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...true dat. If you don't do your research properly you can ruin hundreds (thousands) I was also fortunate to have a mentor worth of hardware in an instant. I spent nearly 18 months researching and studying in my spare time after work before embarking on building my first system. I was also fortunate to have a mentor in a friend who could almost build a system with his eyes closed.
JazzyBear, I totally agree. For decades, I built my own PCs. I did rather well. But then, around 2009, everything went wrong for me. I just don't recall making any mistakes with my builds. But the entire process had become too overwhelming. Around that time I got my first Macintosh computer, and just loved the way it worked "out of the box."
Now I'm older, and more easily frustrated. I admit that a PC is better for DAZ Studio's demands. But I am totally overwhelmed when even trying to plot out what parts to consider, let alone the building. Again, everyone has different abilities and experience. It's easier for us if we learn to accept that fact/
PCPartPicker.com is quite a useful tool as suggested above. It does the job of keeping ALL the related items compatible AND finding the lowest prices. For me it also lets me select Amazon/Prime only pricing so I can get everything in 1 place, albeit separate orders.
Again, I am most curious how much cost cutting an "industry Leader" (esports arena) would do on their initial foray into what they want to be an expanding endeavor. I am hoping they went mid to high end to start and I can snag a bargain. If they went cheap I might be DIY with some extra hands!
I have been using custom specced HP systems for 12 years or so and had amazing good luck. My current system runs like a champ... just a really old champ... kinda like me now, LOL!
I have mixed feelings here. A PC would allow me to assemble the power that would allow me to easily create art. At the same time, all too often I can't find the stuff that I'd want in order to do my projects. Is the cost of a PC worth tbe limitations I'd experience?
I agree totally. In this and many other threads, the OP asks for help chosing a prebuilt system and all they get is "build your own, don't waste your money". Obviously not everyone is able to, or even wants to build their own system. That really is a good list, I've been looking to get 32Gb of RAM and I didn't think I'd find it that cheap. Hopefully I can save enough to buy another 1080ti before they're discontinued and the prices skyrocket.
The last LAN party I went to was during the Age of Empires II/Empire Earth days. Good times.
I've built a system not unlike the one I specced, Ryzen isn't Bulldozer. At this point the price premium for Intel just cannot be justified.
I have no idea where you are physically but if you can't find some one local to you to handle the stuff you can't do, and front panel connections can be a PITA even for someone without any physical issues, You're probably near a FreeGeek or something similiar and they will build a system for someone with a disability if you bring them the components. You might have to pay them some nominal labor charge but Even then the system I specced is way under $2k.
As I said before I would have zero faith in the build quality of a prebuilt system with such high end components they certainly skimped on the PSU and Mobo.
I rather think building today is 100x easier than in the past. Yes picking parts takes some research, but you have research anyway if you really want a good quality prebuilt, too. You have to do some research either way, because you can get a bad prebuilt. Things are so modular now that it actually takes a bit of effort to mess up. Modern cases and parts typically come with everything labeled, sometimes even color coded, to make sure you plug the right cable into the right place. Many cases today don't even need screws! The parts all just pop in, and some cases don't even need screws for the side panels. There certainly are bad how to's online (like the Verge, which became a meme.) But we wont let you do that.
And that's what is great about building. You don't even really need to know what you are doing, LOL. Just plug the things up as per instruction. Its really no harder than building a Lego castle to look like it does on the box...actually it might be easier<.< So that's why people always recommend it when the topic comes up. As you say, most people probably can, but ignorance is the block, well that's why people drop in to talk about building, to educate. Teach a man to fish...that sort of thing.
But obviously if you have a physical condition, perhaps that changes things. Still, it is almost always easy to find a reasonable person around who would lend a hand, if perhaps for a nominal fee. Universities typically have students dying to do this for class. Some people take their broken PCs to the school for cheap repairs. Even the smallest places around me have some kind of little shop around town. I've seen PC shops in tiny old houses with hand painted signs. Blink and you might miss them.
