People are being so nice to me in this thread!  Thanks, you guys.  <3

Gemling is by me and Fuseling, too. :D  And so is Body Studs.  The G2 period was a great time for high concept, low coverage fantasy and sci fi outfits.  Rigging was easier than with Victoria 4 and fitting was easier than with Genesis (and indeed, easier than it would be with G3/G8 after the switch to dual quaternion rigging).  Daz was taking, and people were buying.  Clothes were faster to make than they had ever been before or ever would be again.  So it was a special time when we had that leeway to bring the weirdness.

@MarcosG A morph is a different shape of the original (base) prop or figure. It has exact the same count of vertices but these are "pushed" to another place in 3d space. For example: every character is a morph of the Genesis Base figure. Victoria 8 is a morph of the G8F Base. Every slider in the Shaping tab uses morphs for dialing in different values of the morph.

You can make your own morphs of anything: save the thing in base resolution as an .obj and bring it into the modeling software you like, there you can change the shape, but don't change the count of vertices, save again as .obj and bring it back to Daz via Morph Loader Pro. This action will create a new slider for the thing and you can dial in the shape you created in the other software... there are lots of tutorials.

Well... I saved Victoria 8.1's stuff as "Shaders" in my own Content Library.

When I've accidentally double clicked without CTRL, they apply onto Genesis 3 Female without grumping at me... but the Neck/Head for 8.1 has no real equivalent for G3F (because the UV is different, as noted above), so that's an issue unless you figure out how to transfer and remap them. (Someone could write a script once they figure all that out, but that someone would not be me.)

When I am testing clothes, characters, hair, shoes, Genesis 3F, Genesis 3M, Genesis 8F and Genesis 8M, I have all those characters shapes in the shaping tab, which makes it difficult to test.

All I want to see in the shaping tab are, for example, Victoria 8, Darcy 8, The Girl 8... but with all the other character shapes in the shaping tab, it makes it very difficult.

I have all the above and of course more in a * tester * folder so that they do not get mixed up.

When I am testing I unhook all other libraries that I usually use and have only the * tester * folder hooked to Daz studio.

My question is, can I unhook the Daz connect folder?

If it was not sometimes needed I would get rid of the smart content, but when I did that in the past some characters did not work as they should, like materials, lip textures...

So, can I unhook the Daz connect folder, and, could I hook it back up to Daz studio again once I finished testing?

Can someone please explain to me why this distortion on the head happens every time I use one of RiverSoft's character converters? It doesn't matter what figure I use or what generation. I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling the scripts through DIM. It happens whether I press "Convert Items" or "Force Convert Items". I need a converted Victoria 7 for something I'm working on, and this is very frustrating. I'm not new to DAZ Studio, but I can't imagine what I'm doing wrong.

You need to run the /Runtime/Libraries/!DAZ/DzExPCreateFiles-v4.bat file, or install the Power Loader files for Victoria 4 (and, ideally, for the morph expansions).

Any chance there's a converter for props for Victoria 4 to genesis 8 as the only thing close RSSY v4 to genesis 8 clothing converter states it doesn't convert props?

I'm trying to solve hopefully an easy issue. I made a geograft for G8F. It simply replaces the breasts so there's more mesh to work with to create interaction. (Pic 1)

Then when I apply a figure morph like Victoria, or any other. It distorts a little bit.(Pic 2). So I create a custom morph for it to smooth out (pic 3). 

Now, here's the problem. If I apply any breasts morphs it distorts and I need to make a new morph to smooth it out again. Which is fine. The most annoying thing is if I change the pose or anything like that, it distorts the graft again (Pic 4). Is there a way to stop the graft from doing this without exporting it and sculpting a new shape every single pose.  

hi guys, just to put it out there. In case you guys hast notice.

I work a lot with power pose because you can  move the whole spine of the body, or the neck, in a uniform and natural way, using the dots with lines (like a sun)

It was one of the features I was very excited about genesis 8.   The articulation points in the power pose. in body and in the face.

Now with the presentation of genesis 8.1 everything looks amazing.  Except for Power pose.   It is the same as genesis 3. with a lot less articulation points. here is a comparation.

Victoria 8( 33ponts of movement on body, and 18 on face)  

 Victoria 8.1 (22 movement points of body and 6 on face)

As you can see, there is a much better range of movement on the previous model with power pose.

My question is, why going back to basics if we had something better?  Don’t the new products are supposed to be better? Not taking useful features out?

why do you guys think?   Do you use power pose? are you equally frustrated with this as me?  Let me know what you think. I also attach some images.

Please find attached a little script to transfer a pose from Victoria 5/G1F to V4. This was asked for by HBalckl over on Rendo. Like my other scripts, you need G1F with the pose, and then V4 to transfer the pose to. You need to select V4's hip and G1F's hip to identify the correct figure, then press the 'Accept' button, and the script will try to transfer the pose as accurately as possible.

