Robin 9 - Discussion Thread

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  • paulawp (marahzen)paulawp (marahzen) Posts: 1,775
    edited June 26

    brainmuffin said:

    Nath said:

    She looks nice. I do however resent the implication that the 80s are retro.

    They were, like, totally 40 years ago. Like gag.

    omigod, as if. [pouty sigh with eyes rolling skyward] like, soooooo grody. 

    ETA: Seriously, I am getting both bundles. I do have an old story, written back in the actual 1980s, which maybe one of these days I'll do some art for.

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 41,153

    what rock did you all live under?

    I wore my distressed stone washed Levi jeans with the knees shredded  in the late 70's

  • jmucchiellojmucchiello Posts: 1,674
    edited June 26

    All I remember of high school in 1984/5 is neon clothing and a thousand round rubber bracelets.

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  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 7,835
    Punk.. 1990's?!? 1977 was when it became big news here. A real moral panic over all the ripped jeans, jackets & shirts. And all the zips. And glued hair spikes. One punk got sacked from Westlands Helicopters in Yeovil because of concern his hair was a damage risk to the airframe during manufacture. The 1980's were when ripped jeans started to occur in clean jeans, not just ones dirty enough to stand up on their own. Regards, Richard.
  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,706

    davidwski_16294691f0 said:

    Teenagers wearing ripped and torn jeans as streetware was around back in the early '70's. It was fashionable for us to wear the same couple of pairs of jeans over and over, until they were extensively wearing out. It was a badge of honor to have jeans that were legitimately (not deliberately cut) worn out from wear and use.  It became a big enough issue that school districts started banning holed jeans because they were considered...'provocative' in the classroom with schoolgirls wearing them (in certain places). We used colorful or military patches to cover the holes until the jeans would literally be falling apart. It was only considered legitimate if we sewed the patches on ourselves.

    True enough, though what I mainly remember being banned jeans-wise in the mid-70's were those low cut hip-hugger jeans that failed to adequately cover two of what the teachers on clothing patrol referred to  as the "3 B's" (for breasts, butt and belly-button.)  Actually had a comple of pairs of jeans with the patches in Junior High, but they were pretty much out by the time I hit High School at the mid-decade mark.  And yes, the thing in those days was all about the jeans being faded and worn "naturally" as opposed to putting them in the washer with extra bleach and then going over them with a bit of sandpaper and/or a razor... and if you did it, you certainly didn't admit it. :)  By the 80s that was all flipped on it's head and jeans were being sold brand new washed in acid and ground against stone.  

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 41,153

    yes, I did indeed fray them myself 

  • James_HJames_H Posts: 1,110

    Gordig said:

    Anyone who thinks that music was better in any given period of time need to answer the question of WHICH music. There is always something exciting and new happening in music, you just have to know where to look, and you also have to account for taste and preference. As one example, if you hate disco, you might have thought 70s music was bad, but if you like prog rock, the 70s were amazing. There's also what I've heard called the Sieve of Time: the music that you remember from bygone eras is the music that stood up over time and gained a foothold in the popular consciousness. Think of 1969 in music: Led Zeppelin's first two albums, the Who's Tommy, the Beatles' Abbey Road, Hendrix's Electric Ladyland, King Crimson's genre-defining debut In the Court of the Crimson King, the debut albums by proto-punk bands MC5 and the Stooges, Sly and the Family Stone's Stand!, and a lot of other incredibly important albums came out, to say nothing of the Woodstock festival. What was one of the biggest singles of the year? Sugar Sugar by the Archies, a bit of novelty fluff by a fictional band based on Archie Comics. How many people remember that song versus, say, Get Back, or Everyday People, or Whole Lotta Love?

    Alas I remember The Archies. A shout out for Van der Graaf Generator (my first LP).

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,740

    Cybersox said:

    I mean, can't you just hear the same tune being sung by Davy Jones or, better yet, Mickey Dolenz.    

    I actually can't. I don't have an encyclopedic knowledge of Monkees songs, but the worst one I've heard is still head and shoulders above Sugar Sugar. 

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 41,153
    edited June 26

    I played my Monkees LP to death

    I liked watching the Archies but never cared for the music

    The Banana Splits were hands down the best theme song wise

    and generally good https://www.youtube.com/@bananasplitssoundtrack2710

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  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,706

    richardandtracy said:

    Punk.. 1990's?!? 1977 was when it became big news here. A real moral panic over all the ripped jeans, jackets & shirts. And all the zips. And glued hair spikes. One punk got sacked from Westlands Helicopters in Yeovil because of concern his hair was a damage risk to the airframe during manufacture. The 1980's were when ripped jeans started to occur in clean jeans, not just ones dirty enough to stand up on their own. Regards, Richard.

