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  • kaotkblisskaotkbliss Posts: 2,914

    "I could care less"

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 12,116
    edited August 2016

    I never knew there were so many ways to spell 'definitely' in the wrong way until I started going online. The internet has been a real education. As for misused words, my favourite was in an article directory piece about lighting which mentioned a lamp that would gently 'eliminate' any home. I think I'll stick to lamps that illuminate for mine :)

    Kerosene lamps were pretty good at eliminating homes.  And according to legend, one kerosene lamp and Mrs. O'Leary's cow eliminated Chicago. surprise

     

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,762
    edited August 2016

    Well a lot of mis-spellings are word suggestions by Google & FB and the suggestions almosts always wrong and designed to make the poster look stupid. And those suggestions  are infuriating when you must make multiple attempts to actually spell the word you want to spell. The ratio of incorrect suggested words that get past me is greater than the number of mispellings I would have made had I turned that feature off. Turn off by spending an inornate amount of time browsing through some bizarre set of UI menus unique to that online entity and that entity only.

    It makes sense for my doctors, chemists, engineers, and countless other professional trades to be able when communicating with each other to communiate in accurate and precise professional language that members of their profession understand and when communicating with people ignorant of that profession to communicate with them in language they understand. When one speaks to a group of strangers one should have the respect for that group to speak to them in polite clear language so they understand what is said.

    That's why things like Hoch Deutsch and Queen's English exist to begin with. It isn't a unique problem and it's not grammar NAZIsm to ask for someone that has demostrated that they can properly speak a standardized dialect to do so. Appalachian English and such dialects belong as short quotes in written works or in movies or as spoken. Dictionaries weren't invented to insult or hurt people after all but to avoid that.

    It doesn't really bother me too much either way, at least not in a forum about DAZ Studio, I only typically even see it brought up when someone only intended to insult the person making the grammatical mistake after they've lost an argument or only wanted to insult people to begin with. Whew, if this was a medical profession forum I'd be really upset but for DAZ Studio, ah, so what. Just like I know those slang speakers are not at work talking to their bosses and customers like that, or at least not for long if they want to keep their job.

    It is annoying though when you must make extra effort to figure out what somewhat wrote and you know they are more capable of proper English than you are. Most slang is a conscious effort to be exclusionary and elitist. If you've ever used Google search as a spell checker you've had to have seen countless purported slang terms defined as one of the 1st returned results that are typically insults at a site I refuse to name because the search results are artificially inflated with SEO activity and most of the slang terms in it are even fake.

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,925
    edited August 2016
    Mattymanx said:

    Sigh, language has become so cheapened, nobody cares anymore.  Vocabulary, grammar, spelling.  It's all just a toss-up isn't it? 

    (And don't think I didn't find both misspellings of "grammatical" in the previous post. wink)

     

    Welcome to the english language.  We can use it however we want.

    ps, you should try reading 13th century english

    ...I learned Queen's English when I was in school. The other day on a different forum I was accused of not being an American, and the person refused to read my post.

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,925
    edited August 2016

    ...fixed

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  • It's all scones, biscuits and cookies to me in the end. I'm glad for cultural variation because to me the outcome is horrible when everyone conforms to someones ideal of how it should be.

    In defense of the ad people at DAZ, I think they do a great job almost all the time. Must be a hell of a work load when you look at how much of it there is. Keep up the good work guys! :)

    Large chunks of this thread have had me in stitches. I wonder what the DAZ ad people would think if they bothered to read it? :)

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,296

    I never knew there were so many ways to spell 'definitely' in the wrong way until I started going online. The internet has been a real education. As for misused words, my favourite was in an article directory piece about lighting which mentioned a lamp that would gently 'eliminate' any home. I think I'll stick to lamps that illuminate for mine :)

    Kerosene lamps were pretty good at eliminating homes.  And according to legend, one kerosene lamp and Mrs. O'Leary's cow eliminated Chicago. surprise

     

    Lies spread by the coal lobby!  And that cow had been a prime suspect in three previous fires. 

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,925

    I never knew there were so many ways to spell 'definitely' in the wrong way until I started going online. The internet has been a real education. As for misused words, my favourite was in an article directory piece about lighting which mentioned a lamp that would gently 'eliminate' any home. I think I'll stick to lamps that illuminate for mine :)

    Kerosene lamps were pretty good at eliminating homes.  And according to legend, one kerosene lamp and Mrs. O'Leary's cow eliminated Chicago. surprise

     

    Lies spread by the coal lobby!  And that cow had been a prime suspect in three previous fires. 

    ...actually it was the gaslight lobby as coal never was used for lighting. wink

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,925
    edited August 2016

    Again, this thread was not about language shifting.  It started out sarcastically lamenting the decline of professionalism, shaming sloth and carelessness and holding people accountable.

