Game Print? Need more information.

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  • John SimsJohn Sims Posts: 360

    Hi Mike. Simple question - "Does the plugin generate a sealed solid body model that I could export?" 

  • GamePrintGamePrint Posts: 539
    John Sims said:

    The whole damned thing is REALLY vague. I own my own 3d printer and I wonder if this will allow me to print on my printer .....

    My thoughts entirely!  While not a kings ransom for the plug in, I could buy it and see, but I am sick of buying plugins that are a fight to load, a fight to get working, a fight to reinstall every time DAZ updates its self and then, when finally working, don't really do what they say or infer it does. Remember "measure metrics" which suggested you could change a figure to achieve specific dimensions? Instead you had to change the figure old style and just keep remeasuring it until you got to where you wanted to be.

     

    All "plug in" issues aside, what exactly are we buying here?  Is this just $12 as a down payment on your first figure or does the "plug in" actually do something aside take you to the shop site?  

    Hi John,

    Our plugin actually repairs and optimize the file for 3D printing so if there are any issues that prevents 3D printing like thin areas, openinings, holes or intersections then our plugin actually repair those issues automatically, takes the file into our checkout process without you needing to export and upload it through the browser and get it up and ready for production, you don't need to work on measurements as we automatically scales the model to 7 inch but we are going to launch a 12 inch print option soon.
     

    The 10% off will actually be $25 which is almost double what you are paying for the plugin plus we are offering free shipping for a limited time.

  • KA1KA1 Posts: 1,012
    edited October 2017
    Hi Mike, you've quoted $250 followed by saying thats a 12inch figure whereas the Game Print post is quoting $250 for 7inch with 12inch $450+?? Can we get clarification on this contradiction, there is no transparency on actual pricing yet with these mixed messages :/ Edit: Never mind this has now been edited to confirm it is 7inch. Thanks Mike :)
    Post edited by KA1 on
  • GamePrintGamePrint Posts: 539
    John Sims said:

    Hi Mike. Simple question - "Does the plugin generate a sealed solid body model that I could export?" 

    HI John,

    At the moment no, you can't get it exported but we *might* launch that functionality later on becuase STLs are a bit tricky and currently are porcess is optimized for our own production process.

  • GamePrintGamePrint Posts: 539
    KA1 said:
    Hi Mike, you've quoted $250 followed by saying thats a 12inch figure whereas the Game Print post is quoting $250 for 7inch with 12inch $450+?? Can we get clarification on this contradiction, there is no transparency on actaul pricing yet with these mixed messages :/

    Currently we are offering the standard 7 inch which is $250 with a 10% discount and free shipping, soon we will launch the other options. 

  • GamePrintGamePrint Posts: 539
    Uthgard said:

    Also of interest would be shipping costs. Not all of us hail from Eagleland, and I remember the one time I bought something from the states that the shipping was more expensive than the items.

    Shipping is free for limited time wink

  • KA1KA1 Posts: 1,012
    GamePrint said:
    KA1 said:
    Hi Mike, you've quoted $250 followed by saying thats a 12inch figure whereas the Game Print post is quoting $250 for 7inch with 12inch $450+?? Can we get clarification on this contradiction, there is no transparency on actaul pricing yet with these mixed messages :/

    Currently we are offering the standard 7 inch which is $250 with a 10% discount and free shipping, soon we will launch the other options. 

    Brilliant, thank you.
  • John SimsJohn Sims Posts: 360
    GamePrint said:
    John Sims said:

    Hi Mike. Simple question - "Does the plugin generate a sealed solid body model that I could export?" 

    HI John,

    At the moment no, you can't get it exported but we *might* launch that functionality later on becuase STLs are a bit tricky and currently are porcess is optimized for our own production process.

     

    Thank you for comming back so quickly. I am actually looking for a workflow to take my figures into Autodesk Inventor as solid body files. STL seems to be the most common format but I would only be using it as a conduit.

    Given that your Plug In obviously has the intelligence to perhaps get close to what I want would you consider some form of licence agreement, obviously at a diferent price and excluding 3D printing, that would allow export?

  • GamePrintGamePrint Posts: 539

    The whole damned thing is REALLY vague. I own my own 3d printer and I wonder if this will allow me to print on my printer because screw paying for a plugin to not even be able to print things myself. Having to pay shipping on top would be salt in the wound too

     

    Artini said:

    Very nice, but far beyond my hobby budget - https://mixeddimensions.com/

    Troll - 12 inches - $680

    https://fabrelic.com/product/KqY7g8mpy88n7vqYq

    Knight On Horse - 12 inches - $600

    https://fabrelic.com/product/uyMf7RnojmoDBfKLy

    Fantasy Female - 12 inches - $470

    https://fabrelic.com/product/uRQdZh9L2coQGdaBB

     

     

    That’s not even relevant to Daz Studio, we know nothing about pricing yet lol 

    Yes, these are not relevant to our Daz pricing, our standard 7 inch quality is $250 + 10% discount + free shipping for limited time

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 10,307
    GamePrint said:
    John Sims said:

    Hi Mike. Simple question - "Does the plugin generate a sealed solid body model that I could export?" 