    Yup, but that's in the U.K. and I think most of us in this thread are in the States (corect me if I'm wrong.)  What's properly considered the punk scene nominally began in the U.S. in the mid to late 70s with groups like the Ramones, the New York Dolls, and Patti Smith, but before that there were forerunners in groups like The Stooges (led by Iggy Pop) and MC5, but in the U.S. it was all relatively niche and limited to smaller labels and a base of fans that were mainly concentrated in a few major cities. Ironicially, the one band that broke biggest of the early groups was one that really didn't end up being very punk for long at at all, Blondie, which while frequently claiming to be punk segued progressively into a more mainstream sound with each album until breaking into mainstream superstardom on album 3, Parrallel Lines and the single Heart of Glass in 1978. By that time, though, as you note, true Punk (as well as what would become New Wave) was breaking big in the UK with bands like the highly influential Sex Pistols and the more commercially sucessful The Clash.               

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,706

    James_H said:

    Gordig said:

    Anyone who thinks that music was better in any given period of time need to answer the question of WHICH music. There is always something exciting and new happening in music, you just have to know where to look, and you also have to account for taste and preference. As one example, if you hate disco, you might have thought 70s music was bad, but if you like prog rock, the 70s were amazing. There's also what I've heard called the Sieve of Time: the music that you remember from bygone eras is the music that stood up over time and gained a foothold in the popular consciousness. Think of 1969 in music: Led Zeppelin's first two albums, the Who's Tommy, the Beatles' Abbey Road, Hendrix's Electric Ladyland, King Crimson's genre-defining debut In the Court of the Crimson King, the debut albums by proto-punk bands MC5 and the Stooges, Sly and the Family Stone's Stand!, and a lot of other incredibly important albums came out, to say nothing of the Woodstock festival. What was one of the biggest singles of the year? Sugar Sugar by the Archies, a bit of novelty fluff by a fictional band based on Archie Comics. How many people remember that song versus, say, Get Back, or Everyday People, or Whole Lotta Love?

    Alas I remember The Archies. A shout out for Van der Graaf Generator (my first LP).

    My brother had an Archies record that included Sugar Sugar and was printed on the back of a cereal box and they also did a prime time "concert" that year.  They were everywhere that year...  

  • ANGELREAPER1972ANGELREAPER1972 Posts: 4,750

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    I played my Monkees LP to death

    I liked watching the Archies but never cared for the music

    The Banana Splits were hands down the best theme song wise

    and generally good https://www.youtube.com/@bananasplitssoundtrack2710

    I was born in 72 so Primary and High School in the 80s was an interesting time then still fan was and still am metal and heavy/glam rock and still dress the same jeans, tracksuits, remember denim and the jackets with the band patches, t shirts still wear too oh and the cartoons looney tunes, transformers, he-man extra, the movies/tv oh on abc british comedy, the goodies, monkey, doctor who, peter russel clarke's cooking show, aerobics oz style on the oppiste end I should be so lucky kylie minouge crew, elle the body mcpherson, did hey hey it's saturday start then? fast forfawd, full frontal, the comedy company,, kingswood country, the hair styles still into all this

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,706

    Gordig said:

    Cybersox said:

    I mean, can't you just hear the same tune being sung by Davy Jones or, better yet, Mickey Dolenz.    

    I actually can't. I don't have an encyclopedic knowledge of Monkees songs, but the worst one I've heard is still head and shoulders above Sugar Sugar. 

    Not much too know, really, as while all four members of the Pre-Fab Four were supposed to do lead vocals, ultimately most of their songs featured either Davy Jones or Mickey Dolenz as the lead vocalist   Jones had one big hit that still gets airplay, Daydream Believer, and was being pushed heavily as a Teeny-bopper idol by the studio, but Dolenz quickly became the iconic voice of the group, knocking out a steady stream of chart-toppers including Pleasant Valley Sunday, Last Train To Clarksville (actually a war protest song about getting drafted), Valleri, the angry and aggressive (I'm Not Your) Steppin' Stone, and their biggest smash, I'm A Believer, which spent 7 weeks at number one in the U.S. and .  Hence, it's pretty obvious that Sugar-Sugar was probably intended for the soft-voiced Jones, while it would have probably become much more of a rocker with Dolenz at the helm.  In an ironic twist, both John Lennon and Paul McCartney actually were fans of the Monkees, and Dolenz sat in on the recording of the legendary "A Day In The Life" as a guest of McCartney's.       

