OT - Walmart selling new OverPowered Brand Render Rig (Several Reviews Now)
JazzyBear
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Well THIS is interesting. ESportsGame Arena is making Overpowered(Brand) Gaming PC's for sale at Walmart.
The OP Gaming Desktop DTW3 towers over the rest. Fueled by the processing speed of an Intel i7 processor like its siblings, it brings even more firepower with the Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080TI graphics, the most potent GPU we offer. An explosive 32GB of memory and a 2TB HDD / 512GB SSD combination rounds out the specs for this dynamic gaming machine. Theres no better way to ignite your game.
- Processor Intel i7-8700 CPU 3.2Ghz
- Graphics NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080TI GPU with 11GB VRAM
- Memory 32GB RAM 2400 Ghz
- Storage 2TB HDD
- 512GB SSD
- Windows 10
- VR Ready
- Ports on Top: 1x Mic input, 1x Headphone, 2x USB 3.0, 1x USB 2.0
- Motherboard Ports: 1x PS/2 Mouse/Keyboard, 1x DVI Port, 1x VGA Port, 1x HDMI Port, 1x Display Port, 1x USB-C, 2x USB 2.0, 3x USB 3.1, 1x Ethernet Port, 1x Audio Jack x6
- Graphics Card Ports: 1x HDMI Port, 3x Display Port, 1x DVI port
Power supply size/type and motherboard maker are not specified.
Looks like decent price for tried and true tech.
Thoughts?
EDIT: The review is on Youtube and by Gamers Nexus. The title starts: Walmart Gaming PC... Posted 11/23/2018
As ALWAYS from ANY YouTuber there is FLAMBOYANT/OUTRAGEOUS Clickbait picture and Caption and longer title. That is why the link is not posted here.
FWIW GN has a legit reputation for REASONS of their opinions and is RECOGNIZED by the PC industry VENDORS as a Reasonable Reviewer. They often provide gear for review. GN purchased this PC themselves, but were sent the wrong items. What came was reviewed anyway. See my comments and others on Page 3 of this post.
EDIT 11/29 pg4 My System Selection
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...I'd try to get the specs on the MB, PSU, drives, memory and case (airflow is important as 1080Ti's can draw up to 250w during rendering) and check reviews for reliability particularly considering the vendor. 2,100$ is still a pretty big chunk of change
I think it's overpriced by about $500 - $600 but then they are a business selling that they did your shopping and pc build work for you.
Well lets add some things up.
1080ti $700
8700 non-k $300
32GB ram $200+ at least
Ugly case with "OP" on the side $100
500GB SSD $85
2TB HDD $50
Windows 10 $120
Motherboard ??? I can't imagine it having a very fancy motherboard, no way its more than $150 and that's very generous.
Power supply ??? I'm going to guess the PSU is 600 Watts. Maybe $60 as its probably nothing special.
No keyboard or mouse
Does it use an aftermarket CPU cooler? Given that Intel's are quite terrible.
It doesn't look too great of a deal. Now that the mining craze is over we can once again recommend building your own to save money. During the mining craze GPUs were so inflated that buying pre built actually was a decent option. That's over, and building your own allows you to choose exactly what goes in. 32GB is indeed overkill for gaming. 16 is all you need at the very most. So this spec surprises me a bit. They could have saved $100 and got it under the $2000 price tag.
...32 GB is useful for other purposes though.
Yeah, my feeling is the MB, case, PSU, and drives are probably where they cut corners.
...and likely no aftermarket cooler on an Intel 7th generation i7. Crikey I have one on my old 1st generation i7 930. Besides that I have 7 fans in my case including dual exhaust fans on the top one large one on the left side panel right by the GPU card.
it seems awesome, but the memory is 2400. 8700 not 8700k
there are actually 3 models of desktop and some laptops ...
article on Toms Hardware. read the comments.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/walmart-overpowered-gaming-pcs-desktop-laptop,37998.html
walmart page
https://www.walmart.com/search?query=overpowered&redirect=false&u1=jo5td98mo2000a1704wzg&oid=618726.1&wmlspartner=QKfOgZNb5HA&sourceid=00143403414162230599&affillinktype=10&veh=aff
the second one with a 1080 seems a bit better, at least cheaper
no specs on the comapny site either ..Wonder if they price dump for Black Friday
https://www.opowered.com/
It is pretty much targeted at gamers, though. That case with large OP on the side with "OVERPOWERED" on the front scream gamer so loudly that many non gamers would probably turn away unless the price is amazing. I play games and I wouldn't touch that case. I supposed someone could place a sticker over those logos, but that seems silly on a $2100 PC. If I am spending that kind of cash, I want everything to be the way I personally want it. There are better deals to be had. If this was cheaper I'd be less adverse, but again its $2100.
