Daz Studio | M1 Mac System Running Windows Through Parallels Desktop | AppStartup Consistent Crashes

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• Richard Haseltine Posts: 111,173

  August 12

  Which products are not appearing on the Mac? Have you check that the Downlod Filters in DIM match between the two systems? Are the Mac security settings getting in the way?

  When DS crashes do you get any kind of report? Crashing the whole OS does sound like a driver-related issue.
• Steve_S Posts: 17

  August 13

  Thanks for your response, Richard. Greatly appreciated.

  Regarding crash reports. I don't know where to access crash reports, assuming they're generated even though the entire VM system crashed.

  Regarding DAZ3DIM Download filters, both systems have identical settings.

  Regarding your question: Are the Mac security settings getting in the way?
  If that was the case, why would only arbitrary items be affected?
  Of the over 5,000 items installed on each system, only a minuscule number are affected by this issue.
  
  Regarding some of the Daz Store items that I purchased & installed that are present on my Windows 11 Pro system but absent on my Mac system:
  One of the files attached to this comment is a screen capture of my Windows 11 Pro Daz Studio Panes contents, highlighting the items installed that do not appear on my Mac system.
  This is just one part of my issue concerning missing items. There are some missing figures. In all cases, the DAZ3DIM app shows all items installed.
  One recently purchased figure is Octopia for Genesis 9.
  It is not present on either of my systems despite its listing (as installed) on both DAZ3DIM apps.

  

  

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• Richard Haseltine Posts: 111,173

  August 13

  Moving this to Daz Studio Discussion, it isn't a Daz AI Studio topic.

  Panes are produced by plug-ins, which are execulatble code and require higher permission settings than plain content. The ones you have on the Mac install as part of the base application, the others get added afterwards. I would say this is certainly an issue of permissions, whether with Gatekeeper or another feature. See the Mac FAQ thread for various posts onm these issues. https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/731016/the-new-mac-faq#latest
• Steve_S Posts: 17

  August 14

  Thank you for the link to the Mac FAQ thread, Richard. I will look into this further.
• StratDragon Posts: 3,287

  August 15 edited August 15

  M1 mac is going to require a lot of overhead to get windows 11 running, it's emulating and converting code. Intel Macs had the advantage of running windows variants natively with x64 cpus. ARM processers are different. Even if you're not using your mac, it's using resources to keep the vm software running and maintaining a lot of heavy lifting to do minor things. It's possible the anti-virus API built into mac; Xprotect is picking up something it doesn't like, or Xprotect is fighting against Windows Defender; two AV's running at the same time, sandboxed or not can cause incompatibility. you can disable xprotect (and defender) but I do not recommend it and you will need to do your own research, I won't assist anyone to try and work around that compromise security. You can also look at apple gatekeeper as a culprit. I wrote an user article on the mac user support site on that thing, damned if I can find it. Having an Intel Mac, and M1 mac and a Windows build I will always default to the windows before I vm or bootcamp on a mac, and I only bootcamp for lab tests. This is probably not what you want to hear but this is my $0.02 on working with Macs and Windows and virtualizing. ARM is really good for virtualizing Linux distros built for ARM, but Apples switch to ARM really handicapped windows flexibility.

  windows error logs are in  the event viewer (Start search box, start typing "event viewer"), the Mac its in Applications/Utilities/Crash Reporter or something like that. I'm on my PC, procrastinating mowing my lawn in a heatwave. 

  Post edited by StratDragon on August 15
• Steve_S Posts: 17

  August 16

  Thanks for your response, StratDragon.
  
  COMPUTER INFORMATION

  Computer:	Apple M1 Ultra with 20-core CPU, 64-core GPU, 32-core Neural Engine
  Model Name:	M1 Mac Studio
  Chip:	Apple M1 Ultra
  Total Number of Cores:	20 | 16 performance | 4 efficiency
  Memory:	128 GB
  Hard Drive:	8 TB SSD Storage

  
  Overall, I've been running Windows (10 & 11) in various versions of Parallels Desktop on different Mac systems for well over a decade.
  When configured in accordance with the type of applications installed (in my case, a large variety of memory-intensive, system resource-consuming
  software applications), I have found Parallels Desktop to perform consistently well under the most resource-consuming conditions.
  Parallels Desktop operation is quite resilient. I have not found another software application that comes even close to matching its
  consistent reliability, performance, and unwavering ability to co-exist within another operating system while performing its tasks.
  
  In my current situation, I've successfully used this setup (running Windows 11 Pro through Parallels Desktop) on my M1 Mac Studio since 2022.
  I run (not at the same time, of course) dozens of memory-intensive, resource-consuming, graphics-based, and advanced 3D software applications without 
  experiencing any difficulties with installations and/or total VM crashes, all while running my Mac (MacOS Tahoe) additionally.
  Yes, I do occasionally experience system slowdowns (depending on the project), but nothing that causes one software application (at launch) to crash
  and certainly nothing that crashes the VM.
  
  FYI: Windows Defender is not running on the Windows operating system (within Parallels Desktop) installed on my M1 Mac Studio.
  I completely agree with you on attempting to run 2 competing AVs on one computer system. That's a disaster in the making that will never end well.
  
  Thank you for providing directions to the location of error logs. I'm assuming that Daz doesn't file error logs within its own file directory system.
  If so, I will have to figure out which error log file is Daz-specific, since most error log names are alphanumeric, making my search more challenging.
  
  To conclude, my search for answers continues. It's certainly encouraging to have this Daz-specific resource available with knowledgeable individuals who can
  choose to share their valuable time & information. Thank you for your input on this post. Greatly appreciated.