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ChatGPT and I are creating an Alice In Wonderland Scene!

Jan_ScrapperJan_Scrapper Posts: 688
edited May 8 in Art Studio

ChatGPT and I are creating an Alice In Wonderland Scene!

Over a week ago, ChatGPT created a scene after I gave instructions for.

I have been rounding up all of my Daz Products and Kit-Bashing everything.

I sometimes have ChatGPT look for things that maybe I have missed...even though I use a LOT of searches for items.

You would NOT believe the things I have come up with.

For this wonderful tree in the foreground with twines, I asked ChatGPT to make me a texture map, displacement map and normal map for my tree.

After looking at my many products, I decided to use a LB Creepy Tree.  I cut the roots and the twigs off in Carrara to use as my main tree.

Then, I textured the LB Beanstalk like the tree!!!  I used 3 of the beanstalks to go around the tree.  The wonderful vines are ok as is.  

Changing everthing to Iray, as best as I can.

RDNA has Topiaries in a heart shape.  That is just precious for my scene.

I have taken Kings Cottage and Iray Worlds | Daz 3D to use for my 2 hills and checked stairs and paths.  I cut up the terrain in Carrara to just have those parts.

I cannot make anything, but I can put things together and take apart stuff LOL

I have a long ways to go and have thought about quitting so many times.

Anyway, I have asked ChatGPT many things...even camera angles and such.  Today, I told her...yes,  now ChatGPT is a her...I told her to that I was trying to create this scene in Daz Studio.  So, she gave me a very detailed outline that I thought you guys might get a giggle from:

 

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Yes — this scene can be recreated in Daz Studio, but the easiest way is to build it in layers, almost like a theater set.

Scene setup

Use a 4:3 landscape render. A good high-resolution setting would be:

2048 × 1536 px or 3000 × 2250 px

Camera style:

Eye-level, straight-on camera angle with a centered one-point perspective.

Suggested Daz camera settings:

  • Focal length: 28mm–35mm

  • Camera height: about human eye level

  • Depth of field: light or moderate

  • Focus point: the open iron gate / center path

  • Composition: path starts large in foreground and narrows toward the castle

Build the scene in layers

1. Background layer

This is the distant fantasy world.

Use:

  • A pastel fantasy sky HDRI or painted backdrop

  • Distant castle or fairy-tale palace

  • Rolling green hills

  • Large oversized mushrooms placed far back

  • Small cypress/topiary trees

  • Atmospheric haze or fog plane for softness

The castle does not need to be fully 3D unless the camera will move. For a still render, a background image plane works very well.

2. Middle layer

This is the garden path and main gate area.

Use:

  • Winding stone path

  • Grass terrain

  • Iron garden gate

  • Ornate arch or arbor

  • Stone pillars

  • Small tunnel / hobbit-style doorway under the arch

  • Rose bushes around the gate

  • Hanging lanterns

  • Playing-card signs: heart and spade

The arch and gate are the most important pieces because they frame the whole scene.

3. Foreground layer

This gives the image its Wonderland tea-party look.

Use:

  • Large red-and-white mushroom on the left

  • Teapot and sugar bowl/tea urn on the left

  • Teapot, teacup, saucer, and small table/stool on the right

  • Large roses in pink, cream, and red

  • Purple flower spikes

  • Checkered black-and-white garden tiles

  • Large antique wall clock on the right

  • Twisted tree trunk and vines on the left

This foreground should feel oversized and close to the camera.

Assets to look for

For Daz Studio or Renderosity, search for these types of assets:

Architecture / props

  • ornate iron garden gate

  • rose arch / garden arbor

  • wrought iron fence

  • fantasy castle

  • fairy-tale castle

  • hobbit door / round door

  • garden lantern

  • vintage clock / antique wall clock

  • playing cards / Alice props

  • tea set / porcelain teapot / teacup

  • chessboard or checker tile floor

Nature

  • fantasy mushrooms

  • oversized mushrooms

  • toadstools

  • rose bushes

  • climbing roses

  • ivy vines

  • topiary trees

  • cypress trees

  • flower beds

  • foxglove / lupine flowers

  • fantasy garden plants

Terrain

  • curved stone path

  • garden path

  • mossy stones

  • rolling hills

  • grass props

  • flower meadow

  • garden steps

Materials and colors

Use a soft pastel palette:

  • Blush pink roses

  • Cream roses

  • Deep red accent roses

  • Mint green leaves

  • Soft lavender flowers

  • Pale blue sky

  • Aqua and pink mushroom caps

  • Warm antique brass for lanterns and gate details

  • Blue-and-white porcelain for the teapot

  • Black-and-white checker tiles

For the mushrooms, you can recolor the diffuse/base color maps in Daz Studio or apply new Iray shaders. The scene in your image uses fantasy colors, so even realistic mushroom models can be made pastel.