Usually if they don't bother posting a part's spec, like mobo and PSU here, there is a reason, being they are cheap.
Waiting for the specific specs to see how much they cut corners.
@outrider where is a place I can put together a similar machine for a better price? I keep running into $2500+ range. If I could get some quality parts in the $2k range I can finally get a new PC I really need!
I honestly can't imagine buying a PC from Wallyworld. Food, automotive items, sporting goods, even the occasional clothing items, but not a PC. That's like getting a lobster thermidor from McDonalds, LOL
I'm not impressed; if it was all top quality components I would still think a little high.
An example: 2 x USB2. Seriously!
Agreed, and those are two components one should definitely NOT cut corners on.
...yeah though not as bad as those cases that look like they'd transform into a killer robot when your back was turned. 4 fans but only one small exhaust fan on the back to pull out all the heat. My old P-193 has two top exhaust fans as well and looks elegant. Yeah I'd think about aftermarket water cooling for that 1080 Ti (if it will fit).
The other part that troubles me, this isn't a "resell" of another brand like an iBuyPower or CyberPower system. This is Walmart's own in house attempt at their own branded line of gaming PCs. Personally I'd go with a company that is just in the business of building computers not one that sells everything from diapers to ground beef.
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Hence why it is recommended to build your own. That may sound scary, It did for me back in the day. But it really is not that difficult. And if you are really concerned, you could buy the parts and pay someone a bit to build it, and probably still spend less than $2100 and use higher quality parts on top of that. We don't even know what model of 1080ti is used here.
they sell similar for ibuypower for 1399. even Dell does better overall but their propritary components suck. For instance my system wont fit certain lengths of graphics card. also pegeed out at 16gb ram. power supply underspeced.
Been looking at ibuypower but seem to end up way past 1500
I like buying used Dell Precision Workstations. Just picked up my second one, a T3610. Plenty of memory slots and since they are server class you can get them with dual CPU's. I picked up that T3610 with 32 GB of RAM, Dual 8 core Xeons, a 1 TB SSD drive and Windows 10 for $810 on e-bay. My other machine is a T5500 with dual quad core processors and a 970 video card. I want to get a 1080 for the new one...
This is rather what I did for a desktop as well, only instead of a Dell Workstation, I got an HP workstation with two 8 core Xeons and 64 gigs of ram. Threw in a 980ti and it's worked well. Thinking of upgrading the card, but only if I think I really need it. I render a lot less lately, so I might just stick with what I have for awhile ;)
Laurie
I don't know where you live but you can always check on a local builder for a quote.
The Walmart PC has a 1 year limited warranty, with offers for extended warranties. $58 for 3 years, and $77 for 5 years. I find that interesting. The warranty is covered by SquareTrade, which is under Allstate. I have done numerous service calls for their warranties, and they are a bit weird, but they seem alright. They tend to resolve things about as fast or faster than some of the warranty companies I have seen. Walmart warranties used to be handled by National Electronics Warranty (NEW). Amazon and Costco use SquareTrade. However I do not know how SquareTrade handles PC repairs. I also do not know if the extended warranty starts when you buy or if it starts after the initial 1 year warranty ends. For other devices, the extended warranty only starts after that first year.
Don't forget to compare warranties of where ever you buy from. There can be key differences in how they are done and what they cover. Sometimes even if they use the same warranty company the terms can still be different between stores.
If you build yourself most PC parts have 3 year warranties from manufacturers, and some places offer extended warranties on the parts.
Like someone pointed out earlier, they really should post the power supply specs, especially with all the power hungry components inside (1080ti, i7 8700, 32Gb RAM). I'd hold off on buying it until some reviews start surfacing on it. The price doesn't seem bad for a fully assembled and tested PC. It would be nice to know what motherboard chipset/manufacturer and how many empty slots it has (for future upgrades).
Your numbers look about right. It could be a decent deal if it has good components for the RAM, motherboard, and PSU but we don't know.