If you are looking for case reviews, the good people at GamersNexus have reviewed many cases as well. They are very in depth and quite critical, but they are also spot on. Really, there aren't many places that are going to be more fair and more in depth than GN whn it comes to anything PC related. It wouldn't surprise me if they review the OP box at some point, I'm sure somebody is asking them to. And GN is pretty cool, they will answer questions. I bet if you write them and ask them about what they would recommend for somebody who has some physical issues to do, they can answer. Like they can tell you what cases and mobos are easier to install so you can avoid those front panel hook up issues. There are cases that do make this much easier than other cases. I am being serious, give them a try, you may be surprised by their response. And they may actually suggest a prebuilt for you, and they might steer you towards one they respect.
And yes, it is not a Walmart branded PC, but in effect it really is. It is exclusive to Walmart and essentially commisioned by Walmart. Without Walmart backing this probably would not exist. So it in the end it is the Walmart branded PC. Of course they are not going to want to put "Walmart" on the side of the case, though I have to say that would be sooooo amazing, LOL. No, they are going to commision somebody to do it and create a whole new label because public perception is important. If you want to break into a new market, this is a way to do it. It is sort of like how Walmart has a brand of clothing called "George". It is not called Great Value or Walmart brand, it is given a fancy new name to separate it from the other lines.
And you have already seen why they are doing this with the esports page. Walmart wants a piece of the growing esports pie. It is not just about selling these PCs, that is far too short sited. This is all about building a path to gamers as consumers. Walmart wants them to see Walmart as a cooler place to buy these things. And of course Walmart sells everything. If they go to buy this or that, they might buy something else totally unrelated. They might become regular shoppers. Walmart is playing the long game here. Will it work? We shall see. I always like to see competition, so I am all for it.
if you look at the side links of that deal on esprit ..you will see deals for systems, rtc..Walmart sells a lot of systems... ibuypower, cyberpowerpc, etc ..Dell, HP.
You get what you pay for. Falcon is the best. They make servers for Google.
Yep, I know that and that know that you'd almost certainly find that that is the case with the computer. Remember too the manufacturer of the computer is certainly not paying what you or I would pay at eBay, Amazon, Fry's Electronics, NewEggs, and other such resellers.
I appreciate the good advice and assistance. I will disagree this is a Wal-Mart brand of however.
Maybe some of you are not familiar with Esports Arena. They are a large company and the leaders in creating esports arenas. It is truly their brand. Yes they have partnered with Wal-Mart but that was the deal to get mini arenas in every town. Exports as an industry is still wild West with twitch being the default and lowest common denominator way to share streaming. Twitch is an Amazon platform so moving people from single viewing to local viewing and participation is a big deal. There is much more here than meets the eye on a cursory exam. I have been doin microcomputer stuff and following the industry for 38 years so I tend to look at a macro version. I was hoping I was right about the better specs but good chance they will be lame.
Please continue the discussion here and it can branch. I appreciate the case review information. Like in most things a good foundation matters and critical care features like air flow, wire management, drive and can location and capacity among other things are critical to solid performance and good looks. Many of us are proud of our rigs whether custom, diy or off the shelf. It is apparent many folks use their pc as another creative expression of their abilities.
Again being homebound, well that part has not directly been shared before, along with the disability isolates me and in general these forums and my fellow artists here have become familiar names and often shared a commeroderie that makes me feel relevant. So continue the chat and post any new news about us deal of systems. And thanks for the advice so far.
I'm behind the times. I tried researching Esports Arena, and got a web site in a foreign language. I dug some more, and found a site in English. I'm only interested in the Windows and PC World because I can configure a system that will work best with DAZ Studio. I have a vague understanding that a Gamer PC isn't necessarily ideal for DAZ Studio and similar software.
The computer system listed in this thread is out of stock. Did it sell out?
Everyone has their own attitude, feelings, needs, when it comes to getting a computer system that works for us. Every area we live in likely has different resources, concerning companies that make or sell computers. I hope everyone gets the best deal they can, and is happy with the results.I will continue to monitor this thread in hopes that more details will emerge.
Computer specs have nothing to do with finding product. That is up to you, how you install the product and your knowledge of the file paths so you know what is being installed and where.
