Has anyone here bought a Treadripper rig and used it for Studio yet?

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  • Some pics of the GPU's

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  • surrealsurreal Posts: 198

    Some pics of the GPU's

    Robert, I had the same problem (USB3 header cable blocking PCIE card install) on my ASUS board. Found a low profile USB3 header cable (CAB024) from modDIY worked perfectly.

    https://www.moddiy.com/products/USB-3.0-20%2dPin-Internal-Header-Adapter-Cable-(Low-Profile-Connector).html

    Very interested in how your dual power supplies go. I have recently had a top of the line Antec replaced on warentee. System has spent more time off line than on thus not that much use so I nolong have confidance in their claim of tandem working and server grade.

    Will also follow with interest how well your cooling setup works. I am seriously considering just putting a 10gallon tank outside, not pretty but neither is multiple external radiators. Would be far quieter.  

  • surreal said:

     

    Robert, I had the same problem (USB3 header cable blocking PCIE card install) on my ASUS board. Found a low profile USB3 header cable (CAB024) from modDIY worked perfectly.

    https://www.moddiy.com/products/USB-3.0-20%2dPin-Internal-Header-Adapter-Cable-(Low-Profile-Connector).html

    Very interested in how your dual power supplies go. I have recently had a top of the line Antec replaced on warentee. System has spent more time off line than on thus not that much use so I nolong have confidance in their claim of tandem working and server grade.

    Will also follow with interest how well your cooling setup works. I am seriously considering just putting a 10gallon tank outside, not pretty but neither is multiple external radiators. Would be far quieter.  

    First time putting more than one power supply in a system at he same time.

    I've split things up on the system the upper power supply will handle the GPU's ,motherboard,and CPU while the bottom one will handle hard drives, fans, and both cooling loops one for the CPU and one for the GPUS

    I considered getting a small vehicle radiator and adapting it 

  • surrealsurreal Posts: 198

    ​You probably already know, but some lessons I learnt when the power supply failed and had to rearrange back to three GPU's and single power supply

    • Include a drain outlet that includes short length of pipe at the very bottom of each loop. Invaluable when having to drain a loop.
    • Quick release non-spill connectors can save a LOT of time and mess when doing minor or major rearrangements.

    Some other gotcha's learned are

    • Consider room temperature, five PE360 might just be enough to get the heat off the GPU's (and CPU's) but they don't work well if room AC cannot keep the room temperature below 78F.
    • RAM and other motherboard components, liquid cooling them might appear a gimmick. But they can get quite hot when rendering for considerable periods. A good fan focused on the RAM and other components works just as well as liquid coolers for most of them and at a lot less cost and hassle.  
    • Mains power, know what mains power circuits you are drawing on. If PC and AC are on same circuit you may find that 2Kw from PC and 1Kw from room AC exceeds the circuit's capacity. 
    • Hardware can compensate but nothing beats skill and knowledge when it comes to render speed smiley  
  • GatorGator Posts: 1,320

    GAWDDANGIT  ><

     

    Freakin' NVMe drive died.  Could have been worse though, it was the D: drive and not the boot drive.  I only lost my library, and where a couple of games were installed.  Still, lost a day digging out another drive from a system to put in it.  Sigh.

    From a quick 10 minute render, the 1080 Ti's were still just a bit faster than the Titan X Pascal stock.  The Titans did run 1800+ MHz on the watercooling without any sort of overclocking, kind of strange that's way over the advertised boost clock.  I noticed the memory speed is a lot higher on the 1080 Ti, so I gotta play with overclocking the Titans a bit since their cooling should be better.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,925

    ...losing my Library/Runtime drive would be far worse than the Boot/Programme one as it is much larger has has much more on it that I'd have to rebuild.

  • GatorGator Posts: 1,320
    edited October 2017
    kyoto kid said:

    ...losing my Library/Runtime drive would be far worse than the Boot/Programme one as it is much larger has has much more on it that I'd have to rebuild.