    HI John,

    At the moment no, you can't get it exported but we *might* launch that functionality later on becuase STLs are a bit tricky and currently are porcess is optimized for our own production process.

    That option will be much more interesting for me. I do not own the 3D printer yet, but one can get access to 3D printer in the library.

     

  • GamePrintGamePrint Posts: 539
    Artini said:
    GamePrint said:
    John Sims said:

    Hi Mike. Simple question - "Does the plugin generate a sealed solid body model that I could export?" 

    HI John,

    At the moment no, you can't get it exported but we *might* launch that functionality later on becuase STLs are a bit tricky and currently are porcess is optimized for our own production process.

    That option will be much more interesting for me. I do not own the 3D printer yet, but one can get access to 3D printer in the library.

     

    The current issue with desktop 3D printers is the quality of prints, it is really hard to produce a high quality print with desktop printers and you don't get it colored as well, we print on high end machines, post process and paint the models as well as our technology makes it printable to begin with..

  • l_stowel_stowe Posts: 169

    The whole damned thing is REALLY vague. I own my own 3d printer and I wonder if this will allow me to print on my printer because screw paying for a plugin to not even be able to print things myself. Having to pay shipping on top would be salt in the wound too

    Not having my own 3D printer, I've never looked into this, but surely you could export it into a format that 3D printers would accept already?

  • HoMartHoMart Posts: 487
    GamePrint said:
    Artini said:
    GamePrint said:
    John Sims said:

    Hi Mike. Simple question - "Does the plugin generate a sealed solid body model that I could export?" 

    HI John,

    At the moment no, you can't get it exported but we *might* launch that functionality later on becuase STLs are a bit tricky and currently are porcess is optimized for our own production process.

    That option will be much more interesting for me. I do not own the 3D printer yet, but one can get access to 3D printer in the library.

     

    The current issue with desktop 3D printers is the quality of prints, it is really hard to produce a high quality print with desktop printers and you don't get it colored as well, we print on high end machines, post process and paint the models as well as our technology makes it printable to begin with..

    I think the "goal" differs here - some of us just want do play a little with the own figures and 3d-printers for "home use" (due to licence limitations) - not creating HighQality prints like you do.

    some like the callenge of "fighting" with the hardware ;)

    A tool to export a figure "waterproof" would be a handy tool for us.

    Else - could you please give some more information

    what material is used

    what colors do you use - do they look like the "material" we choose to use in our DAZ scene?

     

  • GamePrintGamePrint Posts: 539

    This a sample of what you might expect, we actually printed the characters and then it got hand painted (these are NOT renders), all images on our product page are actual prints and final products wink 

     

     

    before hand painting.jpg
    3024 x 4032 - 4M
    after hand painting.jpg
    1300 x 793 - 58K
  • GamePrintGamePrint Posts: 539
    l_stowe said:

    The whole damned thing is REALLY vague. I own my own 3d printer and I wonder if this will allow me to print on my printer because screw paying for a plugin to not even be able to print things myself. Having to pay shipping on top would be salt in the wound too

    Not having my own 3D printer, I've never looked into this, but surely you could export it into a format that 3D printers would accept already?

    It is a bit tricky as each printer uses a different printing technique (FMD, SLA, SLS) and the quality varies so does the minimum specifications of a model to actually print correctly given the variaty of materials available so we actually optimized our technology to work for our production pipeline and to produce printable files, most files will fail printing when only exported without getting repaired.

  • jakibluejakiblue Posts: 7,281

    Thanks for clarifying the prices laugh

    The images you have of the finished product definitely look fantastic, but this is something way out of my price league LOL. Works out at $320 Australian and that's without the shipping over here unfortunately. But there will obviously be people who are keen on this and will happily purchase.  

    Hello everyone

    This is Mike from GamePrint team. Happy to see the conversation starting about GAME PRINT and I will be here to answer any of your questions. 

    We have a special price for the launch and we offer each standard 7-inch collectible model at $250 USD which includes shipping, and a 10% off to refund the cost of the plugin. 

    Let me know if you need anything else.

    Mike

     

     

    jakiblue said:

    So..you gotta pay to be able to set up the 3d print, then pay to get it printed and then pay to get it shipped. And there's absolutely no indication anywhere of quality, print prices or even shipping prices, or even of how long it will take. 

    I was under the impression that we actually couldn't 3dprint any of the daz figures due to licencing. Whether it was printing out 50 for resale or even 1 for personal use. 

