The Ashley hair released today lists supported shapes for Victoria 8 and Olympia 8.

Is this an indication of the next Gen8 figure, presumably to be released soon?

(apologies if this was already discussed and I missed it)

Holy cow! That's one cool image! love it. The new Victoria 8 is such a good character to work with hey. Great pose and scene. You have done so well with this. Thanks for sharing ANGELREAPER1972.

McGyver got it right, and i agree with him. The point is not the good improvements a new version will offer, the problem is the backward compatibility and how the market will react (i am a web developer and i know this behaviour in CMS, apps etc...). From G1 to G2, to G3, we all know what happened to the previous versions. No developer invests time making products for G1 or G2 today because this is pointless, last year their business was in G3. Today they all recognize they must run on the G8, and rushing, trashing or switching what they were doing for G3. Also, i read a post of someone a while ago, she was developing things for females characters because male characters are not selling well, so in her post she said that the male version of her product would never be released. This rule apply even in DAZ originals, don't you notice they release the Female, and Victoria PRO Bundle before the male character? In my opinion this sucks, everything is driven by the market.

These problems are important for a user who is doing a long lasting project (a graphic novel maybe?), so the "porno toons" and the huge amount of girls out there, is not what he is going after. Also the new versions are a pain, because they force everybody to start rethink a whole lot of things. All main characters are freezed in their "business" time.

Now i am asking: is there a way to make lossless improvements? Can we encourage the cross gender development (something like the G1 version was doing)? How can we protect creativity from the business perspective, so the market will not deteriminate what stuff is being developed? What is the point of a new version if it is almost the same thing of the previous one, also, it gives more problems than features? Could the new features be implemented as new module instead? 

So, I picked up the Genesis 8 female and Victoria 8.  The following is just a test to see if I can use my current workflow to create a morph.  Hooray!  It worked.  I plan to learn Blender for future vertex modeling, but in the meantime, I was able to use Carrara. 

 

She certainly looks interesting! The ears are particularly unique.

victoria's eyebrows, and the eyelashes are following the pose controls, but arent following the morphs. not following the V8 head shape

basic wear isnt scaling with vicki 8

heavy sigh victoria 8 eyebrows crashy rara

Thanks @SixDs  I went the easy route, but kept the instructions for Victoria for future.  Everything is working now :)

DAZ 3D Art Freebie Challenge June 2017
"BEST/WORST VACATIONS/KID ADVENTURES"

"A day at the spa..."

Two songs come to mind, Reflections by Diana Ross and the Supremes, "Reflections of the way life used to be..." and Reflections Of My Life by The Marmalade...

Diana Ross and the Supremes - Reflections (1967)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nV72YrB1454

The Marmalade - Reflections Of My Life (1969)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTeI65yrhGw

USED FREEBIES:

#1! Relaxation Porch by inLite Studio
http://inlitestudio.com/3d/product/relaxation-porch/  **

#2! Super Morphing Tree by Design Anvil
https://issuu.com/philatdsc/docs/ds_creative_08  (page 9)

#3! Little Rose by klausdbg
http://www.sharecg.com/v/87286/gallery/5/3D-Model/Little-Rose  **

#4. M4 Regal poses by Portrait Studio (jlk)
http://www.sharecg.com/v/60821/browse/11/Poser/M4-Regal  **

#5! Indoor Plant 3 (OBJ) by 3DHaupt
http://www.sharecg.com/v/81046/gallery/5/3D-Model/Indoor-plant-3  **

#6! Cola in takeaway cup (OBJ) by Animated Heaven
http://www.sharecg.com/v/79186/gallery/5/3D-Model/Cola-in-takeaway-cup  **

#7! School Swimsuits v2.1.1 for A4 by Redviper
http://viper2012.s602.xrea.com/x/  (item 4)

#8! Nene Hair v1.0.1 for A4 by Redviper
http://viper2012.s602.xrea.com/x/  (item 5)

#9! Far East Girls Collection II for A4 by Redviper
http://www.sharecg.com/v/62353/gallery/11/Poser/Far-East-Girls-Collection-II-for-A4  **

#10! Mellora for V4.1, V4.2 by Adrella
http://www.sharecg.com/v/24157/browse/Poser/Mellora-for-V4.1,-V4.2  **