One thing, there is no way at present around the front panel connectors. That is a sore spot in the PC building community. The ATX standard, what virtually every PC you'll ever see is based off of at least in part, is modular and very much based on large one way only plugs but for some reason that never gets answered to anyone's satisfaction the front panel connectors, on/off switch, reset button, HDD activity light, are still individual plugs that have to be plugged into individual connectors on the MoBo. I do it with tweezers and the brightest shop light I have and still curse every time. So if you're physically limited you can likely do most of the assmbly but that, depending on how limited you are installing the MoBo standoffs and actually screwing down the MoBo could be tough and installing some CPU coolers could be a challenge as well but if you're just dealing with the stock coolers they're pretty easy, and if you're buying Ryzen, and you really should be right now, the stock cooler is entirely adequate even for moderate overclocks.
Back on the subject of prebuilts it doesn't matter whose nameplate is on it, what matters is who assembled it. They're the guys who tried to make as much money as possible from building it. They're the ones who were mandated to build a rig with an i7 8700, 1080ti, 32 Gb RAM etc. They surely did not put in a 750W 80+ Gold PSU and a decent ATX Mobo too. They went with an uncertified PSU with just enough wattage to let the system run as specced and an mATX MoBo with no room to add anything. Because that maximized their profit. Which is fine as long as you never need to change a thing and you toss it in the trash when the PSU croaks in a year or so. I'm just saying you can spend the same amount of money and get a far better quality system that will last longer and since you built it yourself you'll be able to upgrade it as new hardware comes out for years to come.
@Ron and others http://www.esportsarena.com is their newly updated website. Information is scattered about.
I happen to be under some new NDAs in this tech sector (not related to this company but to this sector) as a designer and developer. The activity of watching real teams play these squad games live for huge cash, prizes and fame is growing rapidly, but maybe quietly if you are not involved normally.
The idea that you can simply grab 3 friends and head to a local venue, become the champion team there and move on to a regional/state level and get paid sponsors is a dream for many young gamers.
Many local indoor sports arenas or meeting venues are looking at offering tournaments where a few hundred toa few thousand folks can watch the action live and shared on big screens. All the gaming and hardware vendors are looking at these events as a place and a chance to "buy brand loyalty" and also share "alpha work" and get real feedback and even solicit ideas for changes.
Some fun and interesting stuff is coming our way!
Esports has been the next big thing for at least 15 years. Do not count on it making it over the hump now. People will sit at home and watch some cute girl stream CS:GO and some will watch a really really good player who is also a very good conversationalist and knowledgeable about World of Tanks play WoT but the number of each who make an actual living at it I can count on one hand and have fingers left over. The esports teams that make a living, as in that's all they do, outside South Korea is again a number that can be counted on one hand and you'll have 5 fingers left over.
The problem is the titles that are slow enough to be watcheable as a spectator sport no one wants to play themselves. The games that people like to play, Overwatch, CS:GO, WoT, Rocket League etc. are too fast to watch when played by top players and people do only want to watch games they play themselves. The commentators are often left having to watch the match in slow mo after its over trying to figure out what happened to even begin to make any sort of reasonable commentary on the match. There's no way a producer faced with 10 or more camera feeds can hope to choose which one(s) to present to the viewers any sort of live view of the match that shows any of the actual important action. No one wants to watch the carefully edited action of the match hours after its over and the results have been tweeted out by the winners and the losers have whined about what ever the controversy du jour is.
Esports is not the next big thing. It is already a big thing. ESPN has programming for esports. Have you seen the advertising for Samsung's latest phone? The ads are entirely centered around eports and this one has 2 esport celebs in it.
This one single video of the ad has been seen over 11,000,000 times. People have CHOSEN TO WATCH AN AD that many times on youtube. And it has been played on TV non stop since October.
Somebody has to be watching in order for the tournaments to have cash to pay out.
The Overpowered PC is exclusive to Walmart. It doesn't matter who is building it, that makes it a Walmart brand. The public perception will be it is your brand, that is what exclusives are for.