     

     

  • GamePrintGamePrint Posts: 539
    HoMart said:
    GamePrint said:
    Artini said:
    GamePrint said:
    John Sims said:

    Hi Mike. Simple question - "Does the plugin generate a sealed solid body model that I could export?" 

    HI John,

    At the moment no, you can't get it exported but we *might* launch that functionality later on becuase STLs are a bit tricky and currently are porcess is optimized for our own production process.

    That option will be much more interesting for me. I do not own the 3D printer yet, but one can get access to 3D printer in the library.

     

    The current issue with desktop 3D printers is the quality of prints, it is really hard to produce a high quality print with desktop printers and you don't get it colored as well, we print on high end machines, post process and paint the models as well as our technology makes it printable to begin with..

    I think the "goal" differs here - some of us just want do play a little with the own figures and 3d-printers for "home use" (due to licence limitations) - not creating HighQality prints like you do.

    some like the callenge of "fighting" with the hardware ;)

    A tool to export a figure "waterproof" would be a handy tool for us.

    Else - could you please give some more information

    what material is used

    what colors do you use - do they look like the "material" we choose to use in our DAZ scene?

     

     

    We will launch an official thread that will give more details about all these aspects =) stay tuned for it 

  • GamePrintGamePrint Posts: 539
    jakiblue said:

    Thanks for clarifying the prices laugh

    The images you have of the finished product definitely look fantastic, but this is something way out of my price league LOL. Works out at $320 Australian and that's without the shipping over here unfortunately. But there will obviously be people who are keen on this and will happily purchase.  

    Hello everyone

    This is Mike from GamePrint team. Happy to see the conversation starting about GAME PRINT and I will be here to answer any of your questions. 

    We have a special price for the launch and we offer each standard 7-inch collectible model at $250 USD which includes shipping, and a 10% off to refund the cost of the plugin. 

    Let me know if you need anything else.

    Mike

     

     

    jakiblue said:

    So..you gotta pay to be able to set up the 3d print, then pay to get it printed and then pay to get it shipped. And there's absolutely no indication anywhere of quality, print prices or even shipping prices, or even of how long it will take. 

    I was under the impression that we actually couldn't 3dprint any of the daz figures due to licencing. Whether it was printing out 50 for resale or even 1 for personal use. 

     

     

     

    Hopefully in the future with the advancement of 3D printing we get to a point where we can offer it for a lower price

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604

    Info on imternational shipping would be really handy.    I do sometimes buy stuff from the US, and I have found that there is a vast difference in P&P costs offered.

  • GamePrintGamePrint Posts: 539
    Chohole said:

    Info on imternational shipping would be really handy.    I do sometimes buy stuff from the US, and I have found that there is a vast difference in P&P costs offered.

    We are working on compiling a list of shipping costs but for now we are offering Free shipping for a limited time.

  • You guys (GamePrint) should consider an un-painted option. I would want to paint my own figures.

  • GamePrintGamePrint Posts: 539

    You guys (GamePrint) should consider an un-painted option. I would want to paint my own figures.

     

    We are going to launch a single color (primed) option soon :D that is on our timeline.

  • Panzer EmeraldPanzer Emerald Posts: 727
    edited October 2017

    Interesting. Does this mean that, if we want custom color schemes, we have to assemble those in Daz Studio first? 

    Regardless, now I'm sorely tempted to get a 3D printed statue of my characters at some point. Thank goodness I'm starting a new full-time job soon, lmao.

    Post edited by Panzer Emerald on
  • GamePrintGamePrint Posts: 539
    Finlaena said:

    Interesting. Does this mean that, if we want custom color schemes, we have to assemble those in Daz Studio first? 

    Regardless, now I'm sorely tempted to get a 3D printed statue of my characters at some point. Thank goodness I'm starting a new full-time job soon, lmao.

     

    Yes because it is much easier for us to follow the guidelines in the model but you can provide additional information to our team during the production stage, we have a chat component once you place your order and you can provide more information that is not included in the 3D model.

  • IldanachIldanach Posts: 217
    edited October 2017
    GamePrint said:
    Chohole said:

    Info on imternational shipping would be really handy.    I do sometimes buy stuff from the US, and I have found that there is a vast difference in P&P costs offered.

    We are working on compiling a list of shipping costs but for now we are offering Free shipping for a limited time.

    Is this free shipping worldwide?

    Will you have volume discounts?

    What material(s) is the final product made from?

    Do you offer a real metallic (conductive) paint coating so that the model can be plated in precious metals (ie silver and gold)? The bonding process for these requires a real metallic paint coating.

    Is the 7 inch model the only version available now? The pricelist you posted an image of shows a 4 inch model for $40 - is this available now?

