that what downloads if you have the player in your purchases account, or do you have to go find it somewhere else?

  • DisparateDreamerDisparateDreamer Posts: 2,520
    edited December 1969

    luannemarie how much memory is on your computer?? I haven't had any out of memory issues except on my 2gb ram netbook O.o my 4gb laptop can handle a good deal more and my 16gb ram only gets memory errors when i get carried away and have 3 instances of Daz rendering, one of poser, am modelling in sculptris and have 80+ chrome windows/tabs open and 20 IE explorer and GIMP open with about 12 images with 60-80 layers each ...

    Uh..... okay that pretty much shows how my state of mind works doesn't it.... yeah my work kind of goes like this... Oooo facebook...oh wait... email...other email...facebook...GAME! uh check all the stores....oooo...open every item in a new tab...SHINY..... go paint stuff in gimp...start a daz render ..>FACEBOOK!... Giiiiiimp gimp gimp...more coffee..... OOOO new sale....hmmm....still no money... wishlist wishlist.... new daz instance.... oh boo, dynamics not working again, open poser, lalala, drape, send to ds, start another drape.... in ds realize i need a shape...open sculptris to make it... lalala...email...facebook....

    and so it goes.... T_T and goes and goes.
    See why I need more memory? Because i need an upgrade in real life focus :P What was I talking about?

    Oh right. Luanne how much memory on your machine? are you using daz 32 or 64?

  • DisparateDreamerDisparateDreamer Posts: 2,520
    edited December 1969

    JOdel said:
    And where does one get the beta player again?

    Is that what downloads if you have the player in your purchases account, or do you have to go find it somewhere else?

    It's not in the store yet, no, the store player will not work for these yet.

    the beta is linked here: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/33792/ first post.

    It should be in the store quickly! :)

  • Kendall SearsKendall Sears Posts: 2,995
    edited December 1969

    JOdel said:
    And where does one get the beta player again?

    Is that what downloads if you have the player in your purchases account, or do you have to go find it somewhere else?

    We've asked that the beta Player version be put into the store since it has passed testing. As soon as QA approves it the DIM should be updated.

    Until then, see here: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/33792/

    Kendall

  • TrishTrish Posts: 2,625
    edited December 2013

    ok I am trying to make the fur is there a PDF anywhere anyone knows of it gets this far and that's it???? and it says rendering and stays that way forever....sorry confused again???? Trish

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  • Kendall SearsKendall Sears Posts: 2,995
    edited December 2013

    ok I am trying to make the fur is there a PDF anywhere anyone knows of it gets this far and that's it???? and it says rendering and stays that way forever....sorry confused again???? Trish

    You are seeing the "guide hairs" in this picture. It keeps your machine from completely bogging down trying to display the full fur. If you render, you will see the realistic fur. Depending on the speed of your machine and the number of hairs, it can take a significant amount of time.

    You can set the parameters via the LAMH pane, Window->Panes(Tabs)->Look at my Hair

    Kendall

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  • KeryaKerya Posts: 10,943
    edited December 1969

    ... Depending on the speed of your machine and the number of hairs, it can take a significant amount of time...

    Adding: depending on your render settings and the lights you are using ...

  • TrishTrish Posts: 2,625
    edited December 2013

    ok Thank you very much....I kinda figured it was a me problem....as I am confused real easy...I have never played with my purchase till now have been busy buying stuff on sale ...LOL

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  • TrishTrish Posts: 2,625
    edited December 2013

    This is what I have.....and I will probably get in trouble for this but it will run this program and not bog down (sorry no promo intended) that's why I don't know what I am doing wrong....I don't have any lights set up???? but it has been saying rendering for almost an hour and a half...Thanks in advance Trish how long should it take about????

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  • KeryaKerya Posts: 10,943
    edited December 1969

    This is what I have.....and I will probably get in trouble for this but it will run this program and not bog down (sorry no promo intended) that's why I don't know what I am doing wrong....I don't have any lights set up???? but it has been saying rendering for almost an hour and a half...Thanks in advance Trish how long should it take about????

    Nice system!!!
    Screenshot of the render settings?