I did not notice that GamersNexus forums are currently offline while they migrate the system. So you cannot ask them in their forum, but they do have discord, twitter, and youtube videos. If there is anybody who can give you sound advice on this subject, it is them. Right now as I type this they are running a live youtube stream while they test a number of defective 2080ti's that users have mailed to them.
I don't care about the game playing aspect of the conversation. I'm interested in the computer, only out of curiousity. I wonder why it's advertised, and is out of stock.
it not released in Wlmart stores yet.
davso, thanks for the clarification.
It's likely out of stock because 1080ti's are no longer available. They probably built a few hundred or so and sold through them and will soon start selling the 20xx version.
GN will tell you exactly what I told you, except for the boutique prebuilt guys, all prebuilt systems cut corners on things like PSU's and MoBo, and often RAM and drives, to cut costs and that affects performance and lifespan of the system. They never review mass market prebuilts for a reason. No tech literate person will touch them. Beforeanyone claims Overpowered is a boutique, the boutique guys are quite proud of every component of their systems and let you configure everything, and charge you for the privilege, for instance
https://www.originpc.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIhcmMsOPJ3gIVoaOzCh19bgKtEAAYASAAEgLpY_D_BwE
As to esports, Tyler Blevins isn't an esport celeb, he's a twitch streamer, and Travis Scott is a rapper. Blevins is a big deal in Fortnite not becuase he's particularly good at Fortnite but because he did a stream with Scott, Drake and Juju Smith-Schuster (apparently engineered by Fortnite's maker). That they appeared in the Samsung ad is also no mystery, Fortnite is making a big push into mobile games and likely paid for the product placement. It has nada to do with whether esports has made it. Fortnite has all the problems with esports I pointed out above.
Scan has lots of 1080Tis in stock, so I'm not sure what you mean by no longer available.
on the regular Walmart site, the Overpowered line is said to be released on 11/09/2018, which was yesterday ... they are still showing out of stock.
Product TitleOVERPOWERED Gaming Desktop DTW1, Intel i7-8700, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070, 256GB SSD, 2TB HDD, 16GB RAM, Windows 10
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More information is trickling out... here is a link to the MoBo (motherboard) manual for the DTW1 smallest of the 3 PCs: http://download.gigabyte.us/FileList/Manual/mb_manual_h310m-s2_e.pdf so Gigabyte brand.
Here are the latest Specs for the DTW3(might be same as above):
The OVERPOWERED Gaming Desktop DTW3 towers over the rest. Fueled by the processing speed of an Intel i7 processor like its siblings, it brings even more firepower with the Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080TI graphics, the most potent GPU we offer. An explosive 32GB of memory and a 2TB HDD / 512GB SSD combination rounds out the specs for this dynamic gaming machine. Theres no better way to ignite your game.
So my understanding from you all here is that for an INTEL system the price is rather good. I can't build one cheaper with "average/decent" power supply, case and cooling. So still waiting to se if they used CRAP parts or quantity breaks to keep the price down.
Wish I had an extra $1k or so to really customize the look of a system into my own branded showpiece!
I joined the list to be notified when it will be in stock.
mATX MoBo as I predicted. No empty RAM slots. one empty PCIE slot which is likely covered by the GPU. Power delivery on that h310 is, I'll be kind here, adequate for the system as specced. If you buy it, open it monthly and dust it out or you'll be very very sorry.
I'd still recommend not buying the system and not buying Intel at all right now. the price to performance is simply not in their favor right now. The system I specced above is $300 cheaper and you get an 8 core/16 thread unlocked CPU instead of a 6 core/12 thread locked one. If you really must buy Intel and all you want is a render box you should be able to make do with an 8600k or an 8400. You don't need the i7 at all that should save you about $130 as of right now on Newegg. Even if you have to go prebuilt don't buy from Wal-Mart. Microcenter makes prebuilts, Powerspec brand, that have a very good reputations, as these things go, and they sell a lot of PC's and you can see the reviews right on their site.
Whether a retail site has "lots" of 1080ti's in stock is irrelevant. The distribution chain is empty. By Christmas there will be none on shelves. The higher volume prebuilt manufacturers are sold out or nearly so. I assume that these guys simply did not have the quantity in stock to build very many of these and are now switching to the 20xx line.
