Robin 9 - Discussion Thread

A blast from the past! Robin 9 brings the 80s glam of over-hairsprayed locks and scrunchies. Nice to see a new themed set.

Robin 9
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  • bjoernb78bjoernb78 Posts: 161

    I feel Sadie Sink vibes. Love it!

  • NathNath Posts: 3,018

    She looks nice. I do however resent the implication that the 80s are retro.

  • MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 2,444
    edited June 25

    Write Idea said:

    A blast from the past! Robin 9 brings the 80s glam of over-hairsprayed locks and scrunchies. Nice to see a new themed set.

    Robin 9
    Robin 9 HD Character Bundle
    Robin 9 HD Add-On Bundle

    Discuss!

    Obviously we are getting closer to realistic proportions, which is nice,
    but seriously, when looking at Robin 9 and recent DAZ original base characters, I can't stop wondering, 
    is there some kind of a "flat butt policy" in place?

    EDIT:
    never mind, found it. 
    Adult female shape at an extra cost.
    clever

    Post edited by Masterstroke on
  • Write IdeaWrite Idea Posts: 485

    Nath said:

    I do however resent the implication that the 80s are retro.

    There is a trend on TikTok where someone will ask their coworkers what year they were born. The second someone says anything in the 20th century, the Jurassic Park theme song begins to play...

    *hides 1980s birth year under the rug*

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 41,147

    Masterstroke said:

    Write Idea said:

    A blast from the past! Robin 9 brings the 80s glam of over-hairsprayed locks and scrunchies. Nice to see a new themed set.

    Robin 9
    Robin 9 HD Character Bundle
    Robin 9 HD Add-On Bundle

    Discuss!

    Obviously we are getting closer to realistic proportions, which is nice,
    but seriously, when looking at Robin 9 and recent DAZ original base characters, I can't stop wondering, 
    is there some kind of a "flat butt policy" in place?

    EDIT:
    never mind, found it. 
    Adult female shape at an extra cost.
    clever

    well everyone has their preferences 

    https://youtu.be/X53ZSxkQ3Ho?si=hpUHpx0pDwGeTA8z 

    won't embed video because ..

    just warning some may be offended, not me because I have an ample posterior myself and even when I was 50KG as a teen I did

  • NathNath Posts: 3,018

    Write Idea said:

    Nath said:

    I do however resent the implication that the 80s are retro.

    There is a trend on TikTok where someone will ask their coworkers what year they were born. The second someone says anything in the 20th century, the Jurassic Park theme song begins to play...

    *hides 1980s birth year under the rug*

    1980s? Aww, you're young! 

  • MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 2,444
    edited June 25

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    Masterstroke said:

    Write Idea said:

    A blast from the past! Robin 9 brings the 80s glam of over-hairsprayed locks and scrunchies. Nice to see a new themed set.

    Robin 9
    Robin 9 HD Character Bundle
    Robin 9 HD Add-On Bundle

    Discuss!

    Obviously we are getting closer to realistic proportions, which is nice,
    but seriously, when looking at Robin 9 and recent DAZ original base characters, I can't stop wondering, 
    is there some kind of a "flat butt policy" in place?

    EDIT:
    never mind, found it. 
    Adult female shape at an extra cost.
    clever

    well everyone has their preferences 

    https://youtu.be/X53ZSxkQ3Ho?si=hpUHpx0pDwGeTA8z 

    won't embed video because ..

    just warning some may be offended, not me because I have an ample posterior myself and even when I was 50KG as a teen I did

    To be clear, it is not about someone's preferencies. It is about a recurring pattern on DAZ original female characters.
    Also about a lack of variety. 
    However, never mind. 
    I assume, my post will be deleted anyway. 

    Post edited by Masterstroke on
  • SnowSnow Posts: 95

    bjoernb78 said:

    I feel Sadie Sink vibes. Love it!

    Sophia Lillis Vibes here.

