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The reviews on YouTube are coming in now. And they're not happy about it. Here are some starting points:
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so it appears the bottom line is not to buy them , there are better. Done
Now someone please put a link to affordable Iray rendering system ... that meets everyone's high standards. Thanks
The most important part of the system is really going to be the video card. Depending on what you already have, you just replace the GPU and maybe add some system memory. If you're looking at a laptop, then you have to pick one with a good GPU with enough onboard to handle rendering, and have enough memory for running everything.
the only GPU I can get into my current system is a small form 1050ti .. plus a power supply. it is pegged at 16 gig memory. not worth the "upgrade" cost. I need to buy a complete system, but the pricing of GPU is ridiculous high.
Still the driver of a good Iray system is going to be the video card, so you'll be looking at system with a sufficent card in it, with memory.
The takeaway I got from these reviews is that there is NO cooling in the case because of bad design choices. Yes, there are three intake fans in the front of the case. But the front panel is tempered glass with no openings and the side panels overlap the front panel. There also are no filters to keep dust out, but since the air can't get to the fans anyway that's not a problem. And thus the dire predictions about the life span.
...however one could probably get a rig with similar specs using a more reliable PSU, decent MB, and a case with excellent airflow that is also put together better than this for about as much if not a bit less .
I certainly wouldn't waste 2,200$ to have an expensive GPU and CPU in a case with almost no airflow, along with a cheap no-name PSU and low end MB (with no additional DIMM or PCIe slots).
I saw the video as well, and seeing the intake fans blocked by the glass panel, I wondered how air would cool the interior if it can't even get in.
Several reviews are in now and basically the ystem is somewhat mismatched for its "gaming uses".
And most pre-builts for gaming can have eitehr better components for the same price or similar(or better) parts for significantly less cost.
My System Order: Spent about $2500 at iBuyPower
Decent case with 2 front and 1 rear fan. RGB Case and RGB Fans. 1 added RGB lighting strip and Advance Cabling Options Professional Wiring for looks but mostly good airflow.
Motherboard ASROCK Z390 PHANTOM GAMING 4-IB -- 802.11ac WiFi, USB 3.1 (1 Type-C, 3 Rear, 4 Front), ASRock Super Alloy This is a FAST MoBo and I went with Memory 32 GB [8 GB x4] DDR4-3000 Memory Module, Processor Intel® Core™ i7-9700K Processor (8x 3.60GHz/12MB L3 Cache) So 8 cores (edit:)8 threads and has Processor Cooling iBUYPOWER 240mm addressable RGB liquid cooling system. When I drop out of the GPU this should more than handle the type of renders I plan to do and also some other design work.
Power Supply 1050 Watt - Standard 80 PLUS Gold, Full Modular to power everything including Intel Optane Memory Accelerator 32GB Intel Optane Memory - Boost Primary Drive Up to 23x Faster Primary Hard Drive 4 TB Seagate Barracuda PRO Hard Drive -- 128MB Cache, 7200RPM, 6.0Gb/s - Single Drive and Data Hard Drive 4 TB Seagate Barracuda PRO Hard Drive -- 128MB Cache, 7200RPM, 6.0Gb/s - Single Drive giving plenty of room for my GIGS of DAZ assets and lots of video data files for my design work. Windows 10 Home OS.
Now for the video card Video Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti - 11GB (VR Ready) - FREE Upgrade to NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 8GB ... I WANTED the 1080TI but it does not exist at any reasonable price so hopefully we will get some upgrades to the other features of the 2080. It is only 8G of VRAM but it is faster and newer and the CUDA count is only about 15% less.
Wifi and LAN and Sound Card 3D Premium Surround Sound on MoBo. Good USB 3 ports and I added another 4 for a lot of editting accessories with direct connection to the MoBo.
iBUYPOWER High Performance Gaming Mouse Pad, GAMDIAS EROS E1 Multi-Color Gaming Headset, iBUYPOWER MEK 2 RGB Mechanical Gaming Keyboard [Blue Switches]- RGB Customizeable LED Backlight Keys. Game Bundle - Get the Call Of Duty: Black Ops 4 full game, Mouse iBUYPOWER Gaming Optical Mouse - Multi-Color LED Lighting
iBUYPOWER SafeGuard Packaging iBUYPOWER Specialized Advanced Packaging System - Protect your investment during transportation!
Warranty 3 Year Standard Warranty Service
No Monitor, shipping included. I am happy to be able to put my programs on the primary drive rather than split off from small SSD 250G I have now and then TWO other 3T that I have now. I shopped a couple of other places but the specials and options I wanted were the cheapest at iBuyPower. I really DID consider a DIY build but their Cyber Monday Sale for my system config beat all the other integrators by $500-900 and even beat a DIY by a few bucks so seemed worth it to just go ahead and get what I needed and move forward.
Thanks for all the information and suggestions.
The best bang for the buck is build your own. I've done it 3 times. But I'm no longer in a position to do this anymore. However, there are at least two service and repair shops I know of that will do assembly for a reasonable fee - and this in an area where the large population center is about 55,000, and the shop I went with is located in a village with a population of 3,500. I drive past both shops weekly; there may be more, but I didn't bother looking.
January of 2015 I took a tower case and a tote of components in the original packaging into the shop on a Monday. The same week, on Wednesday, I picked up the system - $3,300 in parts I supplied, along with 4 internal drives harvested from a dead system, and a total charge of $345 for assembly, burn-in, and Windows 8.1 pro downgraded to Windows 7 pro installed.
Look around - check what's available in the way of shops in your area - tap the forums for configurations suggestions - and get the system you want at a price you can afford AND have an outfit that can provide software and hardware support that knows you if you need them in the future.
...Jazzy Bear that's a pretty decent deal for only 300$ more than the seemingly anemic Overpower system.
I have a 240GB SSD on the way (to replace the old 256 GB boot/application HDD) I purchased for 28$ during Cyber Monday. The boot drive on my system only holds the OS, system/security utilities, and main programmes (Like Daz, Hexagon, Carrara, Gimp etc). All content, scene files and rendered images, go on the Library drive, all archives (like programme installers, DIM installs & such) go on a separate storage drive.
i7 97000k is an 8 core 8 thread CPU. you have to go up to the i9 9900k to get the 8 core 16 thread cpu.
...wpps, haven't kept on top of the latest CPUs as they only support W10.
@kenshaw okay 8/8 still works for my needs... I forgot when I was jumping up and down processors where the fropoff was. 3am is a bad time to plae a system order LOL
I looked at AMD but they were not offering similar heavy discounts.
I was not really trying to future proof this system as I tend to get new rig every 2 to 3 years if I can make the money with it to buy a newer on. Wish I could just rent a rig for $100/month and have it grow with me!
@KKid: Yep For about the same price as OverPowereed, I feel I got a lot more performance, certainly quality at certain levels and more usability. Even for gaming alone I think this system will outperform and I COULD OC this system a couple of steps if I wanted too... but I do not plan to do that.