@kenshaw that Intel i5-8400 looks good as a drop down alternative. I need a new system(withing next 90 days) to act as a bridge PC for about 2 years before I can access some money to build my dream rig.
Been looking at HP, IBuyPower and PCPartsPicker for options mainly.
That Gigabyte motherboard is dirt cheap.
https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-H310M-S2H-LGA1151-Motherboard/dp/B07CCGMHMC
Only one single slot for a GPU, so forget about ever doing multiGPU builds that Iray would benefit greatly from. Also the Motherboard's RAM is already maxxed out with 32GB, so no upgrades there. Basically the upgrade options on the PC are very low. The only upgrade path you have is to replace the GPU. With a 1080ti, the only upgrade option would be a 2080ti. It may be a serviceable mobo, but the future options of what you can do with it are extremely limited. You are pretty much stuck with this PC as it is for the time that you own it.
With this info, I think we can easily guess that the other parts not listed are in this price range. The PSU might be 600 Watt at best. The 1080ti itself is probably one of the low end models, a reference model. Since the mobo is Gigabyte, the GPU may be as well. Gigabyte does still sell a Founder's Edition of the 1080ti.
If this is a go between model, it seems like an expensive proposition. If you are only going to use it roughly 2 years, why go with this? You mention using this for Iray. If Iray is all you are using it for, there are many other ways to go about this. Now you mentioned you have some physical limiations, but what about installing a GPU? If you can manage just that, then I would go a different route entirely. You can buy cheap lower end PC and then buy a 1080ti to plug into it. For 2 years this will do. As I have covered in the benchmark thread, Iray does notreally care about most of your system spec if you use GPU to render. You can absolutely get away with some shockingly low end PCs with high end GPUs for Iray. For gaming that would be unthinkable, but Iray is nothing like a video game. If you have any PC sitting around right now you can plug a 1080ti into it and probably be fine. Then you would be able to really save your money for that dream build you want to do. Just think, any money you save now can apply to that build in the future.
And while most reviewers do not review such machines, this machine is different because of the Walmart connection. Just look at the media coverage it has, people are highly curious about this, if simply for the shear novelty that Walmart has a "high end" PC. So anybody who does make a video review of this thing will get a lot of clicks. If anybody can get one, considering it out of stock.
And esport is here. TV is not the true indication. Gamers are watching this on streams. Twitch is a huge platform, and it is dedicated almost entirely to gaming. Twitch would not exist without gaming. While it shows a lot of "let's plays" and what not, it does show esport events. A lot of esport events. And even if the footage is sporatic, many sports deal with this. Hockey is very hard to follow on TV with that tiny puck flying around. Most racing sports can only show a couple of racers at a time. Many Olympic sports are super hard to follow. Many viewers are watching for their favorite players as much as the event itself. And obviously people are watching, or Twitch and esports would be already dead.
Thanks again for the info. This computer doesn't appeal to me any longer. Besides that, I don't have the money. I'll see what my finances are like in a year or so, then I'll see what computer options are available.
I can spec out a rig for you on PCPartsPicker if you give me some guidelines and a price point. If you find someone to do the assembly that you can't handle I can probably come close to matching pretty much anything you can find in a pre built.
I really need a rig that I can do some basic DAZ / Iray on to make some tutorial videos and stream some work. I know some of my scenes are gonna drop to CPU so 32G seemed needed and it will serve the 11G 1080ti. I really would be happy with a WD 6T drive and no SSD. A lot of USB ports for linking cams, mics and more. I do have a guy I can pay for a build or to help me at least. He is a real PC guy like me not some wanna be. I make videos intros and outros and logo stingers and a lot of logos and some publishing too. My current HP is 4 years old but not really many upgrade options. I prefer intel but... I had a horrible issue with AMD that sticks with me, LOL. Was hoping to be sub $2k. I like ASUS products, hate overclocking... don't really game cuz I got no time. I help small business and board game developers and tabletop rpg creators mostly and had several requests for training and streaming. Don't have 4k and really don't watch TV anyway. Currently running on Two HP envy 24s with Beats works well for me.