  • 3DScreencraft3DScreencraft Posts: 504
    edited June 25

    Does anyone know what hair was used in the promo image for Robin add-on https://www.daz3d.com/robin-9-mature-shape-add-on ; please? Thanks! Have a lovely day - avoid sweltering where possible! :)  Never mind, found it!

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  • LeanaLeana Posts: 13,398

    Nath said:

    She looks nice. I do however resent the implication that the 80s are retro.

    As a 80s baby it feels weird to see that called "retro" too.

    Robin does look nice. I quite like the New Wave Curls and the Soft Confidence outfit. The other outfits look good too.

  • MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 2,444
    edited June 25

    Leana said:

    Nath said:

    She looks nice. I do however resent the implication that the 80s are retro.

    As a 80s baby it feels weird to see that called "retro" too.

    Robin does look nice. I quite like the New Wave Curls and the Soft Confidence outfit. The other outfits look good too.

    Weird to call it retro, I agree. 
    The 80s have been my teenage times, so I remember them quite well.
    The 2020s and the 1980s have in fact so much in common, and not in a good way. 

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  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 7,830

    She looks quite realistic, old for her years and as if she wouldn't take fools gladly. 

    Nice model, but I don't think the whole vibe is for me. I don't really know why the 1980's is mentioned, the clothing is similar it's not really retro round where I live, it's never gone away. There are a lot of people in my local town who don't look too dissimilar, dressing from wherever is cheap with the look they want from pound shops. They look somewhat worn, weary & ready to bite back with a twofer if they feel they've been bitten. If that's 1980's and considered retro.. no. don't agree. It's 2020's industrial towns with people surviving rather than prospering, quick to snarl and raise hackles. And Robin 9 has that look perfectly.

    Regards,

    Richard

  • garrett_3dgarrett_3d Posts: 587

    Masterstroke said:
    The 2020s and the 1980s have in fact so much in common, and not in a good way. 

    The 1980's were far superior in terms of music, that much I can say. At least lyrics made sense and there was none of the hate that you find in modern music. 

  • I kind of like her as a character.  I'll definitely use her.

    I'm still hoping to get some diversity in the next releases - someone from India, Central America, maybe obvious Eastern European.  Areas Daz is really lacking.

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 5,935

    I was in my 30s during the 80s, but not in the States very much, was in Greece and the UK then. But she reminded me of Debbie Harry, The Go Gos, and The Bangles kind of rolled up into one. Add in the new SuperGirl that is just released for extra spice. But when I think of 1980s fashion, I think of Jane Fonda's thong exercise wear and the TV shows' suits with oversized shoulder pads.

    Did Valley Girls really wear torn-up jeans like that? I thought that was more the 1990s on?

    As for the character, hair, bundles, love the boots, set, love them. Now to find the cash flow. Gift card is gone and 10% off is pathetic.

  • midgard229midgard229 Posts: 94

    Masterstroke said:
    The 2020s and the 1980s have in fact so much in common, and not in a good way. 

    The 1980's were far superior in terms of music, that much I can say. At least lyrics made sense and there was none of the hate that you find in modern music. 

    Ehhh I find this only true in radio music. There is a lot of deep lyrical music out there now a day, Issue is sure, it isn't mainstream or on the radio but it's still popular. As an 80s kid I wasn't really a fan of the music, I didn't start liking music till late 90s to be honest. We all have different experiences though ^_^
  • DareshiranuDareshiranu Posts: 323

    Masterstroke said:

    Write Idea said:

    A blast from the past! Robin 9 brings the 80s glam of over-hairsprayed locks and scrunchies. Nice to see a new themed set.

    Robin 9
    Robin 9 HD Character Bundle
    Robin 9 HD Add-On Bundle

    Discuss!

    Obviously we are getting closer to realistic proportions, which is nice,
    but seriously, when looking at Robin 9 and recent DAZ original base characters, I can't stop wondering, 
    is there some kind of a "flat butt policy" in place?

