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Ha ha, me too!
IIRC DAZ used to celebrate Cinco de Mayo at least in some small way with a freebie or special. It looks like they didn't bother this year.
Happy Cinco de Mayo anyway !
This was the freebie five years ago today.
Wasn't that the last time they did Cinco de Mayo? Long time ago, anyway, far as I recall.
And what about a freebie for May the Fourth Be With You Day? A Stars Wars-ish freebie would have been nice
Or maybe a comic-ish freebie for Free Comic Book Day??
In the meantime, everytime I think I have EVERYTHING I could want or need, new stuff pops up that I want (although may not necessarily need...) As long as PAs keep churning out new great stuff, I will continue to wipe out all my savings. Besides drug use and gambling, this has to be one of the most expensive addictions ever. Thank god you can actually do things with it though that can potentially bring in money, but I know I've spent WAY more than I've earned over the years. Time to turn that around! ( I had real life issues for several years that took my focus away from work that are hopefully ending soon!)
Hey, look, it's trailer park stuff and suitably relevant clothing in today's sale!
That's actually kinda cool. Kind of nice to see this 'slice' of Americana getting the Genesis 8 treatment. Makes me want to pick up that El Camino from the other store, and do a 'My Name Is Earl' fanart piece or something...
Also, nice job on the associated products, content designers!
Of course, there's the 'need 3 items to get the full discount' issue, and that 7 item bundle only counts as one item issue, but that's becoming typical for these sort of sales. Now I get to agonize again...
Edit: The two addon texture sets for the outfits in the Living The Dream bundle are reasonably priced/similar to other texture sets, so that's helpful. $53.36 with the two texture sets, $56.82 without. Sure, that's pro bundle territory, but 9 items for $53.36 isn't a horribly bad deal. Plus that mobile home appears to be fairly well done. Normally you don't get a home in a pro bundle...
Oh look, there's an El Camino in the Daz store too. It's newer and doesn't have a blower though, it has some sort of 8 pack carburator option though...
Not sure which one is better. The Daz one normally comes with more of those emission control devices though, at least in real life....
What I really want is a '77 to '79 Ranchero Daz/Poser model, or an .obj for reasonably cheap, but no one has made one of those for Daz/Poser, at least not that I've seen.
"Top Fade Hair and Beard for Genesis 8 Males" from Samsil's store in yesterday's sale seems to not be getting the full discount today. It's been sitting in my cart since yesterday, when it was 65% off - $8.73. That's the DO 30% discount plus the 50% (no additional purchase necessary) sale discount. This morning it's just 61% off - $9.61.
Looks correct to me at the moment.
There was a problem with yesterday's featured artists only receiving a 46% discount instead of 50%; but that has been fixed now: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/250941/incorrect-discount-on-promo#latest
Just a technical point...
White trailer park deplorables don't say, "We be..."
*Especially* retro-mullet-era Pre-Eminem white trailer park deplorables.
"So, I sez to her, I sez, we's living the dream, Luann, but you best goan check yer man. Cuz Luann, Billys spendin' all his time over at the Ball & Cue, and we'all know whuts it is hes doin' there. Drinkin and smokin' and doin' what-all-else and blowin' his paycheck with Susie-Lee when y'all ain't even got baby formula for lil Billy Jr in the house...And that ain't right, Luann. That ain't right. That is what I sez to her. That is what I sez. But I don't think Luann... that girl ain't very bright. I thinks she's jus goan keep ignorin' Billy and the way he does her wrong."
The way it reads now - you'll offend two different cultural groups.
I'm available for culturally correct ad-copy consulting in the future, Daz, for a very reasonable price, to help you avoid making these kind of cultural faux pas in the future.
But I do appreciate that it is long overdue that there is a Trailer Park home available in DAZ. Hats off to the PA. Now he needs to do a double wide for that "richie old lady" who lives in the trailer park and thinks she is better than all the folks who live in single wides like the rest of us peasants...
There should be some textures available to make this model more and less sketchy, too. The old ornery widower Earl's single wide that looks like it hasn't been maintained sine Earl's wife died of a stroke in 1980.
That wuz terrible, she was a sweet woman and he never come back from that completely... its like he just done and give up on life when that happened. Nothing good is goan come of that, is what I sez.
:)
Guess I should go buy the trailer now before the price goes up.
We needz a really, really big super duper megasale -- everything including gift cards and memberships at least 75% or more off.
Oh, and no required buy-in.
But instead they only offended one. ;) I guess Daz didn't stop to think that some of us actually live in one.
Laurie
Yeah — today’s bundle is kind of awful. A lot of items taken alone could be just fine. All bundled up, with that kind of banner text (and product names) — it’s laughing at poorer people who already have a lot to bear.
Some of the best people I ever knew lived in a trailer park
Me and my first wife lived in one and owned a trailer for several years
I don't want to get too deep on this... and I don't want to fuel the "culture of outrage," that makes us all walk on egg-shells with one another these days.
But yeah... I don't come from the trailer-park... but close enough that I had lots of friends and family that did growing up. I was one rich grandmother taking care of my family away from it. I know the culture... and in crass terms, in the projects "they be," in the trailer-parks, "we is," and in the nice suburbs, "they are".
Personally, I'm glad to see DAZ finally representing this segment of culture and society. It is something that has been missing for a while - and I don't mind people pointing out the humorous stereotypes and caricatures associated with that culture. We can use this content to reprsent creations that we didn't have content to represent before. I bought it.