    And for me it's always fun to see how long before the "Grammar Nazi" card is played in situations like this.

    ...I've seen it occur in several what should be "professionally" written articles or adverts.  During this campaign season I lost count of the poorly written typo infested emails and/or sites they linked to some from very well established sources.

    Hard to take them seriously when they don't even observe the fundamentals (and I'm bloody dyslexic).

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,925

    I've got to say, I'm curious about the pork chops.

    ...hope he doesn't come down with trichinosis .

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,925
    Stryder87 said:
    Etrigan said:

    The rampant degradation of the framework of English is but another symptom of our times. I observe in daily activities the degradation of all frameworks; once, rules provided a structure that underpinned society. Now, rules are to be ignored, un-learned, and deliberately broken in the name of freedom and individuality. 

    Very well put.  It's become an 'anything-goes', 'don't tell me what to do' world.

     

    That explains bike riders in big cities...

    ...especially here in Portland OR.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,925
     

    and spell check is no help with either of those! Dang you Daz and your bass-akwards website!

    ...yeah totally worthless as it won't flag words shorter than four letters, and some of the most common typos (dyslexic or not) are words like "the", "and", "can", etc....

  • namffuaknamffuak Posts: 4,419
    kyoto kid said:
    Mattymanx said:

    Sigh, language has become so cheapened, nobody cares anymore.  Vocabulary, grammar, spelling.  It's all just a toss-up isn't it? 

    (And don't think I didn't find both misspellings of "grammatical" in the previous post. wink)

     

    Welcome to the english language.  We can use it however we want.

    ps, you should try reading 13th century english

    ...I learned Queen's English when I was in school. The other day on a different forum I was accused of not being an American, and the person refused to read my post.

    I found the Sherlock Holmes stories at age 9 - bloody ruined my spelling scores for two years. (I'm in Northern Indiana :-) )

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,925

    ..yeah it can get odd sometimes:

     

  • Chanteur-de-VentChanteur-de-Vent Posts: 567
    edited August 2016
    Stryder87 said:

    But as mentioned at the beginning, I've been reviving my longhand writing, just because it's becoming a lost art.  Something of quality that my generation had that the new generation has thrown away.  Like good spelling, grammar, and cave painting. devil

    I read a great quote that basically said, pretty soon kids will have no ability to read or write longhand, so us oldtimers will be able to use it as secret code!! 

    I've been trying to learn Russian.  Even practice Russian longhand.  I was having trouble.  Then I found this.  I don't feel quite so bad now.laugh

     

    лилии, дымишь, дышишь, лишиться, слышишь, шиншиллы, ишемия

    Translation: lilies, (you're) smoking (as in not smoking a cigarette, but producing an actual smoke), (you're) breathing, to lose (something), (you're) hearing, chinchilla's, ischemia

    Ha! I can still do it. Haven't written in Russian longhand since I was 9. 

     

    That's why things like Hoch Deutsch and Queen's English exist to begin with. It isn't a unique problem and it's not grammar NAZIsm to ask for someone that has demostrated that they can properly speak a standardized dialect to do so. Appalachian English and such dialects belong as short quotes in written works or in movies or as spoken. Dictionaries weren't invented to insult or hurt people after all but to avoid that.

    Ever seen a German communicating with a Swiss German? The two will speak two different languages (one German, the other one Swiss German) and perfectly understand each other. And you're just standing there, understanding only half of what is spoken. Psychodelic much. 

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  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 12,116
    edited August 2016
    kyoto kid said:
    Mattymanx said:

    Sigh, language has become so cheapened, nobody cares anymore.  Vocabulary, grammar, spelling.  It's all just a toss-up isn't it? 

    (And don't think I didn't find both misspellings of "grammatical" in the previous post. wink)

     

    Welcome to the english language.  We can use it however we want.

    ps, you should try reading 13th century english

    ...I learned Queen's English when I was in school. The other day on a different forum I was accused of not being an American, and the person refused to read my post.

    Don't fret.  I ran into a story a while back where a guy reported that some low level US government worker he had to endure refused to help him because he wasn't an American because he came from "New Mexico". crying  Being uneducated is curable.  But so many refuse to admit they're ill.

     

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  • TangoAlphaTangoAlpha Posts: 4,587

    Biscuits and gravy. Had me totally confused.

     

    Try and get an American and an Englishman to table a motion (the phrase means exactly the opposite to each)

  • Ron KnightsRon Knights Posts: 2,196

    These days I read articles, watch tv, and I wonder when people stopped learning how to spell, speak properly, etc. I get a little upset, but have learned to conserve my energy.

