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  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704
    edited November 2016

    I've checked it  and the nails are really poorly done. Nail beds look funky Why didn't they catch that in q and a? Also toenails may be an issue.

     

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  • nelsonsmithnelsonsmith Posts: 1,337
    edited November 2016

    I don't know about that. wink  I think a rockstar would be a great idea and more original than Lucian at present. Personally grouchy does not make swoon At all. Quite the opposite. And I think the warrior look at least the fantasy warrior is rather over represented.

    But to each his own. 

    Actually a rock star would be a lot more imaginative than the same 'ol schtick we tend to get with male figures.  That would have been an interesting theme, as well as opening the door to some new clothes.  I mean even if you're going the vampire route, Lestat was a Rockstar.

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  • Etrigan said:
    Etrigan said:
    Morana said:

    My first impression of the main promo picture is of the rich lord's illegitimate son that is overly angry at the world, takes it out on everyone around him, and you wish would just fall off his horse in the first act. lol  He looks too young for my taste in some shots, and just unpleasantly surly in others.  Sadly I just don't like him based on the promos, and I was looking forward to a new male.

    A much older reference than the Potter books, but he would work well for Gwydion, the illegitimate son of Morgaine and King Arthur (Mists of Avalon:  Marion Zimmer Bradley 1983 United States, Knopf ISBN 0-394-52406-3, Pub Date January 1983, hardcover).

    Ehmmm, wasn't the name of the son Mordred? I haven't read this specific Bradley's book (did read others of her, so I know the cult) but in the movie and in the legends the son was always Mordred, and I believe they only had one son, for obvious reasons.

    The legends of Arthur have a lot of variation in them. You caused me doubt, although my original statement was taken from a discussion about "Mists of Avalon". I'm sure Bradley, too, took some liberty with her characters. According to Wikipedia, "Mordred or Modred (/ˈmoʊdrɛd/WelshMedrautMedrod, etc.) is a character in the Arthurian legend, known as a notorious traitor who fought King Arthur at the Battle of Camlann, where he was killed and Arthur fatally wounded. Tradition varies on his relationship to Arthur, but he is best known today as Arthur's illegitimate son by his half-sister Morgause, though in many modern adaptations Morgause is merged with the character of Morgan le Fay. In earlier literature, he was considered the legitimate son of Morgause, also known as Anna, with her husband King Lot of Orkney. His brothers or half-brothers are GawainAgravainGaheris, and Gareth. The name (from either Old Welsh Medraut, Cornish Modred, or Old Breton Modrot) is ultimately derived from Latin Moderātus.[1] "

    That said, I may still be mixing my legendary heroes and villains.

     

    Wait - moderators are the illegitimate offspring of King Arthur? Wow.

  • Actually, the more I play around with Lucian, the more I like the figure. 

     

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  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704

     

    Actually a rock star would be a lot more imaginative than the same 'ol schtick we tend to get with male figures.  That would have been an interesting theme, as well as opening the door to some new clothes.  I mean even if you're going the vampire route, Lestat was a Rockstar.

    I like the idea too. I really would like a character in that theme. Maybe they'll do it with Darius. Beats the Voodoo theme.

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

    Awesome, just what we need, more Armour.

    Guess I'll pass, although to be fair, I buy more female characters.

     

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

    Why are so many guys in the "7" lineup so old looking? There seems to be a pretty big gap between Tween Ryan and everybody else. I guess all the ladies like older men after all.

    A few Lucian pics kind of remind me of some 90's rock singers, or something. His "role" should have been a rocker, The Daz main line doesn't have that. We got lots of warrior dudes now. Daz needs a rockstar! It would seem like an obvious thing to me, giving the girls somebody to swoon over.

    Mum has hundreds of romance novels, and I went to look after I read your comment. (I'm physically scared by the experience. crying)

    The women are rarely still in their teens or 20, except on occasions in the historical ones, the men tend to be mid to late twenties onwards, and mostly at least late twenties; thirties is common.

    Women, and even younger women seem to prefer slightly older men or somewhat more than slightly. Six packs are common on the covers (yes bare chests are common - if not the norm), and descriptions talk about character in the faces.

  • Etrigan said:
    Etrigan said:
    Morana said:

    My first impression of the main promo picture is of the rich lord's illegitimate son that is overly angry at the world, takes it out on everyone around him, and you wish would just fall off his horse in the first act. lol  He looks too young for my taste in some shots, and just unpleasantly surly in others.  Sadly I just don't like him based on the promos, and I was looking forward to a new male.

    A much older reference than the Potter books, but he would work well for Gwydion, the illegitimate son of Morgaine and King Arthur (Mists of Avalon:  Marion Zimmer Bradley 1983 United States, Knopf ISBN 0-394-52406-3, Pub Date January 1983, hardcover).