  • TrishTrish Posts: 2,625
    edited December 2013

    ok this is what it is set on......I don't play with this part much except the size because I don't know that much about all the bells and buttons...I am really dumb when it comes to Studio...Bryce is my thing

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  • Alessandro MastronardiAlessandro Mastronardi Posts: 2,650
    edited December 2013

    ok I am trying to make the fur is there a PDF anywhere anyone knows of it gets this far and that's it???? and it says rendering and stays that way forever....sorry confused again???? Trish

    Trish, what LAMH version are you using? Is it latest beta?

    From the screenshot you posted, I saw that you covered all the cat parts (even eyes etc.) with guides. That will take much longer to compute and render. Better select follicles 'by surface' (there is such option), and select the 'body' surface only, so that hairs will be grown only on the body and not on unwanted surfaces.
    Also, how many hairs did you set up on export?
    If you like, save the preset to .lmh and email it to me, so that I can take a look at it. My email is: info_at_alessandromastronardi.com (replace "_at_" with "@").

    As a reference, on an i7 Q740 the tiger preset (1,5M hairs) took about 2 minutes with base DAZ lights and 6GB RAM.

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  • TrishTrish Posts: 2,625
    edited December 2013

    ok I am trying to make the fur is there a PDF anywhere anyone knows of it gets this far and that's it???? and it says rendering and stays that way forever....sorry confused again???? Trish

    Trish, what LAMH version are you using? Is it latest beta?

    From the screenshot you posted, I saw that you covered all the cat parts (even eyes etc.) with guides. That will take much longer to compute and render. Better select follicles 'by surface' (there is such option), and select the 'body' surface only, so that hairs will be grown only on the body and not on unwanted surfaces.
    Also, how many hairs did you set up on export?
    If you like, save the preset to .lmh and email it to me, so that I can take a look at it. My email is: info_at_alessandromastronardi.com (replace "_at_" with "@").

    That's what I am trying to tell you I am a dummy....I purchased it when you had it on sale this last time and this is the first time I have tried to play with it...must have been during the plat club sale I guess...I was trying to make my own fur...Do you have a PDF on how to use it??? If everyone would stop selling stuff I would have time to play with the stuff I already own....LOL

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  • Alessandro MastronardiAlessandro Mastronardi Posts: 2,650
    edited December 1969

    ok I am trying to make the fur is there a PDF anywhere anyone knows of it gets this far and that's it???? and it says rendering and stays that way forever....sorry confused again???? Trish

    Trish, what LAMH version are you using? Is it latest beta?

    From the screenshot you posted, I saw that you covered all the cat parts (even eyes etc.) with guides. That will take much longer to compute and render. Better select follicles 'by surface' (there is such option), and select the 'body' surface only, so that hairs will be grown only on the body and not on unwanted surfaces.
    Also, how many hairs did you set up on export?
    If you like, save the preset to .lmh and email it to me, so that I can take a look at it. My email is: info_at_alessandromastronardi.com (replace "_at_" with "@").

    That's what I am trying to tell you I am a dummy....I purchased it when you had it on sale this last time and this is the first time I have tried to play with it...must have been during the plat club sale I guess

    No problem Trish, if you have any questions I'm here to answer. I don't know if you found it in the files, but there is a manual that explains basic operations (http://www.furrythings.com/LAMH.Manual.1.0.pdf) and a YT channel with video tutorials at the following link:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc56g6BEO2k&list=PL_JdHHW5yFwbqeq6aJzKtfEdbpt9k4HY6

  • TrishTrish Posts: 2,625
    edited December 2013

    Thank you very much...That will help me a lot...That is what I needed a PDF appreciate the help...and I will check out the other link also....Trish

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  • TrishTrish Posts: 2,625
    edited December 1969

    Looks great Wendy...maybe I should just buy the fur and be done with it I was right in the middle of playing with the saber tooth and Studio crashed while I was making fur...sent in a bug report......Trish

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  • TrishTrish Posts: 2,625
    edited December 2013

    Wendy....Well I watched the videos and read the PDF but I do believe it is way over my head (that doesn't say much most things are) lol but you make your own clothes and great ones at that you can probably handle it ...I am buying the fur ....Thanks so much for posting your pictures of the fur....I am off to buy some now.....Trish

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