  • jestmartjestmart Posts: 4,449

    Been watching the news lately with closed captions on because of ear infection.  Don't know whether to find all the mistakes amusing or depressing.

  • BlueIreneBlueIrene Posts: 1,318
    jestmart said:

    Been watching the news lately with closed captions on because of ear infection.  Don't know whether to find all the mistakes amusing or depressing.

    Reminds me of watching the wedding in 1981 of Prince Charles and Lady Diana Spencer. As usual, subtitles for the deaf were showing (nobody in the house was deaf, my dad just had a weird habit of watching TV with the sound turned down and subtitles on if it was something he wasn't particularly interested in watching. Which typically meant gardening and snooker. On a black and white TV). Some of the things that the bride and groom were described as doing were physically impossible, particularly Prince Charles. Definitely amusing :)

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 12,116
    edited August 2016
    jestmart said:

    Been watching the news lately with closed captions on because of ear infection.  Don't know whether to find all the mistakes amusing or depressing.

    I watch with captioning also.  I have a little bit of a problem with high frequencies and people who speak too fast.  I also use it for translation of the British shows but I leave captioning turned on all the time because it's such a pain to turn it on and off (it should be a direct button on the remote).  But yeah, I notice a lot of errors.  The actual speech says one thing and the caption writer person misinterprets and uses a word that is maybe close but sometimes totally wrong.  It could be carelessness or insufficient time.  But in many cases when the words were clearly pronounced I think it's just lack of sophistication to realize what was actually said.  It's bad enough when the show is a recording, at least the caption writer was theoretically capable of taking his time to create the captions.  On the other hand, live shows like News with captioning is miserably unsyncronized with the action and prone to error. sad I wouldn't want the job of live captioning.

    Unfortunately with the captioning on all the time even for shows that I don't need it for, I find myself reading the captions along with the speech instead of watching the action.  I try to break the habit but there's something about the written text changing at the bottom of the screen that just draws one's eye. frown

     

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  • StratDragonStratDragon Posts: 3,274
    edited August 2016
    fastbike1 said:

    In some parts of Boston's North End, you have gravy with your spaghetti. In Texas, you have gravy with your biscuit (or your chicken fired steak, or even more odd, your chicken fired chicken (not making this up).

    That gravy in Boston is red and is what most of the country calls spaghetti sauce. In Texas the gravy is white and is what most places in the US consider "Chicken" gravy.

    Boston and New Jersey call it gravy and New York does not (and we think they are nuts for insisting on calling it "gravy"). In New York, sauce is what goes on pasta and gravy is what goes on a roast and/or mash potatoes, and gravy goes on anything live, dead, or hit-by-truck in the South. Further more Southern gravy comes in white known as sawmill (bacon fat n' milk) , brown (critter stock), red (coffee, really bad coffee), or black which is possibly skunk (see hit-by-truck) BBQ in the South is specific to one animal and one part of that animal and it's cooked in a smoker, not a grill (or what us Yankees call a BBQ) BBQ in the North is anything you throw on a grill and cook outside. Anything you throw on a grill in the south is "grillin' out". BBQ sauce is in the North is whatever is on the shelf of ShopRite. In the South it is made from catsup or vinegar, and never do the two meet. Providing someone with the wrong BBQ sauce in the wrong geographic location is "fightin' words" and may have been the actual impetus for the American Civil War.

     

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  • SpitSpit Posts: 2,342

    People, this isn't about a blog comments section...this is an ad from a professional company. DIFFERENT rules.

     

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,187

    And I put either mustard or HP sauce on most things

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    edited August 2016
    NGartplay said:

    Shouldn't the advertisement have been 'Breathe life into 3D'....not 'breath'?  That's two wrong words in the ad.  Maybe it was on purpose?

    I have a short list of misused words that drive me crazy too.  Can you spot them?

    It's better to loose your money then to loose your mind.

    Your going to be in big trouble if father sees you.

    For who the bell tolls.

    To girls went too the store and were gone for two long.

    There really upset with they're mother.

    I wanted to see the affect of the effect.

    Ok, so I misuse 'who' and 'whom' sometimes.  We all make mistakes.  Some are accidental and some we don't know any better.  Just think that a large company should have better controls in place.

    After reading this, I had to go and lie down; I've only just come back to reply to it. :)

    Daz, I understand, is not that large; and no matter the size of an organisation, it's just run by people and mistakes are made.

    'Really wish they'd correct 'em though.

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  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    edited August 2016
    kyoto kid said:
    Mattymanx said:

    Sigh, language has become so cheapened, nobody cares anymore.  Vocabulary, grammar, spelling.  It's all just a toss-up isn't it? 