    Is the printing and/or painting process done in the US or in another country using cheaper labour? If so, does the manufacturer have a good track record with regard to the treatment and payment of their employees?

    Thanks

    Post edited by Ildanach on
  • GamePrintGamePrint Posts: 539
    Ildanach said:
    GamePrint said:
    Chohole said:

    Info on imternational shipping would be really handy.    I do sometimes buy stuff from the US, and I have found that there is a vast difference in P&P costs offered.

    We are working on compiling a list of shipping costs but for now we are offering Free shipping for a limited time.

    Is this free shipping worldwide?

    Will you have volume discounts?

    What material(s) is the final product made from?

    Do you offer a real metallic paint coating so that the model can be plated in precious metals (ie silver and gold)? The bonding process for these requires a real metallic paint coating.

    Is the 7 inch model the only version available now? The pricelist you posted an image of shows a 4 inch model for $40 - is this available now?

    Is the printing and/or painting process done in the US or in another country using cheaper labour? If so, does the manufacturer have a good track record with regard to the treatment and payment of their employees?

    Thanks

     

    Is this free shipping worldwide?

    Yes, the free shipping promotion is worldwide.

    Will you have volume discounts?

    We will offer volume discount in the near future.

    What material(s) is the final product made from?

     The final product is made from high detailed resin that is post processed for maximum details and finishing.

    Do you offer a real metallic paint coating so that the model can be plated in precious metals (ie silver and gold)? The bonding process for these requires a real metallic paint coating.

    This is planned and going to be launched in the near future.

    Is the 7 inch model the only version available now? The pricelist you posted an image of shows a 4 inch model for $40 - is this available now?

    Yes, the 7 inch is the only version available for now, we are going to launch other options and even we might launch custom sizes.

    Is the printing and/or painting process done in the US or in another country using cheaper labour? If so, does the manufacturer have a good track record with regard to the treatment and payment of their employees?

    It is done in Europe and we are the manufacturers so the whole process is done by us, we have an international track record since 2013 with multiple global offices including offices in US and Europe, our team is highly secured and appreciated. you can reach to any of them on social media and ask ;)  

  • John SimsJohn Sims Posts: 360
    edited October 2017

    "A tool to export a figure "waterproof" would be a handy tool for us"

    Absolutely. DAZ, some years back, purported to allow 3D printing but the reality was a long way short of the mark.

    I can appreciate Game Prints stance in trying to protect their intellectual property as well as not shoot the goose that lays the golden eggs. However, with respect, suggesting consumer printers aren't up to the quality, should be in their favour not something they should be guarding against. I would think 99.9% of people who will try to get a 3D print from a consumer extrusion type machine will become so frustrated by the failures that they would gladly pay for someone else to do it. If anything this adds value to Game Prints product rather than presents a threat to their market.

    Saying, we won't let you try to print your own because it wont be up to the quality is a little presumptuous. If someone wants to spend their hours fighting to get something sub standard shurely that is for them to decide? 

    Post edited by John Sims on
  • TaslaqTaslaq Posts: 78

    Hi

    I posted here with a link to their site.

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/206161/i-am-gonna-go-broke

     

  • MikeMakdahMikeMakdah Posts: 8
    edited October 2017
    Uthgard said:
    Also of interest would be shipping costs. Not all of us hail from Eagleland, and I remember the one time I bought something from the states that the shipping was more expensive than the items.

     

    jakiblue said:

    it mentions they are "hand painted". whew, that's gonna up the price a bit. 

     

    KA1 said:
    Hi Mike, you've quoted $250 followed by saying thats a 12inch figure whereas the Game Print post is quoting $250 for 7inch with 12inch $450+?? Can we get clarification on this contradiction, there is no transparency on actaul pricing yet with these mixed messages :/

    Hey KA1

    Yes sorry about that, we made some quick changes. I've invited the actually GamePrint account manager to directly respond. 

     

    We ship globally and not just for US, we added a widget on the site that automatically calcuatles shipping and if there are any taxes for each country.  

    Edited to fix quote

    Post edited by Richard Haseltine on
  • MikeMakdahMikeMakdah Posts: 8
    edited October 2017
    th3Digit said:

    https://www.daz3d.com/3d-print-details

    DAZ just tapped into a way to rob me blind and fill my shelves with figurines

    I have an XYZ printer but it's utter crap and until now the inability to do our custom charcters and clothing stopped me from buying

    but now eeeeeek

    Heheh, we all love collectibles, espeically when you get to customize them. 

    Let me know if you need any help ordering through GamePrint. 

    This week we have a promotion for a limited time. 

    • 10% off on the first order, to give you back the cost of the plugin. ($25 discount)
    • Also shipping is included in your order. 
    • Cost of each collectible 7-inch standard collectible is $250 

    Edited to fix quote

    Post edited by Richard Haseltine on
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