    EDIT:
    never mind, found it. 
    Adult female shape at an extra cost.
    clever

    I like the flatter look, too many figures have almost laughably exaggerated proportions (see 60 - 80% of the female figures on Renderhub for instance), so some more... moderately proportioned figures keep things, no pun intended, in proportion. That being said, I don't dismiss the more shapely figures out of hand, I like a variety, If I see a good and unique(ish) texture and nice sculpting then I'm drawn to the figure. Again no pun intended. I promise. I also like shorter figures, as not all women are of Amazonian stature.

  • davesodaveso Posts: 8,129
    edited June 25

     The BIG hair days. I like both bundles actually. Thinking of buying the add-on now and the character when my coupon renews. 

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  • WolfwoodWolfwood Posts: 992
    edited June 25

    80's are not retro, the 80's are just THE 80's, no need for extra description cheeky

     

    Now, about the character...meh...nothing bad, nothing wow. The bundes do look nice as i like the 80's but too pricy on the addon, 33% price increase? Only boots and accesories extra, and one outfit does not have shoes.

     

    Now, more than calling 80's retro i resent that 80's is the theme and non of the hairs are from Prae.

    Half joking there, the hairs look nice, is just a personal and completelly subjective preference.

     

    I think i will use my premier coupon on this, too bad on the addon, will have to wait for christmas stacking discounts probably.

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  • kprkpr Posts: 417

    memcneil70 said:

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    Did Valley Girls really wear torn-up jeans like that? I thought that was more the 1990s on?

    ...

    Couldn't tell you what Valley girls were wearing. However, I thought same as you when I saw the jeans in the promo - I wouldn't say they were an 80s fashion statement. I'd say early 90s (all the 90s and still going!). Doc-Martin shoes (and crop tops, inc jumpers) and Levis 501 were very much 80s things...but rips were just a lil later.

    HAIR! definately was an 80s things laugh

  • nemesis10nemesis10 Posts: 3,960

    80's are not retro, the 80's are just THE 80's, no need for extra description

    The 80's were 40 years ago; the musical artists are mainly old enough to get elderly discounts!  It is okay to age.

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,706

    garrett_3d said:

    Masterstroke said:
    The 2020s and the 1980s have in fact so much in common, and not in a good way. 

    The 1980's were far superior in terms of music, that much I can say. At least lyrics made sense and there was none of the hate that you find in modern music. 

    ???  I'll agree that there was generally better music, primarily as the 80's music was a whiplash from the pablum that dominated the 70's, and a lot of the early 80s were about bands experimenting with new directions, technology, and mediums like music videos.  As far as hate goes, though, let's not forget the lyrics of the more hardcore punk and heavy metal acts (think the Sex Pistols and GWAR) that are still pretty shocking, not to mention a certain recently deceased performer that bit the heads off live animals in concert...  That said, I'll agree that there are some genres now that are pretty bad, but the really big difference is that a lot more of the harder stuff gets played over the air these days, as rampant piracy has driven the music business' focus to transition from being about physical sales towards using streaming/radio as a marketing tool to make money from licensing and concerts.     

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,706

    As for the character... she's nice and a bit of a change in that she's youngish and attrractive without being too conventionally pretty.  And yes, I definitely see the Sophia Lillis comparison that some have already mentioned.  More than that, though, I just appreciate that all of the items in both bundles fit the 80's themes without going over the top, with clothing that is both in-the-period yet still works as normal everyday wear for the 21st century.  Really, the only thing that feels dated in the whle thing is the huge arcade section of the "mall" set, but as most of the malls that are still around were built in the 80s or earlier, just popping those machines out makes it feel reasonably current.

  • Write IdeaWrite Idea Posts: 485
    edited June 26

    kpr said:

    memcneil70 said:

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    Did Valley Girls really wear torn-up jeans like that? I thought that was more the 1990s on?

    ...

    Couldn't tell you what Valley girls were wearing. However, I thought same as you when I saw the jeans in the promo - I wouldn't say they were an 80s fashion statement. I'd say early 90s (all the 90s and still going!). Doc-Martin shoes (and crop tops, inc jumpers) and Levis 501 were very much 80s things...but rips were just a lil later.

