Does it dForce?
WillowRaven
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The idea for this thread started with another thread where I was asking if there was already a list of non-dFore items that play well with dForce, especially hair and clothing, but for this thread, even inanimate props would be cool (I'm visualizing melting clocks like a Dali painting). So if you know of any item that you've experimented with using dForce, and it worked great, post your image and/or links. And if the mod thinks this could be a useful thread, maybe sticky it.
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hahah You beat me to it, I was just about to open a thread with the same name. :) There's an old thread dedicated to showing the clothing that does well with dForce modifier applied to it, but the thread got kind of overrun with quite a bit of back and forth conversation which makes it more difficult to find the products that are listed that are dForce "friendly". Also, having a thread dedicated to showcasing items of all types (rugs, hats, pillows and bedding, etc etc) that may work well with dForce is good, imo. Hopefully it will also encourage people to try dForce on items that aren't just clothing items, but anything that you might want to be affected by gravity or other objects in the scene.
I REALLY hope that with this thread people keep the posts limited to showcasing products or items that do well with dForce only. There are a few other threads dedicated to experimenting and sharing dForce settings tips, etc, so it would be great to try and keep this one as just a showcase of the different items and products that the community has found that does well with dForce modifiers applied.
On that note. Here are two outfits I recently tried dForce with that seem to work well.
Autumnal Outfit for Genesis 8 Female
Because it's a layered outfit I recommend giving each clothing item a different Collision Layer setting. I also turned Self Collide Off.
Day at the Mall for Genesis 2 Female
Self Collide needs to be set to Off or the pants explode (at least it did with my first sim, after I turned Self Collide off it simed great).
Looking back through my render library, it looks like most of what I've used dForce on has been from the other store, but there is something from this store I have simmed in my gallery.
Maxi Dress for Genesis 3 Females (Image right)
It's probably not a great revelation that a dress dForces reasonably well, but as it's in an old Pro Bundle, there's a good chance many of you have already got it, so it's worth mentioning.
It needs a weight map to turn dynamics off around the top half, as this has unwelded seams, but otherwise works well to drape the dress.
These look great. And I agree we need to keep this thread on point. When you load your links and images, if there were any special setting or tricks you had to do, a short description of 'how' would help any newbies.
Divamakeup, maybe you could set up a wiki page we could include the link here for all the links, even allow access for people to revise and include links to non-Daz-store items so no one gets in trouble?
Sounds like a neat idea, but sadly I don't have the time for the upkeep of a site page like that. That takes a lot of time and dedication to adding new links and info and keeping everything up to date. It would be a cool idea, just not something I'd have the time (or skill) to undertake.
I was thinking once initially set up, people could add their own links, but you're right.
Ladies and gentlemen, here is the Retro Skirt, by Cute3D, available here and released for G3 years ago and it simulates beautifully with dForce. Since it comes with several morphes, it has plenty of polygons, so, that makes very complex folds in the simulation process. I didn't waist my time trying to simulate the top included in this set, since it comes with buttons and I didn't want to get DS crashing.
Please, note that the top showed in these pictures does not come with the skirt.
https://www.daz3d.com/daydream
from Genesis (1); deforces great, many dresses and skirts need something, but as it is a simple dress and all one mesh it is a quick simulation setup. Apply dforce modifier and hit simulate usually works fine.
Even applying a quite extreme pose doesn't cause issues.
...every time I see the title of this thread, I keep thinking of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpP3rrNoEqo
The shirt looked natural already, Barzoff, so no need to drape it, anyway. :) I'm definitely gonna grab that skirt (and shirt if you add the link).
Don't forget to include links with renders, everyone. :)
Thanks for sharing how you did it, nicstt. I'm very new to 4.10 and dForce and still learning, so all tips help.
kyoto kid ... I'm not trying to be rude or mean, but we want to keep this thread narrowed to renders of non-dForce items that work well when simulated and links to those items and helpful setting for simulation. There are plenty of casual chit-chat threads already.
For the shirt, here you go: https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/dforce---wench-top-and-dress-for-g8f/124962/
and for the retro skirt: https://www.daz3d.com/retro-skirt-for-genesis-3-female-s
By the way, the shirt is naturally dForce.
Enjoy!
Has anybody tried to dforce non dforce hair?
Miranda Hair for Genesis 3 & 8 Females does a prety good job with mild amounts of dForce added.
Here it is with enough dForce applied for the hat to push it down, and her hands to move the hair.
That looks really good. Could you explain how you did it?
Anyone have menswear 1930 for m4 to test in dForce?
I tried and DS crashed.
It's no secret that Furisode works great with dForce!
Thanks .. Good to know .. but now I need to find a dynamic suit somewhere, lol.
Gorgeous ... What settings or tricks did you use?
Thanks!
dForce settings are "out of the box". I loaded the kimono without fitting it to the character, then manually positioned the character within the garment. Then I ran the simulation, using the timeline. The belt was auto-fitted to the character after the simulation.
Still on my quest for a gangster-style suit from the Capone days ... how does this suit (grantham hall suit) dForce? Anyone have it in their runtime to run a test?
Kind of?
The pants dForce fine, imo. No problems there. To get it to KIND OF work you need add the dForce modifier to the pants and jacket only (don't do the waistcoat), and turn "Start from Memorized Posed Off" in the Simulation Settings tab, and turn the dynamic strength of the Buttons, Thread, and Pockets to zero percent on the jacket (otherwise the pockets, thread, and buttons fall off). Set the Jacket's Collision Item to the waistcoat in the Parameters tab.
It sims "ok" after that. Not great, but ok.
Grantham Hall Suit with the above modifications. So it "kind of" dForces. I only recommend it if you don't mind putting in the work to fiddle with the settings and all that. And even then it doesn't sim perfectly with having to turn the dynamic strength of the pockets and buttons to zero, so the pockets don't hang as naturally as one would like.
lol Thanks. Though I just ran it through a couple of tests and experiments. :) It's a really nice suit and looks great in Iray without any adjustments really needed to the textures (imo). I bought it a while back but hardly every render males so this was my first time giving it a spin in Iray. It's a very nice suit. I wish it dForced better but considering it's age it's pretty cool that it dForces at all. I've had a lot of older clothing simply explode on me. lol
Agreed, @Divamakeup ... looks much better than any conforming suit I've found. I consider this a good option. Thanks for testing it for me & the good details, too.
@Divamakeup you've made that suit look amazing!
The Double Breasted Suit for Genesis 2 Male is probably a more typical gangster style suit. Even my dad is in a picture wearing such a suit and winds up looking like a gangster. Ugh! He wasn't but those suits are iconic movie stereotype.
How's it dForce?
You're welcome. :) Happy to help - plus it gave me an excuse to finally render it and test it for myself. It's a pretty nice suit and I was surprised how good it looked without any texture adjustments needed.
lol Thank you, @Mollytabby ! That's sweet of you to say. It's a really nice suit and renders pretty well in Iray. The textures looking that good in Iray was a pleasant surprise.
Cool Lace Outfit for Genesis 8 Female
I was happy to see that it dForces nicely. It looks like no adjustments are really needed - at least in the tests I did with it. Just pop the dForce Modifier onto it and it's good to go! :)
Teen Kitty Outfit for Genesis 8 Female
It looks like it dForces pretty well. I recommend setting the Dynamic Strength on the collar to 0, but other than that it does fine without any other adjustments. :)