#11. Stacked Linen by TrekkieGrrrl
http://www.sharecg.com/v/18187/gallery/11/Poser/Stacked-Linen  **

#12. Crushable Can by TrekkieGrrrl
http://www.sharecg.com/v/18196/gallery/11/Poser/Crushable-beer-can  **

#13! M4 Hipster Glasses by Cool Tuna Studio
http://www.cooltuna.com/poser/poser-freebies.html  (item 8)

#14! Hamburger (Ready made or DIY) by Treasure Chest
http://trumarcar.francemi.net/foodprops_tc.htm  (item 29)

#15! Straw (Milk and Juice Cartons not used) by Treasure Chest
http://trumarcar.francemi.net/foodprops_tc.htm  (item 31)

#16. Dystopia Soda Can by Team Dystopia
http://www.team-dystopia.com/product_display.php?category=gear&id=59
- Extra textures:
http://www.team-dystopia.com/product_display.php?category=gear&id=60

#17. 4 diferent brands of textures for the Dystopia Soda Can by Area-50
http://www.sharecg.com/v/39968/gallery/11/Poser/4-Textures-for-the-Dystopia-Soda-Can  **

#18. Water Bottle Prop by AdamThwaites (Most-Digital-Creations)
http://www.most-digital-creations.com/free_poser_poses_textures_morphs_props_37.htm (Item 18)

#19. BigBurger by AdamThwaites (Most-Digital-Creations)
http://www.most-digital-creations.com/free_poser_poses_textures_morphs_props_19.htm (Item 4)

#20! Wind Chimes by Jim Farris (Xaa)
http://www.sharecg.com/v/41919/gallery/11/Poser/Wind-Chimes  **

#21. Tray by klausdbg
http://www.sharecg.com/v/75867/gallery/5/3D-Model/Jugcup-and-tray  **

#22! Blankets (Towels) by klausdbg
http://www.sharecg.com/v/74238/gallery/5/3D-Model/Summer-II-Blankets  **

#23! Suncreme by klausdbg
http://www.sharecg.com/v/74239/gallery/5/3D-Model/Summer-III-Suncreme  **

#24! Summer Cocktails by Sixus1
https://issuu.com/philatdsc/docs/ds_creative_20  (page 22)

#25! Flip Flops for V4 by LMDesign
http://www.lmdesign.co.uk/flip_flops.htm

#26! Evil Nurse Suit for V4 by ravenous
https://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/evil-nurse-suit/57290  **

#27! Buddha Statue (.3ds) by Vasari Giorgio
https://archive3d.net/?a=download&id=5b38497a

#28. SOTO's Shaved Hair for Michael 4 by Hellboy
http://www.sharecg.com/v/62755/browse/11/Poser/SOTOs-Shaved-Hair-for-Michael-4 **

#29. Genesis 2 Male Beard by Laticis Imagery
http://laticis.deviantart.com/art/Laticis-Imagery-FREE-Genesis-2-Male-Beard-512280041

#30. freeSPEX Glasses for Genesis by Slosh
http://www.sharecg.com/v/69673/browse/21/DAZ-Studio/freeSPEX-Glasses-for-Genesis-DAZ-4.6 **

#31. Sportsdress for G2F by Beat578 (Used the Training Bag, Trainingsuit Pants and Towel)
http://www.sharecg.com/v/83126/gallery/21/DAZ-Studio/G2_Sportsdress **
http://www.sharecg.com/v/83135/gallery/21/DAZ-Studio/G2_Sportsdress_PART2 **

#32. Bonnie for V4.1 by wintervon200
http://www.sharecg.com/v/23363/browse/11/Poser/Bonnie-For-DazV4.1-and-Morphs++ **

#33! Bubbling's Navel Piercing for V4 by fabiana (FK Design)
https://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/bubblings-navel-piercing/69231  **

#34. Morphing Puddle by TrekkieGrrrl
http://www.sharecg.com/v/18189/poser/Morphing-Puddle  **

#35. Basicwear for M4 by Daz Originals
https://www.daz3d.com/basicwear-for-m4  **

#36! Day at the Beach Bundle by Daz Originals (Used String Bikini for Victoria 6 and Charm hair for G2F)
https://www.daz3d.com/day-at-the-beach-bundle  **

#37! Sally Mae Hair by Daz Originals, Propschick
https://www.daz3d.com/sally-mae-hair  ** (Bi-weekly Freebie until Monday, July 3rd 2017)