    HAIR! definately was an 80s things laugh

    When I think of torn jeans, I really think of punk music in the late 70s/80s. I don't think they became a mainstay in American fashion until the 90s. 

    The dForce Soft Confidence for Genesis 9 is clearly inspired by Molly Ringwald's character from The Breakfast Club—a generational defining film.

     

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  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,735

    Anyone who thinks that music was better in any given period of time need to answer the question of WHICH music. There is always something exciting and new happening in music, you just have to know where to look, and you also have to account for taste and preference. As one example, if you hate disco, you might have thought 70s music was bad, but if you like prog rock, the 70s were amazing. There's also what I've heard called the Sieve of Time: the music that you remember from bygone eras is the music that stood up over time and gained a foothold in the popular consciousness. Think of 1969 in music: Led Zeppelin's first two albums, the Who's Tommy, the Beatles' Abbey Road, Hendrix's Electric Ladyland, King Crimson's genre-defining debut In the Court of the Crimson King, the debut albums by proto-punk bands MC5 and the Stooges, Sly and the Family Stone's Stand!, and a lot of other incredibly important albums came out, to say nothing of the Woodstock festival. What was one of the biggest singles of the year? Sugar Sugar by the Archies, a bit of novelty fluff by a fictional band based on Archie Comics. How many people remember that song versus, say, Get Back, or Everyday People, or Whole Lotta Love?

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,475
    edited June 25

    Gordig said:

    Anyone who thinks that music was better in any given period of time need to answer the question of WHICH music. There is always something exciting and new happening in music, you just have to know where to look, and you also have to account for taste and preference. As one example, if you hate disco, you might have thought 70s music was bad, but if you like prog rock, the 70s were amazing. There's also what I've heard called the Sieve of Time: the music that you remember from bygone eras is the music that stood up over time and gained a foothold in the popular consciousness. Think of 1969 in music: Led Zeppelin's first two albums, the Who's Tommy, the Beatles' Abbey Road, Hendrix's Electric Ladyland, King Crimson's genre-defining debut In the Court of the Crimson King, the debut albums by proto-punk bands MC5 and the Stooges, Sly and the Family Stone's Stand!, and a lot of other incredibly important albums came out, to say nothing of the Woodstock festival. What was one of the biggest singles of the year? Sugar Sugar by the Archies, a bit of novelty fluff by a fictional band based on Archie Comics. How many people remember that song versus, say, Get Back, or Everyday People, or Whole Lotta Love?

    Thanks, Gordig! I remember them all; however, I've only listened to the latter three regularly. But I have Sugar in my brain to the point where I wouldn't want to listen to it, though I thought it was so cute as a child.

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  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,706
    edited June 26

    kpr said:

    memcneil70 said:

    ...

    Did Valley Girls really wear torn-up jeans like that? I thought that was more the 1990s on?

    ...

    Couldn't tell you what Valley girls were wearing. However, I thought same as you when I saw the jeans in the promo - I wouldn't say they were an 80s fashion statement. I'd say early 90s (all the 90s and still going!). 

    Nope.  The distressed jean trend actually began in the late 70s in the U.S., with the legendary Ramones being one of the best known band of kneeless denim wearers. (See the attached photo below from the 1979 release of ROCK AND ROLL HIGH SCHOOL, with not one but four ripped knees clearly visible even with Marky's legs completely obscured by his drums. :) )