    (And don't think I didn't find both misspellings of "grammatical" in the previous post. wink)

     

    Welcome to the english language.  We can use it however we want.

    ps, you should try reading 13th century english

    ...I learned Queen's English when I was in school. The other day on a different forum I was accused of not being an American, and the person refused to read my post.

    Damn.

    I was correcting someone's english in an assignment and told them that learned is American, and learnt is English. It is amazing how much cross-over there is, but also how many subtle variations there are.

    The letter z for example is uncommon in the UK, mainly because we changed our spelling of many words some (no clue how many) hundreds of years ago; American English kept the spelling the same. Yet using the z is not actually wrong, mostly, it is just unusual.

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  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited August 2016
    nicstt said:
    kyoto kid said:
    Mattymanx said:

    Sigh, language has become so cheapened, nobody cares anymore.  Vocabulary, grammar, spelling.  It's all just a toss-up isn't it? 

    (And don't think I didn't find both misspellings of "grammatical" in the previous post. wink)

     

    Welcome to the english language.  We can use it however we want.

    ps, you should try reading 13th century english

    ...I learned Queen's English when I was in school. The other day on a different forum I was accused of not being an American, and the person refused to read my post.

    Damn.

    I was correcting someone's english in an assignment and told them that learned is American, and learnt is English. It is amazing how much cross-over there is, but also how many subtle variations there are.

    The letter z for example is uncommon in the UK, mainly because we changed our spelling of many words some (no clue how many) hundreds of years ago; American English kept the spelling the same. Yet using the z is not actually wrong, mostly, it is just unusual.

    The letter Z did not exist in the oldest languages spoken in the British Isles.  Celtic language split into Welsh, Cumbric, Cornish, and Breton..(The Britonnic or Brithonic languages)  Cumbric was mostly then replaced with Gaelic in the North of the Britsh isles and in Ireland, and neither form of gaelic has a Z in their alphabets either.  Z only came into the language with the various invasions such as the Romans, Angles, Saxons and later Normans.

    The English language is a hybrid, which contains words from all the previous languages and has had some letters added and some removed from it's alphabet compared to the older Brithonic alphabet.

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  • hphoenixhphoenix Posts: 1,335
    nicstt said:
    NGartplay said:

    Shouldn't the advertisement have been 'Breathe life into 3D'....not 'breath'?  That's two wrong words in the ad.  Maybe it was on purpose?

    I have a short list of misused words that drive me crazy too.  Can you spot them?

    It's better to loose your money then to loose your mind.

    Your going to be in big trouble if father sees you.

    For who the bell tolls.

    To girls went too the store and were gone for two long.

    There really upset with they're mother.

    I wanted to see the affect of the effect.

    Ok, so I misuse 'who' and 'whom' sometimes.  We all make mistakes.  Some are accidental and some we don't know any better.  Just think that a large company should have better controls in place.

    After reading this, I had to go and lie down; I've only just come back to reply to it. :)

    Daz, I understand, is not that large; and no matter the size of an organisation, it's just run by people and mistakes are made.

    'Really wish they'd correct 'em though.

    Yes, mistakes happen.  That is why for any published writing, it is traditional in business to have the copy PROOFREAD by an editor.  These editors are well trained (supposedly) to be able to pick out such mistakes and either correct them or send the copy back for revision.

    Proofreading a single image file should take an editor about 30 seconds.  There isn't that much text on it.  And while they won't usually be using complete sentences (so grammar isn't as much of an issue) spelling and basic usage should be easy.

    Breath is a noun.  Breathe is a verb.  Live is either a verb or an adjective.  Life is a noun.  This is basic usage/spelling.

  • Stryder87Stryder87 Posts: 899
    Chohole said:

    The letter Z did not exist in the oldest languages spoken in the British Isles.  Celtic language split into Welsh, Cumbric, Cornish, and Breton..(The Britonnic or Brithonic languages)  Cumbric was mostly then replaced with Gaelic in the North of the Britsh isles and in Ireland, and neither form of gaelic has a Z in their alphabets either.  Z only came into the language with the various invasions such as the Romans, Angles, Saxons and later Normans.

    I learn some really cool things following threads that spiral off-topic, then back on, then off again, then back on...  laugh

     

  • TangoAlphaTangoAlpha Posts: 4,587

    Bring back Þ (thorn)! Thorn was basically the "th-" in the or that (Þe or Þat) from early and middle English. By the 15th century it was being drawn similar to a Y, and so when moveable type started to appear, it was simply replaced with a Y (which gave rise to modern quaintisms like "Ye Olde Curiosity Shoppe") Ye in this context is still pronounced "the". Thorn still exists in Icelandic.

    Don't confuse it with the 2nd person nominative pronoun, ye (as in "Ye all are sons of the devil"), which is pronounced ye.

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