OTHER FREEBIES USED:

Basicwear for Victoria 4 by Daz Originals
Birdnest by Daz Originals
Bubblings Navel Piercing for V4 by FK-Design
Buddha 3D Model by Antonelli Alessandro
CandyCayne for V4A4 by 3DSublimeProductions
Cola with morph by TrekkieGrrrl
DAZ Millennium Cat LE by Daz Originals
Diner Tableware by blondie9999, Daz Originals
DLD Stone Shaders for DAZ Studio by Daz Originals, Digital, Lite Design
Enchanted Island by ARTCollab, Daz Originals
Fantasy Sleeve by AdamThwaites (Most-Digital-Creations)
Grace for V4 by Daz Originals
In Bed by Dreamlight (Freebie version)
Kerenza-Belle6 for G2F by Enchanted Pixie
Labeled Whiskey Bottle by Area-50
LE_Ancient Vase by AdamThwaites (Most-Digital-Creations)
LE_Songbird by AdamThwaites (Most-Digital-Creations)
Longdrink Glass by Area-50
Nose piercing for M4 by Cool Tuna Studio
Paper Pile by Morphography
Pure Hair: Bubblegum for Genesis by Daz Originals
REC Satin Shaders by RedEyeCat
Riley for Stephanie 5 by Daz Originals
Statue 3D Model by Ismail
Stephanie 6 Starter Bundle by DAZ Originals
Surf's Up Outfit and Board for G2M by Daz Originals
Sweet Dreams by ARTCollab, Daz Originals
The Egg by Traveler, RuntimeDNA, Daz Originals
The Fly by AdamThwaites (Most-Digital-Creations)
Toulouse Hair for Genesis 2 Female by Daz Originals
'Travis' Cat Texture for the DAZ Mil Cat (LE) by Lyne's Creations
Ultimate Shader Pack for DAZ Studio by Georgehaze
Valana Outfit by Daz Originals, PoisenedLily, Sarsa

PURCHASED/PAID FOR ITEMS:

1. String Bikini for Victoria 6 Textures by Daz Originals, Sarsa
https://www.daz3d.com/string-bikini-textures  **

2. Zac Hair by Daz Originals, SWAM
https://www.daz3d.com/zac-hair  **

3. Genesis Bikini by Daz Originals, Bobbie25
https://www.daz3d.com/genesis-bikini  **

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.3ds models are converted to .obj here: http://www.greentoken.de/onlineconv/

Rendered in DAZ Studio 4.7.0.12
No postwork.
Other software used: GIMP v2.8.18

Actually, you do not need to have the V4 and M4 Shapes for Genesis in order to use Harleigh. You only need them if you wish to use the character with the Genesis figure. The character should work just fine on V4 without them. You may notice some small differences with the character when comparing the Genesis and V4 versions, however, which is normal.

The loading process for the character differs somewhat depending upon whether you are using V4 or Genesis. Since Genesis is designed specifically for use in DAZ Studio (although Poser use is possible), the Harleigh character for use with Genesis can be found under DAZ Studio Formats, and can be loaded either with a new instance of Genesis, or applied to a preloaded instance - your choice. Provided you have the shapes Fishtales mentioned, all should be good.

If wishing to use the character with V4, that is a little different. Since V4 is a Poser Format figure (designed to work natively in both DAZ Studio and Poser), you must load a copy of Victoria 4 into your scene first. With V4 selected in your scene, you must locate the Harleigh character under Poser Formats, and you will see two inject files under Morphs - one for the head and one for the body. Clicking these in turn should apply the character shape to V4. Then you must apply the character's textures, with options selected from under the Poser and DS category. Its a little more complicated than a one click solution, but the good news is you can save it all as a character preset and reuse it later with V4 just as you can with Genesis.

For comparison, here are a couple of 3Delight renders to show what you should expect, with V4 on the left, Genesis on the right. (click the thumbnails for a larger version).

I also added a render (third one) showing what happens with Genesis without the V4 shapes for Genesis (I have them, so I dialed the V4 shape to zero for comparison). The character is clearly much different in this case, and there are some obvious problems with the breasts.