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,706

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    I played my Monkees LP to death

    I liked watching the Archies but never cared for the music

    The Banana Splits were hands down the best theme song wise

    and generally good https://www.youtube.com/@bananasplitssoundtrack2710

    As far as theme songs go, I'd agree that the Splits had the best of the three.  Not the best TV theme of all time, but definitely an addictive jingle.  Interestingly, the Banana Splits themselves were actually made by Sid and Marty Kroft, who felt so ripped off by the pittance they were paid for the job that they decided to make their own competing shows instead.       

  • butterflyfishbutterflyfish Posts: 1,684

    Cybersox said:

    Gordig said:

    Cybersox said:

    I mean, can't you just hear the same tune being sung by Davy Jones or, better yet, Mickey Dolenz.    

    I actually can't. I don't have an encyclopedic knowledge of Monkees songs, but the worst one I've heard is still head and shoulders above Sugar Sugar. 

    Not much too know, really, as while all four members of the Pre-Fab Four were supposed to do lead vocals, ultimately most of their songs featured either Davy Jones or Mickey Dolenz as the lead vocalist   Jones had one big hit that still gets airplay, Daydream Believer, and was being pushed heavily as a Teeny-bopper idol by the studio, but Dolenz quickly became the iconic voice of the group, knocking out a steady stream of chart-toppers including Pleasant Valley Sunday, Last Train To Clarksville (actually a war protest song about getting drafted), Valleri, the angry and aggressive (I'm Not Your) Steppin' Stone, and their biggest smash, I'm A Believer, which spent 7 weeks at number one in the U.S. and .  Hence, it's pretty obvious that Sugar-Sugar was probably intended for the soft-voiced Jones, while it would have probably become much more of a rocker with Dolenz at the helm.  In an ironic twist, both John Lennon and Paul McCartney actually were fans of the Monkees, and Dolenz sat in on the recording of the legendary "A Day In The Life" as a guest of McCartney's.       

    I'm pretty sure Davy sang Valleri.  

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,740

    Last Train to Clarksville is SO good.

    butterflyfish said:

    I'm pretty sure Davy sang Valleri.  

    Wikipedia says you're correct.

  • Peter WadePeter Wade Posts: 1,695

    James_H said:

    Gordig said:

    Anyone who thinks that music was better in any given period of time need to answer the question of WHICH music. There is always something exciting and new happening in music, you just have to know where to look, and you also have to account for taste and preference. As one example, if you hate disco, you might have thought 70s music was bad, but if you like prog rock, the 70s were amazing. There's also what I've heard called the Sieve of Time: the music that you remember from bygone eras is the music that stood up over time and gained a foothold in the popular consciousness. Think of 1969 in music: Led Zeppelin's first two albums, the Who's Tommy, the Beatles' Abbey Road, Hendrix's Electric Ladyland, King Crimson's genre-defining debut In the Court of the Crimson King, the debut albums by proto-punk bands MC5 and the Stooges, Sly and the Family Stone's Stand!, and a lot of other incredibly important albums came out, to say nothing of the Woodstock festival. What was one of the biggest singles of the year? Sugar Sugar by the Archies, a bit of novelty fluff by a fictional band based on Archie Comics. How many people remember that song versus, say, Get Back, or Everyday People, or Whole Lotta Love?

    Alas I remember The Archies. A shout out for Van der Graaf Generator (my first LP).

    I don't remember the Archies but Prog Rock, including Van der Graaf Generator, still is great! I had a whole load of Yes, Van der Graaf Generator, King Crimson, Moody Blues and many others on vinyl, and when I switched to CDs I spent years getting them all again on CD (took me ages to track down any Curved Air CDs). 

  • Peter WadePeter Wade Posts: 1,695
    edited June 27

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    I played my Monkees LP to death

    I liked watching the Archies but never cared for the music

    The Banana Splits were hands down the best theme song wise

    and generally good https://www.youtube.com/@bananasplitssoundtrack2710

    Before I got into prog rock I was a total Monkees fan. I watched them on TV and saved up my pocket money for a Monkees LP. Unfortunatly on my first atempt I saved up twelve shillings and sixpence which was the price of an LP in Woolworths. When I got to the proper record shop I found Monkees LPs were thirty two shillings and sixpence! So it was back home and a long wait for my Monkees LP.