Lighting setup

Use warm, magical lighting:

  • Sun/Sky or HDRI: soft late-afternoon light

  • Key light: warm light from upper left

  • Lanterns: point lights or emissive Iray shaders inside the lamps

  • Fill light: soft cool fill from the sky

  • Bloom: subtle, especially around lanterns

In Iray, make the lantern glass slightly warm and glowing. Add a small point light inside each lantern.

Best Daz workflow

  1. Set the camera first.

  2. Add the path, gate, and arch.

  3. Place the castle and hills in the background.

  4. Add large mushrooms at different scales.

  5. Add trees, topiary, roses, and vines.

  6. Add tea props, clock, lanterns, and playing-card signs.

  7. Apply pastel shaders and floral textures.

  8. Add haze, bloom, and depth of field.

  9. Render in 4:3.

Most important pieces to recreate the look

The scene will read correctly as long as you include:

Ornate iron rose gate + winding stone path + oversized mushrooms + castle in distance + tea-party props + roses/vines + antique clock + warm glowing lanterns.

Those elements will immediately give it the same Wonderland fantasy garden feeling.

 

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  • Muon QuarkMuon Quark Posts: 587

    That is very cool Jan.  So ChatGPT helped you set up the scene is DAZ Studio?  How so?  I have alot of Alice in Wonderland stuff in my library.  Haven't done anything in over a year or so but this might be worth a try.  Thanks for sharing.

  • Jan_ScrapperJan_Scrapper Posts: 688
    edited May 7

    Well, I have to ask the questions!

    Like, find a walking path prop at Daz3d or Renderosity or Poser Content.

    ChatGPT will literally look at those websites for walking paths :)

    I asked ChatGPT to make a fantasy tree texture map, normal map and a displacement map.

    So, I have to ask the right questions.  However, since it is a running chat of over a week, ChatGPT knows what I am doing.

    I could use ChatGPT to make a background for me...which it did in the first post.  However, that isn't as fun for me.

    I am retired now.  A lot of people do crossword puzzles in retirement.  That would help my vocabulary, but I want to produce art.  So, gathering Daz Studio stuff is like a puzzle!!

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  • Jan_ScrapperJan_Scrapper Posts: 688

    The other day, I was looking for a specific clock I saw in the Daz Gallery.

    So, this is what ChatGPT told me:

    I searched, and I did not find the exact same clock from the image on Daz3D or Renderosity. The clock looks like a large shabby-chic patchwork wall clock with floral/rose texture, and the exact face design may be a custom texture or 2D background element.

    The closest useful options I found:

    1. Daz3D — Modern Wall Clocks
      Best base if you want to recreate it. It includes rigged wall clocks, pose controls for the hands, battered/broken options, and texture templates, so you could add a floral vintage clock-face texture yourself.
    2. Daz3D — FG Clock Collection
      This has 59 clocks, including “Old Wood Antique Wall Clock,” “Wood Antique Wall Clock,” and “Wooden Round Wall Clock,” which may be the closest overall collection for finding a round antique-style clock.
    3. Daz3D — Antique Clocks
      Includes a wall clock with moving hands and pendulum, but it is more traditional than the one in your image.
    4. Renderosity — DS.I.C.K. Keeping Time for DAZ Studio
      A small Daz Studio clock prop set on Renderosity, but it does not look like the floral patchwork clock in your screenshot.

    I also tried checking SamaraBlue’s Renderosity gallery, but the page redirects to a sign-in screen, so I couldn’t confirm product credits from the gallery page itself.

    My best recommendation: use Daz3D Modern Wall Clocks or FG Clock Collection, then apply a custom shabby floral/rose clock-face texture to make it match this image.