    That's where Install Manager really comes in.  You can export the list of installed products to a CSV, and then import it to select what products to install.  Pretty easy.  smiley

     

    There's an extra step to allow DIM to use a network drive.  So you can use a NAS, server, or another computer for the package files if you keep them.  If you don't do that, then you're downloading again, which is really easy with the CSV import & export, it just takes time.

     

    I already had to start over once because the extra Asus utilities really messed up 3D app performance.  At least I had an image of a mostly bare Win install, but still takes a lot of time installing all the apps.

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,925
    edited October 2017

    ...I have a custom library/runtime setup that is categorised to make it easier to find things. I have a lot of freebies and older/other store content that does not have Metadata.  That would be a pain to rebuild.

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  • Had to redo some of my system seems that the Asus motherboard didn't like the ram that I bought (found out that this Asus board is a PITA for most everybody as it's real finicky) It would let me use 64gb of the 128 I bought but no more All the ram checked good.

    Got a different set of ram (still Corsair but advertised as Threadripper compatiable ram) and it functions without any problem Now i'm bleeding air out of the video cooling system again as I had to remove and test the cards and the slots to determine whether it was the ram or a video card or one of the slots on the Mb since the error code that was given could be caused by either one.

     

  • ebergerlyebergerly Posts: 3,255

     

    Had to redo some of my system seems that the Asus motherboard didn't like the ram that I bought (found out that this Asus board is a PITA for most everybody as it's real finicky) It would let me use 64gb of the 128 I bought but no more All the ram checked good.

    Y'know the motherboard manufacturers have what are called "compatibility lists" to tell you what memory will work on their systems. With memory prices so high lately it's a simple step to make sure you don't throw away all that money.  

     

  • ebergerlyebergerly Posts: 3,255

    Got a different set of ram (still Corsair but advertised as Threadripper compatiable ram) and it functions without any problem Now i'm bleeding air out of the video cooling system again as I had to remove and test the cards and the slots to determine whether it was the ram or a video card or one of the slots on the Mb since the error code that was given could be caused by either one.

    Wow, that's something I never thought of....if you have a liquid cooler that means any time you want to remove a liquid cooled device you have to empty your cooling system, and then re-fill when you're done? That must be painful. 

     

  • Robert FreiseRobert Freise Posts: 4,598
    edited November 2017
    ebergerly said:

     

    Had to redo some of my system seems that the Asus motherboard didn't like the ram that I bought (found out that this Asus board is a PITA for most everybody as it's real finicky) It would let me use 64gb of the 128 I bought but no more All the ram checked good.

    Y'know the motherboard manufacturers have what are called "compatibility lists" to tell you what memory will work on their systems. With memory prices so high lately it's a simple step to make sure you don't throw away all that money.  

     

    Yeah but even though the ram was on the list it didn't work that's something else that those of us who bought this motherboard have found out is that it may or may not work

    In some cases a bios upgrade has solved the problem 

    Like some others this may be the last Asus mb I buy as they seem to have gone down in quality along with their support

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    are pre built 16 cores out yet?

  • JamesJABJamesJAB Posts: 1,766
    Mistara said:

    are pre built 16 cores out yet?

    ALIENWARE AREA-51 GAMING DESKTOP THREADRIPPER EDITION (comes with 16 core configurations)
    iBuypower has 3 models with threadrippers (2 with the 16 core as default and the other can be configured with it)
    CyberPowerPC has 6 threadripper models (2 come default with the 16 core)
    CybertronPC has 3 Threadripper models and all can be configured with the 16 core.

    There's a few for you

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    ebergerly said:

     

    Had to redo some of my system seems that the Asus motherboard didn't like the ram that I bought (found out that this Asus board is a PITA for most everybody as it's real finicky) It would let me use 64gb of the 128 I bought but no more All the ram checked good.

    Y'know the motherboard manufacturers have what are called "compatibility lists" to tell you what memory will work on their systems. With memory prices so high lately it's a simple step to make sure you don't throw away all that money.  