    By the start of the 80's torn jeans had already become a standard fashion look for male and female performers for not just what would become Punk and New Wave, but also Glam Rock and many Heavy Metal bands, and it wasn't uncommon to see fans of both sexes at clubs dressed in the same. Seeing a trend, Guess? became the first company to start selling pre-faded/distressed jeans in 1981, but they were still a niche/club item until the BIG breakout moment where rips went from clubwear to "mainstream fashion that you saw everywhere" with the release of the movie Flashdance in 1983, where Jennifer Beals wore an iconic pair of kneeless jeans whenever she wasn't boosting the early 80's other major female fashion phenomenon of leotards and leg warmers.  Now, I can't tell you how long it might have taken for the trend to get big at any given place, but it's samfe to say that istressed clothing became even more popular with Madonna's starring turn in in Desperately Seaeking Susan in 1986.  You're not completely wrong about the 90s, though, as what happened then was that the grunge look broadened the appeal even further to encompass a wider and older base, especially when coupled with t-shirts and flannels.  Indeed, I will admit that some of us adopted that look then and have never left it since.   :)  

     

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  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,706
    edited June 26

    Gordig said:

    What was one of the biggest singles of the year? Sugar Sugar by the Archies, a bit of novelty fluff by a fictional band based on Archie Comics. How many people remember that song versus, say, Get Back, or Everyday People, or Whole Lotta Love?

    Probably just as many, to be honest, as it's still an extremely popular song that gets constant airplay and multiple covers, while the original animated series continues to be rebroadcast to this day.  The really ironic thing, though, is that the song was originally written for the Monkees, who turned it down during an argument over creative control, causing producer Don Kirschner to offer it to Filmation when he left the Monkee's TV series to handle The Archies, a show that was being deliberately patterned after the Monkees. I mean, can't you just hear the same tune being sung by Davy Jones or, better yet, Mickey Dolenz.    

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  • edited June 25

    Cybersox said:

    kpr said:

    memcneil70 said:

    ...

    Did Valley Girls really wear torn-up jeans like that? I thought that was more the 1990s on?

    ...

    Couldn't tell you what Valley girls were wearing. However, I thought same as you when I saw the jeans in the promo - I wouldn't say they were an 80s fashion statement. I'd say early 90s (all the 90s and still going!). 

    Nope.  The distressed jean trend actually began in the late 70s in the U.S., with the legendary Ramones being one of the best known band of kneeless denim wearers. (See the attached photo below from the 1979 release of ROCK AND ROLL HIGH SCHOOL, with not one but four ripped knees clearly visible even with Marky's legs completely obscured by his drums. :) )

    By the start of the 80's torn jeans had already become a standard fashion look for male and female performers for not just what would become Punk and New Wave, but also Glam Rock and many Heavy Metal bands, and it wasn't uncommon to see fans of both sexes at clubs dressed in the same. Seeing a trend, Guess? became the first company to start selling pre-faded/distressed jeans in 1981, but they were still a niche/club item until the BIG breakout moment where rips went from clubwear to "mainstream fashion that you saw everywhere" with the release of the movie Flashdance in 1983, where Jennifer Beals wore an iconic pair of kneeless jeans whenever she wasn't boosting the early 80's other major female fashion phenomenon of leotards and leg warmers.  Now, I can't tell you how long it might have taken for the trend to get big at any given place, but it's samfe to say that istressed clothing became even more popular with Madonna's starring turn in in Desperately Seaeking Susan in 1986.  You're not completely wrong about the 90s, though, as what happened then was that the grunge look broadened the appeal even further to encompass a wider and older base, especially when coupled with t-shirts and flannels.  Indeed, I will admit that some of us adopted that look then and have never left it since.   :)  

    Teenagers wearing ripped and torn jeans as streetware was around back in the early '70's. It was fashionable for us to wear the same couple of pairs of jeans over and over, until they were extensively wearing out. It was a badge of honor to have jeans that were legitimately (not deliberately cut) worn out from wear and use.  It became a big enough issue that school districts started banning holed jeans because they were considered...'provocative' in the classroom with schoolgirls wearing them (in certain places). We used colorful or military patches to cover the holes until the jeans would literally be falling apart. It was only considered legitimate if we sewed the patches on ourselves.

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  • brainmuffinbrainmuffin Posts: 1,319

    Nath said:

    She looks nice. I do however resent the implication that the 80s are retro.

    They were, like, totally 40 years ago. Like gag.

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