     

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  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,740

    Peter Wade said:

    I don't remember the Archies but Prog Rock, including Van der Graaf Generator, still is great! I had a whole load of Yes, Van der Graaf Generator, King Crimson, Moody Blues and many others on vinyl, and when I switched to CDs I spent years getting them all again on CD (took me ages to track down any Curved Air CDs). 

    And Genesis, and Kansas, and Camel, and Rush, and ELP.....

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 41,153

    I only mentioned TV show music I liked

    my actual tastes in 80's music was quite different cheeky

    lots of so called Stadium Rock including Yes, Emerson Lake and Palmer, Asia, Fleetwood Mac etc

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,475

    Gordig said:

    Peter Wade said:

    I don't remember the Archies but Prog Rock, including Van der Graaf Generator, still is great! I had a whole load of Yes, Van der Graaf Generator, King Crimson, Moody Blues and many others on vinyl, and when I switched to CDs I spent years getting them all again on CD (took me ages to track down any Curved Air CDs). 

    And Genesis, and Kansas, and Camel, and Rush, and ELP.....

    If you like that, then check out "Wingful of Eyes" by Gong. 

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 41,153

    back on topic

    Robin definitely is into Hair Bands like Bon Jovi cheeky

  • Peter WadePeter Wade Posts: 1,695

    xyer0 said:

    Gordig said:

    Peter Wade said:

    I don't remember the Archies but Prog Rock, including Van der Graaf Generator, still is great! I had a whole load of Yes, Van der Graaf Generator, King Crimson, Moody Blues and many others on vinyl, and when I switched to CDs I spent years getting them all again on CD (took me ages to track down any Curved Air CDs). 

    And Genesis, and Kansas, and Camel, and Rush, and ELP.....

    If you like that, then check out "Wingful of Eyes" by Gong. 

    I don't know that album but I really like their Flying Teapot/Angel's Egg/You trilogy. I'll have a look out for it. I'm mainly a CD and mp3 listener but I've dabbled in streaming with Amazon Music and I have found some good prog music on it 

  • garrett_3dgarrett_3d Posts: 588

    Gordig said:

    Anyone who thinks that music was better in any given period of time need to answer the question of WHICH music. 

    OK. The '80's for me was all about the likes of Spandau Ballet, Foreigner, The Police, Kajagoogoo, U2, Guns 'n' Roses, Iron Maiden, Van Halen, INXS, etc. I even like Eddie Murphy as a pop singer, 'Party all the time' is an awesome tune.

  • StarLabzStarLabz Posts: 80

    Ryleigh for Robin 9 is missing and doesnt exist.  IT stated when purchasing this you had to find it under exclusive Premier Content in the SMART CONTENT inside DAZ.  It's not there?  So why was this added as an incentive to purchase?

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 5,935

    If you have an MRI I recommend NOT having Bon Jovi, Aerosmith, or Queen played on the headset if asked. Actually, I don't recommend any music, the MRI just ruins it amd it just messes with you hearing the technician's voice telling you what the next segment will last or if you need to hold your breath. This past Monday I made that mistake. Partway through I asked for the music to be turned off and my head felt better. All three groups are ones I love to listen to when driving. 

  • caravellecaravelle Posts: 2,741
    edited June 28

    The eighties? Awful fashion, hairstyles and make-up, very few good films. Musically, things looked better: Talking Heads, Patti Smith, ‘My Life in the Bush of Ghosts’ (Brian Eno & David Byrne), Laurie Anderson, The Police, Sting, Eurythmics, BAP (a band from Cologne), Peter Tosh, Linton Kwesi Johnson, Youssou N’Dour. 

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  • 3DSaga3DSaga Posts: 842

    I don't see anything in this bundle that stands out as 1980s to me. There are so many signature things in terms of fashion, hair style and props that could've been included. It's not that it's a "bad" selection or that the bundle lacks quality; it's just that it misses the mark for me. It's not going to be my selection for Premier character coupon. 

  • Peter WadePeter Wade Posts: 1,695

    StarLabz said:

    Ryleigh for Robin 9 is missing and doesnt exist.  IT stated when purchasing this you had to find it under exclusive Premier Content in the SMART CONTENT inside DAZ.  It's not there?  So why was this added as an incentive to purchase?

    The premier exclusive characters usually don't appear until a few days after the main character is released. You just have to wait until they release it.

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,706

    Gordig said:

    Last Train to Clarksville is SO good.

    butterflyfish said:

    I'm pretty sure Davy sang Valleri.  

    Wikipedia says you're correct.

    Yeah, you're right.  I was thrown by the fact that I'd seen Dolenz do the leads for Valleri in live performances and had forgotten that Jones was the first member of the band to die.

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