And that humor might be mildly offensive like a movie like Joe Dirt... or it might be a more dramatic portrayal. Without the content, there will be no portrayal of it at all. So - let's not make DAZ *regret* releasing it. It is something I've been planning on doing in Hexagon for a while. The PA saved me the trouble. I'd like to see more 80s era poor-white culture in clothes and hairstyles too... DAZ needs a little more classic-rocker/metalhead in their content lineup. I think there is probably a niche for a smart PA creating content across the board that represents the 80s - from Punky Brewster, Preppies and Mods to metalheads, Motley Crue and hardcore punks that aren't a fashion-show interpretation of that culture.
But anyhow, it is a minefield DAZ is walking on with that headline, because it is really inaccurate in a way that illustrates a lack of understanding of the nuance between cultures in that socioeconomic class in the US today.
And people are currently *super* sensitive about that.
I was never one for political correctness. I think this bundle is a hoot, and went straight into the cart as well as the Inspector Clouseau suit.
I grew up in a mobile home and have never said "we is" in all my life....lol. In fact, I'm probably the anti-stereotype of the trailer park. Grew up watching Masterpiece Theatre, love classical music, etc. and among other things ;). I've never even met anyone that has hair like either of the new releases today nor have I ever met anyone that had a "beer hat".
TBH, I'm well aware of the stereotypes of trailer park residents. I'm not super offended, nor do I tend to get offended about much. But it's things like this that perpetuate stereotypes that is my biggest issue. I keep thinking "what next"? Ghetto Vicky and Mike? Asians with overybytes, glasses and bad hair? I suppose the Darius and Monique 6 releases didn't give Daz a small clue ;).
Sure, there are some things I like about todays releases (at least the mobile home didn't have a car on blocks in the front yard), but not much.
Laurie
I knew a couple college professors and several students that had beer hats and they weren't all male.
People get stereotyped easily When my dads step granddad in Illinois died back in the 60's we went to the funeral and all my cousins there were disappointed that we being from Texas weren't wearing cowboy hats and boots and didn't have twin six shooters and actually asked if we had them packed in the suitcase. They were really disappointed to find out that we were nothing like the Texans of the hollywood movies
Honestly, if Daz had couched the whole ad for this release in a differnet way, I probably would have never even given it a thought. But the whole "hillbilly, bad hair, lazy and dumb" thing is getting kind of old. ;) Release the hair and clothing without all the inuendo and I would have never even noticed.
Yeah, the 'lazy' poses along side everything else was an 'are you kidding me?' moment? As I said, all of these pieces independently are fine. Wrapped up together, with the language and terminology used, and it's thoughtlessly cruel.
So, some years ago Eminem got in trouble early in his career for using the term, "We be"... like, "We be doin' this thing, y'all hearin' me," at some award ceremony.
It is a particular dialect of American English spoken by a particular ethnic group - and even today, white folks who are into hip-hop who use it are perceived by *that* group as being wannabes and trying to "steal" another part of a culture that isn't theirs. "We be..." has also become a little archaic even among that group... or, as it would be called, "old-school."
That is as politically correct as I can put why *I* brought it up.
You may not be at all like the culture they're TRYING to indicate here in their ad-copy - but, just because you experienced part of that culture, doesn't mean that you reflect the standard stereotypes OF that culture, Laurie. If it isn't you... then you shouldn't be offended at all. I don't know that it makes you better or worse or equal that you always used proper grammar and watched more intellectual programming. It just makes you an outlier in the social class you grew up in. You're not average for where you grew up. That isn't a *bad* thing...
My point is that they should be aware that they got their ad-copy wrong in a way that is likely to be offensive to both of the groups we're talking about here, but not mentioning specifically, because we're a hyper-sensitive PC society at the moment.
I'm actually pretty affluent now - but when hanging around people of my own current socio-economic class - some of my behaviors, attitudes and the things I say tip-them off that I don't "belong." That I didn't start here. It doesn't bother me. I'm the guy I am because of the experiences I've had. If that makes other people uncomfortable around me, that is their problem, not mine. I find I get along with other people who are of similar means to me but had childhood experiences more like mine. The Rough-Around-The-Edges affluent are my crowd. Most of us don't say "we is," either... but most of us know close family members that do.
All I want is for Daz to give their ads more thought, because it's them that ends up sounding silly more than anything. That, and you really don't want to alienate what may be part of your customer base ;).
Laurie
Agreed. That is why I brought it up at all... and the fact that you feel strongly enough to have this conversation, indicates that at best, it was a little tone-deaf.
If anyone is curious, I bought the DAZ Mobile Home and have just started experimenting. Firstly, the texures are a huge mouthful for my poor VRAM, showing in GPU-Z at almost my 8GB limit. So I ran it through Scene Optimizer and reduced that by almost half (as you can see in the screen shot). The scene now loads fast and this IRay render took 5 minutes on my 1070.
Oh, and I changed a couple of the exterior ground coverings - the supplied versions were not really to my liking.
I totally disagree, but then again, everyone these days gets offended by something. I am a born and raised Texan and have relatives that fit this sterotype to a tee, and I find this funny as hell. Sterotypes exist because they are based on reality, embrace it or change it.
What? Wait? This set is not really displaying in detail a large group of american society? Wow... now I'm utterly astonished.
May I feel a bit discriminated too, because about all the stuff on DAZ that has something to do with Germany is either german cars or Oktoberfest (outfits)?
Luckily I feel quite old already with my 58 years, so there's a good chance I will not live long enough to see, where all this exaggerated politcal correctness will lead to.
And about the set itself: I see it as a caricature of a certain part of american culture. In the end, it's what people do with it, that makes all the difference. And the advertisement... well, many companies have proved not being able to come up with some really funny stuff, but instead putting out stuff that annoys some people. If You think of it as a serious matter, stop buying these companies' products.
Looks a bit like a travel trailer we had as a kid that we used to go to Florida in every winter ;).
Laurie
The 80% discount with new release on featured items in the Cyclopian sale is not working