JazzyBear, I wouldn't buy now as there are too many unknowns. There's big performance differences between budget SSD or M2 storage vs higher quality offerings. Cheaper motherboards don't have as good integrated sound, cheaper power supplies don't provide as good clean/stable power, etc. It's a premium price without knowing if there are premium components in it. Interesting Walmart is jumping in, I'm sure someone will review one when they come out.
i find it very strange there are no complete specs., especially at that price. I suppose there may be gamers that don;t care and just look at what it is up front? No research, etc
I would rather it be an 8700K as well .. and faster ram.
I used to do Walmart customer service. (Please don't hold it against me!) So here's the deal. Coverage starts at purchase for things the manufacturer's warranty excludes--accidental damage to cell phones or power surges to electrical/electronic items are usually not covered by a manufacturer's warranty. For things that are covered, the extended warranty kicks in only when the manufacturer warranty period ends.
Also note that for electronics, including computers, Walmart's return period is 15 days, not 90 days, and only with receipt,* whether in-store or online purchase. After that time, you have to deal with the manufacturer or extended warranty company--the most we can do is give you the warranty/manufacturer contact info. Now, for purchases during the holiday period (usually mid-November or Black Friday through Christmas Eve.), the return clock doesn't start ticking until December 26, or it has in the past worked this way--but you'll still need that receipt for a computer. :)
If your any good with a screw driver you can pretty much build the same computer for about 1600.00
I live in a decent sized area but no real custom PC builders. I am hoping for an early review but I would think by the end of next week at the latest someone will have reviewed it. I am stuck at home so I can not go to Walmart once they start shipping to check the details.
Hoping for ASUS motherboard... 3k or faster? ram. Nice if it could take 64 later. Def need PS level and size info. I guess knowing brand of 1080ti would be good too. SSD maker and if the CPU has extra/direct cooling and what that would be. For some reason I thought I read that the case had pro wire routing but the lighting was not specd as LED versus RGB.
I thought for the price... above info yet to come... it might be a decent bargain for a ready built. Also as this is a flagship product for ESPORTS ARENA I was hoping they had decided to go mid-range to higher end quality components.
I have not built a PC for over 20 years now, but I could. I have some physical limitations that are the real issue. I used to spec and design PCs waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back at the start... well of the first 386 processors. Worked for a local midwest manufacturer. Interesting how far things have come from my first PC compatible in the early 80's!
To all the people saying you can build this for $1300 or $1600, you know the GPU is $720 and the CPU is $320, so you're getting the rest of the components for around $550? That's gonna be some seriously low crade crap, especially the RAM. Stop running the system down just because it's Walmart.
No custom PC builders? nonsense. Check around some teenager will be happy to pick up some change or watch a YT vid and do it yourself. Anyone can build a PC. It takes a philips screwdriver and some patience.
Never buy a prebuilt, eever. Especially from some crap brand like Wal-Mart. They skimp on the parts they don't spec. It will have the Intel box cooler, which even for the locked CPU is inadequte. The PSU will just barely be able to handle the system's rated draw which means it's lifespan will be short. The MoBo will likely be an mATX so little if any expansion capacity, and difficult to replace anything if something does fail.
The machine as specced should cost no more than $1400US, they buy in enough bulk to be able to sell below street prices for the components not at a $400 premium at least on those components. If you want to spend 2k on a system buy this: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kTBvYT
When I built the list it came in at $1831.91 and is far more robust and expandable than the piece of junk Wal-Mart is selling and all the components are top grade and have warranties. And anyone who can handle a screwdriver and watch a youtube video can build the PC.
It is over-simplistic to assume most folks can actually build a PC nowadays. Not they that they shouldn't be able, but seriously people are ignorant... not stupid, just truly unknowing and not able to discern a good YT video from a bad. And really not having a few real tools and anti-static protection is crap! I personally have had my hands in building several hundred PCs professionally, but I am now physically disabled and have some mobility issues. I do have a buddy that I could have help though and it is a serious consideration.
I do like the system listed above from PCPartPicker but I have had too many issues with AMD over the past couple of decades so I will stick with Intel. I could tweak that a bit for my needs and the prices is where I can make it happen now.
The OP listing is NOT a Walmart Brand. We will have to see how good or cheap it really is. At the very least it may help drive prices lower for 1080TI systems and that works for me!
I am really interested in the fact that NON-PC companies may start having their own branded system created and how this might affect the PC market.
Well now things get more interesting... https://www.walmart.com/cp/4772074 this is for 3 new INHOUSE Esports Mini-Arenas in Walmarts. With more set to open soon.
Reminds me of the old LAN Party locations that popped up all over a few years back before broadband internet was common.
Anyone used to lug a machine and monitor to a friends house to play?