     

    Yeah but even though the ram was on the list it didn't work that's something else that those of us who bought this motherboard have found out is that it may or may not work

    In some cases a bios upgrade has solved the problem 

    Like some others this may be the last Asus mb I buy as they seem to have gone down in quality along with their support

    I got my first MSI MB and I'm very happy with the system

     

    Mistara said:

    are pre built 16 cores out yet?

    For a couple of months now - see image; Scan (UK) offer systems, and allow quite a lot of customisation. I built my own, and will likely add a water cooler when I find one I'm happy with.

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  • kyoto kid said:
    ....for now I'll stick to HDDs, the case I have is so well soundproofed I don't notice.  I never ever store important data or work of mine in the cloud   I'll get another  backup HDD before that.

    Sorry, this is from Page 2 in this thread, but you can count me as another strong proponent of SSDs.  With fewer and fewer hard drive makers (they're all merging), there will be less and less competition.  Which is usually followed by lower quality and higher prices.

    I got off that train.  Now I use 8TB HDDs only for backups.  I have two spinners with data on them (one in laptop, the other in desktop), but I am swapping them out, purely because I think they are less reliable over time than a solid state drive.

    Also...if anybody thinks that the write threshold of SSDs makes them fragile, I recommend you look up the series of articles from Tech Report's torture test done a couple years ago.  The entire field of SSDs tested survived MUCH longer than anybody expected them to.  In fact, even with the price premium, I can make the case that they are more cost-efficient than hard drives (for OS, apps, data).  Take just the time you'd spend recovering from one hard drive failure.  Nobody's ever had a hard drive fail, right?  Now add in the money you'd have to spend for a replacement hard drive, and there you have it.  Well, there I have it, since I back up, on a monthly basis, 5TB in my PC and another 4 TB from my laptop.

    Sorry for dredging up an old topic, but I felt this needed some attention and I figured there'd be a lot more stuff later in the thread.

  • ebergerlyebergerly Posts: 3,255

    Yeah, I tend to agree about SSD's. I've become a big fan. There's just something wonderful about my desktop booting almost instantly after I enter my password.

    In comparison, for the content-type stuff on my 7200 RPM HDD, often I'll click to do something and I can hear my HDD, think about it for a second, then come out of its sleep and spin up while it accesses what I want. It even has me thinking about replacing my 3TB HDD with an SSD someday when prices get reasonable. Which they will.

     

  • Just waiting for large SSD sizes to become affordable as well

    Looks like I'm about to get my TR4 running finally got the motherboard to recognize everything and Windows seeing all the graphics cards so hopefully everything will finish testing and be good to go

  • ebergerlyebergerly Posts: 3,255
    edited November 2017

    Actually, in terms of real, practical benefits for the stuff I do, I'd tend to rate the techologies as follows, in terms of decreasing real life performance benefits:

    1. Powerful GPU (very important)
    2. SSD
    3. Enough memory  (at least 16GB)
    4. Powerful CPU (the least benefit for stuff I do; in fact I could have a much weaker CPU and rarely even notice)
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  • Just waiting for large SSD sizes to become affordable as well

    Me too!  I would love a 4TB SSD option.

  • Just waiting for large SSD sizes to become affordable as well

    Me too!  I would love a 4TB SSD option.

    They're coming about $1500.00 right now but I've seen some articles talking about new processes for manufacture and different types of wafers that should drop prices

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,925

    Just waiting for large SSD sizes to become affordable as well

    Looks like I'm about to get my TR4 running finally got the motherboard to recognize everything and Windows seeing all the graphics cards so hopefully everything will finish testing and be good to go

    ...+1

  • Finally got my Threadripper setup 

    Asus Zenith Extreme motherboard

    TR4 1950x

    4 x GTX 1070 AERO 8G OC

    128Gb Ram

    Having some problems with my Wacom probably due to Win10 update so all I did was one render using cpu and all 4 gpus the total time was 1 min 16 sec

  • cjreynoldscjreynolds Posts: 155
    edited January 2018

    For those who haven't yet sold their firstborn child to buy an ASUS motherboard, I've read numerous articles/reviews about MSI boards re:Theadripper, and they are mostly quite positive - particularly the Gaming Pro Carbon AC model.