  • GreybroGreybro Posts: 2,668

    You have my interest

     

  • Jan_ScrapperJan_Scrapper Posts: 688

    Greybro said:

    You have my interest

     

    Thank you!!

     

    Ok, I have grown very agravated in trying to create the perfect hills and pathways using parts of products that I have.

    So, I used Meshy AI to crate the 3d model from my image.

    I still have much to do.  The grass is too shiny and the pathways aren't as textured as I would like.  However, I am getting there!! 

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  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,833

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/uploads/FileUpload/21/4921ec1ceca2d1b7bcacbb20470c58.png is a beautiful image.

  • Jan_ScrapperJan_Scrapper Posts: 688

    barbult said:

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/uploads/FileUpload/21/4921ec1ceca2d1b7bcacbb20470c58.png is a beautiful image.

    Thank you so much!  I am such an Alice In Wonderland fan :) 

  • somefunoksomefunok Posts: 67

    This is really, really interesting, thank you so much for posting and please continue to share your explorations.

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 10,658

    barbult said:

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/uploads/FileUpload/21/4921ec1ceca2d1b7bcacbb20470c58.png is a beautiful image.

    Looks amazing. Just wonder, how much time would take to recreate such image from scratch in Daz Studio.

     

  • Jan_ScrapperJan_Scrapper Posts: 688
    edited May 8

    Artini said:

    barbult said:

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/uploads/FileUpload/21/4921ec1ceca2d1b7bcacbb20470c58.png is a beautiful image.

    Looks amazing. Just wonder, how much time would take to recreate such image from scratch in Daz Studio.

     

    I made my first image:  ChatGPT Image Apr 29, 2026, 04_05_29 PM  :)  So, over a week now.

    I have searched a lot of my products..Poser and Daz Studio.

    I have searched for things I cannot afford, yet :)

    Now, I am trying to make my terrain in Meshy AI.

    I know so many people don't believe in AI.  However, I try to only use it when I get so frustrated.  I don't have natural talent in art or any training.

    So, I am trying to make 2 of the paths in my scene have black and white checks..like Alice In Wonderland theme :)

    I will update you guys!

    Thank you so much for being interested :)

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  • jmucchiellojmucchiello Posts: 1,281

    Isn't this supposed to be in Art Studio?

  • Jan_ScrapperJan_Scrapper Posts: 688

    jmucchiello said:

    Isn't this supposed to be in Art Studio?

    If it is moved, I will find it.

    ***************************************************

    Freebie Alert

    I made the image in ChapGPT and the obj in MetaAI.  I should have as much right to share it as anyone shares any thing.  I put a more than 3 days into the terrain!!!

    It is the scene to import as an obj into Daz Studio.  You might have to apply the texture map, normal map and displacement map manually.   

    Decorate your Alice in Wonderland scene!!!

     Alice in Wonderland -Terrain 0508260 1106am final i hope

    That is in my one drive to share with you guys!!!

    Have fun!! 

    I will update you guys as I make changes!!

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  • backgroundbackground Posts: 770
    edited May 8

    Lewis Carroll ( Charles Dodgson ) was an interesting character, and his relationship with members of the Liddell family, and Alice in particular has come under a lot of scrutiny over the years. Certainly some of the things he did seem strange to me, but I think it's wrong to judge someone from the Victorian era by modern day standards.He kept detailed diaries from an early age to the end of his life, but the diaries for the period when he had a major falling out with the Liddell family sadly no longer exist.

    He was an accomplished photographer and mathmatician, and wrote books on maths and logic. I have read that the Alice books have elements which are really mathmatical and logic puzzles, but I've never studied that aspect of them.

    One of the things he often did when sending one of his books to a child was to write an 'acrostic' in the book which incorporated the child's name  ( for anyone who is not familiar, an acrostic is a word puzzle, where the firsst, last, or middle letters of each line of text, or paragraph of text spell out a specific word when read vertically). .

    Once, when discussing photography, he wrote that his secret to excellence in  photographs was to take 'Xie' and put her in front of the 'lens'  A girl called Xie ( short for Alexandra ) being one of his favourite models who he photographed about fifty times.