    Ehmmm, wasn't the name of the son Mordred? I haven't read this specific Bradley's book (did read others of her, so I know the cult) but in the movie and in the legends the son was always Mordred, and I believe they only had one son, for obvious reasons.

    The legends of Arthur have a lot of variation in them. You caused me doubt, although my original statement was taken from a discussion about "Mists of Avalon". I'm sure Bradley, too, took some liberty with her characters. According to Wikipedia, "Mordred or Modred (/ˈmoʊdrɛd/WelshMedrautMedrod, etc.) is a character in the Arthurian legend, known as a notorious traitor who fought King Arthur at the Battle of Camlann, where he was killed and Arthur fatally wounded. Tradition varies on his relationship to Arthur, but he is best known today as Arthur's illegitimate son by his half-sister Morgause, though in many modern adaptations Morgause is merged with the character of Morgan le Fay. In earlier literature, he was considered the legitimate son of Morgause, also known as Anna, with her husband King Lot of Orkney. His brothers or half-brothers are GawainAgravainGaheris, and Gareth. The name (from either Old Welsh Medraut, Cornish Modred, or Old Breton Modrot) is ultimately derived from Latin Moderātus.[1] "

    That said, I may still be mixing my legendary heroes and villains.

     

    Wait - moderators are the illegitimate offspring of King Arthur? Wow.

    So not Satan after all eh?  Blimey!

  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,533

    I've checked it  and the nails are really poorly done. Nail beds look funky Why didn't they catch that in q and a? Also toenails may be an issue.

     

    check screenshots

    I'm not seeing those problems.

    To get rid of the slight green tinge to his nails change the translucency colour to a pale pink.

  • posecastposecast Posts: 386

    Can someone with zev0 morphs de-age this guy and show us what he looks like at about 16-19 years old?

  • Etrigan said:
    Etrigan said:
    Morana said:

    My first impression of the main promo picture is of the rich lord's illegitimate son that is overly angry at the world, takes it out on everyone around him, and you wish would just fall off his horse in the first act. lol  He looks too young for my taste in some shots, and just unpleasantly surly in others.  Sadly I just don't like him based on the promos, and I was looking forward to a new male.

    A much older reference than the Potter books, but he would work well for Gwydion, the illegitimate son of Morgaine and King Arthur (Mists of Avalon:  Marion Zimmer Bradley 1983 United States, Knopf ISBN 0-394-52406-3, Pub Date January 1983, hardcover).

    Ehmmm, wasn't the name of the son Mordred? I haven't read this specific Bradley's book (did read others of her, so I know the cult) but in the movie and in the legends the son was always Mordred, and I believe they only had one son, for obvious reasons.

    The legends of Arthur have a lot of variation in them. You caused me doubt, although my original statement was taken from a discussion about "Mists of Avalon". I'm sure Bradley, too, took some liberty with her characters. According to Wikipedia, "Mordred or Modred (/ˈmoʊdrɛd/WelshMedrautMedrod, etc.) is a character in the Arthurian legend, known as a notorious traitor who fought King Arthur at the Battle of Camlann, where he was killed and Arthur fatally wounded. Tradition varies on his relationship to Arthur, but he is best known today as Arthur's illegitimate son by his half-sister Morgause, though in many modern adaptations Morgause is merged with the character of Morgan le Fay. In earlier literature, he was considered the legitimate son of Morgause, also known as Anna, with her husband King Lot of Orkney. His brothers or half-brothers are GawainAgravainGaheris, and Gareth. The name (from either Old Welsh Medraut, Cornish Modred, or Old Breton Modrot) is ultimately derived from Latin Moderātus.[1] "

    That said, I may still be mixing my legendary heroes and villains.

     

    As I said, in the movie after Bradley's book, of the same name (with Anjelica Huston as Lady Vivian), the son was called Mordred. I know the main line was that Mordred was the son of Morgause and Arthur, but exactly here Bradley took her liberty: although technically Mordred was the son of Morgaine, it was basically raised by Morgause and felt like a brother to her sons. This version could have caused the same legend of him being Morgause's son, so personally I thought it was a clever solution, especially since Morgaine was a positive character in Bradley's books. 

    Also, I think the whole Mordred-Arthur conflict wouldn't have been valid if Mordred wasn't his son. At some point Mordred claims the crown while his father is away to fight a war. That wouldn't be very likely if he was the son of Margause and Lot. That said, there was a whole theme in "Mists of Avalon" about how the sons of Lot were the next of kin if Arthur remained childless. I never got why, but it could make Mordred as his son one of the airs, be it not for him being younger than his (half-)brothers. Also I think Mordreds wickedness was based on him being a product of incest. So that also gives more points to this version. It was also very symbolic: Arthur, being the greatest king of all times (at least at the time those legends were told) was beaten by his own wicked son and they die together (or almost together, since Arthur is taken to Avalon first). It's symbolic for light and darkness fighting each other but neither being able to win. 