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  • Also, from what I've read they work well with Win 7! It seems they lack PS2 connectors, so you'll have to stream the USB drivers into the install media so you can use a USB keyboard/mouse to install...

  • Be real careful about updates 

    I've read alot of posts where peoples systems stopped functioning after updates and not just updates from Microsoft

  • tj_1ca9500btj_1ca9500b Posts: 2,057
    edited July 2018

    Just wondering how you Threadripper guys are making out with your rigs, now that you've gotten all settled in with them.  Has it been smooth sailing, or have issues popped up with Daz?

    I was seriously considering giving EPYC a whirl, right up to the point where 32 core Threadripper was announced.  If the $1500 or so pricing rumors are in the ballpark, yeah 32 core Threadripper appeals to me.  I wasn't really planning on more than 4 graphic cards anyways, and PCIex16 currently isn't that much faster than x8, so the extra 64 PCIe lanes (with EPYC) was going to be overkill for me anyways...

    I'm planning on running two instances of Daz simultaneously at times (I kind of do this now sometimes if I'm cranking out a bunch of stuff at once), with the first instance using the first two cards and the second instance using the other two, once I actually buy more than 2 cards...  That way I can 'alternate' between projects while I'm working on renders.  The 'two instances' thing works for me, as I can tweak poses and such in one instance while the second is crunching away at a render.

    Hence my curiosity r.e. how your last few months with Threadripper have been.

     

     

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  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

    Works well with Studio; renders decently if it drops to CPU; I'm considering swapping to the new 32 core when it appears.

    Just wondering how you Threadripper guys are making out with your rigs, now that you've gotten all settled in with them.  Has it been smooth sailing, or have issues popped up with Daz?

    I was seriously considering giving EPYC a whirl, right up to the point where 32 core Threadripper was announced.  If the $1500 or so pricing rumors are in the ballpark, yeah 32 core Threadripper appeals to me.  I wasn't really planning on more than 4 graphic cards anyways, and PCIex16 currently isn't that much faster than x8, so the extra 64 PCIe lanes (with EPYC) was going to be overkill for me anyways...

    I'm planning on running two instances of Daz simultaneously at times (I kind of do this now sometimes if I'm cranking out a bunch of stuff at once), with the first instancc using the first two cards and the second instance using the other two, once I actually buy more than 2 cards...  That way I can 'alternate' between projects while I'm working on renders.  The 'two instances' thing works for me, as I can tweak poses and such in one instance while the second is crunching away at a render.

    Hence my curiosity r.e. how your last few months with Threadripper have been.

     

     

    The presentation Intel did appeared to be deliberately misleading, so I wouldn't have bought it if AMD hadn't produced the goods.

  • tj_1ca9500btj_1ca9500b Posts: 2,057
    edited July 2018

     

    nicstt said:

    Works well with Studio; renders decently if it drops to CPU; I'm considering swapping to the new 32 core when it appears.

    (snip)

    Well the good news is that you should be able to get by with just a a bios update for your existing board, although you may need to be mindful of the TDP.

    That's what Lisa said anyways (backwards compatable with existing motherboards).

    I know that one of the 'otherwise optimally configured PCIe x16 slot' boards for  quad double width  graphics cards had an issue with the last PCIe slot  blocking some of the IO headers if it was populated with a double width card, so I'll be watching for that with whichever board I end up with.

    This Asrock EPYC board (yeah not for Threadripper of course) looks like it'd have a similar issue with that last PCIe slot, but maybe a PCIe extender could help mitigate that problem a bit, assuming that you could work out how to mount the 'extended' card inside your case.  Single width liquid cooled graphics cards would also be nice, but I'm not seeing a decent 1080 Ti option there.

    I'd like to have one of the x8 slots 'open' for a specialty card, for audio work, but one thing at a time...

    I'm looking forward to seeing what the 'second wave' of Threadripper motherboards brings...

     

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