The pose transfer will not be perfect, but probably not too bad due to the similarity of the zero poses.

Below I show a number of images. The first is V4 showing the similarity of poses after the zero pose transfer, the second shows a G1 base pose applied to V5 while V4 is in her zero pose, and transferred to V4 in the third. Hope the script is of some use to someone.

Character: G1F is Victoria 5. .V4 is... I forget.

Regards,

Richard.

Does anyone recognize the application Dreamlight is using with his recent asset? Looks like Luminar AI but not sure.

https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-81-glamor-rendering-secrets--video-tutorial

https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-81-glamor-rendering-secrets--video-tutorial is missing its readme.

Aeon Soul said:

SHN said:

The poses for the series don't seem to work with the Everyday 2 clothes. I can get the figures into poses, but the options I have for the wardrobe that came with the products don't seem to match (or tend to distort significantly. I have Playful Everyday Vol 1 and 2, Zero one Everyday + Custom Vol 1 and 2 for it, and what looks like 5 other standalones (all Everyday 2). Any suggestions on the fix as it seems to be an issue I'm having on all these products and only with this series. 

Hi there,
Playful includes a walkthrough on how to use the product, would you be able to reference it and let me know where the problems start?
Also a screenshot would help immensely figure out what could be going wrong.

Sure. So I can access the poses for the shirts and pants (pants seem to have the least issues for me), When I apply the poses for the shirts to match the pose for the character, there tends to be a bit of distortion and clipping (esp on the arms). I think it could be due to the fact that the characters I am trying it on tend to be genesis 8.1 and not 8 (so not the supported figures (?)). And example is the undress over the head pose. everything works except major clipping. The characters I've done it with are MR lana, cleopatra, and Victoria (all 8.1). Outside of those issues with that, everything about your items/poses have been amazing to work with.

Okay... quick & simple Kalea 8.1 test (LULZ).
Morph is 55% Kalea 7 (via morph transfer trickery) and 45% Kiko 8.1, with a few nose/eye dial spins per my preference.

Skin... Kalea for 8.1 skin from the new Genesis 8 Starter Essentials, plus Kalea 7 makeup via the Genesis 3 Character UVs for G8F, converted to the new PBR shader using Victoria 8.1 settings & Detail maps... plus several tweaks to the Dual Lobe Specular channel, (simplistic) custom SSS maps based on the Diffuse textures, and eyes from Jacqueline 8.1.

Simple.

(Do a couple conversions to the new PBR shader, and it's pretty simple to replicate.)

As I had started, I thought I would finish. Available here: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/502771/victoria-5-g1f-to-g8f-pose-transfer-script

Regards,

Richard.

Please find attached a little script to transfer a pose from Victoria 5/G1F to G8F. Like my other scripts, you need G1F with the pose, and then G8F to transfer the pose to. You need to select G8F's hip and G1F's hip to identify the correct figure, then press the 'Accept' button, and the script will try to transfer the pose as accurately as possible.

The pose transfer will not be perfect, but probably not a lot worse than applying a G8F base pose to a character.

Below I show a number of images. The first is G8F showing the similarity of poses after the zero pose transfer, the second shows a G1 base pose applied to V5 while G8F is in her zero pose, and transferred to G8F in the third. Hope the script is of some use to someone.

One thing that surprised me is the way on the shins how a 90 degree bend on G1F needs a 94 degree bend on G8F, and a 4 degree reverse bend on the foot to get the global angle of the sole the same. Took a little time to get my head around that. As usual, the G8F +ve direction for the eyes up-down and side-side is the opposite of the earlier character, all catered for in the transfer.

Characters: G1F is Victoria 5. G8F is MostDigitaCreations 'ACJenny for G3F and G8F' applied to G8F.

Regards,

Richard.

Ha, pretty cool. I have mixed feelings about Amazon being a giant, but they do provide convenient ways to publish to a bigger audience without the need for major mainstream publishers.

Okays... one more of my experiments with V7, converted to PBR shader using V8.1 settings & Detail maps. (Plus custom SSS maps, and tweaks to the specularity settings.)

(Also, definitely a few dial spins from Victoria 7, although her shape is in there.)

AbyssalEros said:

Thanks for nothing. Good that I did not download that update.

It's not nothing. Remember those characters had custom UV maps...and I hated that about them. Just like Victoria 7. If they're anything like Victoria 7's skin that was converted to G8, then the skins should now use the base UV...which is a wonderful thing. Making my skin mashups will be oh so much easier.  

I have noticed that when I load a G8F and then apply the materials, they do not load onto the torso. Or is this only for 8.1? *edit* Yup, it is. 

This was in PC+ for the Day a few days back: https://www.daz3d.com/laguna-naoko-hair-for-genesis-3-female-s-genesis-2-female-s-and-victoria-4

Anyone know of a free or paid converter for genesis and Victoria 5 poses and props to genesis 8?