  • N-RArtsN-RArts Posts: 1,603

    To be honest, I wasn't too impressed with him. However, I LOVE how he looks in the Promo(s) for Jepe and Khory's Gothic Edition for BeddingZ. So, I've ended up buying the Pro Bundle.

    Plus, my G3M how has his "Anatomical Element" :P

     

  • NadinoNadino Posts: 258
    Timbales said:

    G3M's 'figures' aren't doing it for me. They remind me of M3 in a lot of ways. Fingers crossed for G4M.

    Lucian's body definately reminds me of M3. I'm hoping for better 'figures' for G4M too. For me, his line just keeps disappointing.

    @Serene Night  I just noticed the blue toenails - weird. I also get the weird toenails / fingernails shapes - kind of hard to miss when looking.

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  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704

    Thanks I. Will, however I really want daz to fix the nail color and brow color issue. This is an obvious bug that should've been caught in testing. Yes I can fix these things but buyers shouldn't be beta testers... Lucian pro is rather expensive to ship with texture issues.

  • NadinoNadino Posts: 258

    ^^ I think the nail shape is more of a morph issue than a texture issue - really noticable before rendering. It's like the nail bed is going through the nail.

    The blue nail polish might just be how Lucian rolls I dunno LOL :P

  • Chanteur-de-VentChanteur-de-Vent Posts: 567
    edited November 2016

    Can someone with zev0 morphs de-age this guy and show us what he looks like at about 16-19 years old?

    Here are three quick renders with Youth Morph at 0%, 10% and 30%. 

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  • nicstt said:
    Mum has hundreds of romance novels, and I went to look after I read your comment. (I'm physically scared by the experience. crying)

    If you're looking for a remedy to over-expoure to romance novels, take a look at this: Longmire does Romance Novels. My favourite is this one:

    Lucien looks interesting enough, though I'm spent out after the last few weeks. He reminds me (in some promo images at least) of a young Harrison Ford. Maybe it's the scowl.

  • outrider42outrider42 Posts: 3,679
    Nadino said:
    Timbales said:

    G3M's 'figures' aren't doing it for me. They remind me of M3 in a lot of ways. Fingers crossed for G4M.

    Lucian's body definately reminds me of M3. I'm hoping for better 'figures' for G4M too. For me, his line just keeps disappointing.

    @Serene Night  I just noticed the blue toenails - weird. I also get the weird toenails / fingernails shapes - kind of hard to miss when looking.

    G4 better be a very long way away. We don't need a new generation of figure any time soon.

  • That said, there was a whole theme in "Mists of Avalon" about how the sons of Lot were the next of kin if Arthur remained childless. I never got why, but it could make Mordred as his son one of the airs, be it not for him being younger than his (half-)brothers.

    Ygraine was the mother of Morgause and Morgan, by her husband, and of Authur, by Uther Pendragon after Merlin disguised him as her husband. So the inheritance would presumably be seen as going to next of kin even if they didn't actually have Uther as a parent.

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704
    Nadino said:
    Timbales said:

    G3M's 'figures' aren't doing it for me. They remind me of M3 in a lot of ways. Fingers crossed for G4M.

    Lucian's body definately reminds me of M3. I'm hoping for better 'figures' for G4M too. For me, his line just keeps disappointing.

    @Serene Night  I just noticed the blue toenails - weird. I also get the weird toenails / fingernails shapes - kind of hard to miss when looking.

    G4 better be a very long way away. We don't need a new generation of figure any time soon.

    Next year if the rumor mill is true

  • N-RArtsN-RArts Posts: 1,603
    edited November 2016

     Lucien + Ryo Hair = a young(ish) Simon Le Bon (Duran Duran) cheeky

    Although, I'm probably the only one seeing this (I only saw it when I added the Ryo Hair).

     

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  • IceDragonArtIceDragonArt Posts: 12,757
    Etrigan said:
    Etrigan said:
    Morana said:

    My first impression of the main promo picture is of the rich lord's illegitimate son that is overly angry at the world, takes it out on everyone around him, and you wish would just fall off his horse in the first act. lol  He looks too young for my taste in some shots, and just unpleasantly surly in others.  Sadly I just don't like him based on the promos, and I was looking forward to a new male.

    A much older reference than the Potter books, but he would work well for Gwydion, the illegitimate son of Morgaine and King Arthur (Mists of Avalon:  Marion Zimmer Bradley 1983 United States, Knopf ISBN 0-394-52406-3, Pub Date January 1983, hardcover).

    Ehmmm, wasn't the name of the son Mordred? I haven't read this specific Bradley's book (did read others of her, so I know the cult) but in the movie and in the legends the son was always Mordred, and I believe they only had one son, for obvious reasons.