As a recent user of Daz Studio, I have primarily been loading Gen 3 characters.  Today I tried to load Ly Harleigh but I got an oddly shaped character (no breasts/flat breasts, face wasn't exactly right).  I did apply the character's shaping options and tried the regular shaping sliders and nothing helped.  I also got this error message:  some assets needed to load the file were missing/victoria 4.  I do have the Victoria 4.2 base.

I don't know if I'm missing a needed product, or I'm using the wrong process for loading an older character.  I think it may be the latter, and note that I also tried loading genesis and victoria first, then applying this character.  

Thanks for any help or insights you might have.

Victoria 8 in the Luxury Car - https://www.daz3d.com/luxury-car-1950

  

Love the expression of the character in the various images you posted. And I really like the effect you are getting with this workflow. Especially liking the hair...

One hopeful sign is Victoria 8 did not have custom UV mapping so maybe DAZ has decided to drop that except for extreme character shapes.

Stupidly simple question, sorry, googled a bunch but couldn't make out whether

https://www.daz3d.com/fwsa-cadence-hd-for-victoria-7

Because it does work with Victoria 7, right? But what about models with heads and bodies "uniquely custom sculpted in Zbrush" like for example "FWSA Cadence HD".

I load the boots and fit them to Victoria 5, then with Victoria 5 selected I go to the Pose subfolder of the Onyx files and apply the Foot pose - the feet then fit into the boots.

Thanks for all the help I appreciate it. 

I tried that, and indeed the feet snap into the boots, so that's a huge help, but the problem now is that I still can't bend the boots, and there doesn't seem to be the opposite function- ie to snap the boots to the feet, so anything but static poses are all but useless with these boots. Am I missing something or is this a problem with the product? 

Hiyas, I was asked for this girl on facebook so thought I'd share her recipe here (wow, just found out we can attach zips here haha!)
Download attached shape preset file in zip at the bottom.  
It uses...

• 70% Victoria 8 head - https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-8
• 50% Fane character head - https://www.daz3d.com/fane-hair-and-character-for-genesis-8-female-s
• A bunch of head morphs from - https://www.daz3d.com/genesis-8-female-head-morphs
• Skin P3D Brita for G3 - https://www.daz3d.com/p3d-brita-for-tween-julie-7

If you don't have all of the above you can get a different look :)  

Funnily enough, these were my temporary promos uploaded before V8 was complete.  I redid them all using V8 and submitted these to Daz but it looks like Daz didn't get around to replacing them, so my Perrin promo girl went out.  I like her, I'll be using her again in another promo, so if you happen to have the products above I hope you get to play with Perrin too! :) 

On some occasions my Smart Content downloads will not start, so I dealt with that by "kickstarting" it - I clicked on a random product and updated the meta data. However this is now not working either, I have internet connection and am having no issues with it.

The other issue is that some products will not update. I have had the Jester Outfit since it came out and it will not update or if it has it still stays in the list - this is months now, however, it seems to work alright in renders. This has happened before and I have uninstalled them and reinstalled them, then upgraded to no avail. Then one day they are gone from the list and installed properly - very frustating.

Now the install of Victoria 8 is failing each time I try it.

Does anyone have any ideas?

Victoria 8...

This is a really nice treatment! Very impressed that there doesn't seem to be a lot of distortion on the fabric patter (something that makes me dread the use of conforming clothing). Did you clean it up, or was that just the result of a quality product? I really like the simplicity of the hair and the clean lines you got. Also... this is the first use of Victoria 8 that I've seen that makes me think the new facial expressions capabilities might be worth exploring. GREAT JOB!

Rebekah - https://www.daz3d.com/fw-rebekah-hd-for-victoria-8

rendered in iray and then applied in postwork: Topaz Simplify, Topaz Clean and two different Filter Forge 6 filters.

 

Very nicely done. I really like both treatments. I do see some of the typical problems I have with Topaz effects, though, which are specifically the uneven lines dropping out where her arms cross (in this case, the way the line tapers to a point actually looks good, though) and overly thick lines where the hair is in front of the arm. In fact, the bottom lines on the forearm look VERY heavy when compared to the light strokes of the rest of the image. Neverheless, this is a fun pose and a nice effect. Nicely done.

i am looking for this hair on victoria 4 

I load the boots and fit them to Victoria 5, then with Victoria 5 selected I go to the Pose subfolder of the Onyx files and apply the Foot pose - the feet then fit into the boots.