    The legends of Arthur have a lot of variation in them. You caused me doubt, although my original statement was taken from a discussion about "Mists of Avalon". I'm sure Bradley, too, took some liberty with her characters. According to Wikipedia, "Mordred or Modred (/ˈmoʊdrɛd/WelshMedrautMedrod, etc.) is a character in the Arthurian legend, known as a notorious traitor who fought King Arthur at the Battle of Camlann, where he was killed and Arthur fatally wounded. Tradition varies on his relationship to Arthur, but he is best known today as Arthur's illegitimate son by his half-sister Morgause, though in many modern adaptations Morgause is merged with the character of Morgan le Fay. In earlier literature, he was considered the legitimate son of Morgause, also known as Anna, with her husband King Lot of Orkney. His brothers or half-brothers are GawainAgravainGaheris, and Gareth. The name (from either Old Welsh Medraut, Cornish Modred, or Old Breton Modrot) is ultimately derived from Latin Moderātus.[1] "

    That said, I may still be mixing my legendary heroes and villains.

     

    Wait - moderators are the illegitimate offspring of King Arthur? Wow.

    Who knew?  lol!

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704
    edited November 2016

    I put in a work request for the problems with Lucian's fingernails, toenails and mats. Hopefully they will correct hese issues.

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  • RCDescheneRCDeschene Posts: 2,816

    Who else is getting some wonky eye business with the DA Shadow Pose Set?

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  • OstadanOstadan Posts: 1,130

    He ages well.

     

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  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704
    edited November 2016

    Who else is getting some wonky eye business with the DA Shadow Pose Set?

    I've seen that issue when a character preset is not fully dialed in. Do you have a partial character dialed in or is that pure Lucian?

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,723

    Definitely looks like Simon LeBon. I did keep thinking it was someone I know from my high school days but well LeBon was Mtv all the time in my high school days and that pout is famous.

  • That said, there was a whole theme in "Mists of Avalon" about how the sons of Lot were the next of kin if Arthur remained childless. I never got why, but it could make Mordred as his son one of the airs, be it not for him being younger than his (half-)brothers.

    Ygraine was the mother of Morgause and Morgan, by her husband, and of Authur, by Uther Pendragon after Merlin disguised him as her husband. So the inheritance would presumably be seen as going to next of kin even if they didn't actually have Uther as a parent.

    Even if this is true, which would be weird, in Mists of Avalon Morgause wasn't Morgaine's sister, but her aunt. Which would make Morgaine the next of kin and her children. And if that line fails (I do remember Morgause trying to make sure Mordred wouldn't be born for that same reason, Morgaine's children were considered competition), wouldn't Vivian and her children be first in line, since Vivian was the oldest of the three sisters (Vivian, Igraine, Morgause)? According to Bradley's story Vivian was the mother of Lancelot, which according to that logic would make him the next of kin, being Arthur's eldest half-cousin.

    I always thought the heritage was somehow meant to be through Lot, not Morgause herself. With maybe Morgaine being the next of kin, but then also the last of kin.

  • SpyroRueSpyroRue Posts: 5,020
    Timbales said:

    G3M's 'figures' aren't doing it for me. They remind me of M3 in a lot of ways. Fingers crossed for G4M.

    I must say I feel the same way. This entire Genesis 3 been a complete miss for me, in a lot of ways it seems we stepped back to M3/V3... I don't see G4M being any better than 3 unless they actually ask and take in feedback.

    In regards to Lucian, the chest really annoys me, but thats nothing new XD

     

  • That said, there was a whole theme in "Mists of Avalon" about how the sons of Lot were the next of kin if Arthur remained childless. I never got why, but it could make Mordred as his son one of the airs, be it not for him being younger than his (half-)brothers.

    Ygraine was the mother of Morgause and Morgan, by her husband, and of Authur, by Uther Pendragon after Merlin disguised him as her husband. So the inheritance would presumably be seen as going to next of kin even if they didn't actually have Uther as a parent.

    Even if this is true, which would be weird, in Mists of Avalon Morgause wasn't Morgaine's sister, but her aunt. Which would make Morgaine the next of kin and her children. And if that line fails (I do remember Morgause trying to make sure Mordred wouldn't be born for that same reason, Morgaine's children were considered competition), wouldn't Vivian and her children be first in line, since Vivian was the oldest of the three sisters (Vivian, Igraine, Morgause)? According to Bradley's story Vivian was the mother of Lancelot, which according to that logic would make him the next of kin, being Arthur's eldest half-cousin.

    I always thought the heritage was somehow meant to be through Lot, not Morgause herself. With maybe Morgaine being the next of kin, but then also the last of kin.

    The whole thing seems subject to change without notice - Malory makes Morgause the eldest daughter, and I think T H White follows suit (though with more daughters, as  I recall), so that might be taken as the most standard version but there does eem to be a lot of variation.

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