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  • Jan_ScrapperJan_Scrapper Posts: 688

    background said:

    Lewis Carroll ( Charles Dodgson ) was an interesting character, and his relationship with members of the Liddell family, and Alice in particular has come under a lot of scrutiny over the years. Certainly some of the things he did seem strange to me, but I think it's wrong to judge someone from the Victorian era by modern day standards.He kept detailed diaries from an early age to the end of his life, but the diaries for the period when he had a major falling out with the Liddell family sadly no longer exist.

    Alice Liddell - Wikipedia

    I forgot all about this!!!

    I must read it again!!! 

  • EthinEthin Posts: 1,330

    Cool!yes

     

    For me personally, a lot of the fun comes from the creative process itself, so I’ve found it more satisfying to use AI as an assistant rather than having it do too much work for me.

    One thing I had ChatGPT do was analyze my artwork and characters and give me artistic breakdowns and critiques. I was hoping it would point out major weaknesses or obvious areas where I needed to improve. Instead, based on the tools I was using (DAZ Studio, Aiko 3, 3Delight), my skill growth, and the evolution of my style over time, it basically told me my work was already much stronger than I realized, and that most of the improvements it suggested were smaller finishing touches rather than major changes.

    At the moment, I’m also having it help me with a plant breeding project. It’s been useful for identifying unique traits, explaining what they could mean genetically, and helping me think through possible crosses.

    Oddly enough though, one of the most useful things for me has just been ChatGPT’s dictation tool. lol. It’s so much easier to say what I want in a few seconds and then clean it up afterward instead of spending an hour trying to type out a paragraph. Although I still sometimes have to reorganize my responses a bit to make them more coherent. Honestly, my communication skills are messy enough that even ChatGPT occasionally gets confused about what I’m trying to say.laugh

  • Muon QuarkMuon Quark Posts: 587

    First test of the terrain.  Not sure what happened with the black and white tile??  I've been away from DAZ for awhile so.....

     

     

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  • Jan_ScrapperJan_Scrapper Posts: 688

    Ethin said:

    Cool!yes

     

    For me personally, a lot of the fun comes from the creative process itself, so I’ve found it more satisfying to use AI as an assistant rather than having it do too much work for me.

    One thing I had ChatGPT do was analyze my artwork and characters and give me artistic breakdowns and critiques. I was hoping it would point out major weaknesses or obvious areas where I needed to improve. Instead, based on the tools I was using (DAZ Studio, Aiko 3, 3Delight), my skill growth, and the evolution of my style over time, it basically told me my work was already much stronger than I realized, and that most of the improvements it suggested were smaller finishing touches rather than major changes.

    At the moment, I’m also having it help me with a plant breeding project. It’s been useful for identifying unique traits, explaining what they could mean genetically, and helping me think through possible crosses.

    Oddly enough though, one of the most useful things for me has just been ChatGPT’s dictation tool. lol. It’s so much easier to say what I want in a few seconds and then clean it up afterward instead of spending an hour trying to type out a paragraph. Although I still sometimes have to reorganize my responses a bit to make them more coherent. Honestly, my communication skills are messy enough that even ChatGPT occasionally gets confused about what I’m trying to say.laugh

    Ethin!!!  Goodness, I am so glad you are here!!

    I could never repay you for the precious characters you have made for me!!!

    I hope you can use this terrain for something fun )

    I am trying to learn to communicate with ChatGPT properly, however I am not very good :)

     

  • backgroundbackground Posts: 770
    edited May 8

    That page includes one of the acrostics, a poem with twenty one lines, the first letter of each line of the poem spells out Alice's full name when read vertically.

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  • Jan_ScrapperJan_Scrapper Posts: 688

    Muon Quark said:

    First test of the terrain.  Not sure what happened with the black and white tile??  I've been away from DAZ for awhile so.....

     

     

    No, it's not you!!!  Meshy AI did NOT do a good job with the black and white checked texture. :( 

  • Jan_ScrapperJan_Scrapper Posts: 688
    edited May 8

    background said:

    That page includes one of the acrostics, a poem with twenty one lines, the first letter of each lines spells out Alice's full name when read vertically.

     

    The poem has no title in Through the Looking-Glass, but is usually referred to by its first line, "A Boat Beneath a Sunny Sky".

    A boat beneath a sunny sky,
    Lingering onward dreamily
    In an evening of July—

    Children three that nestle near,
    Eager eye and willing ear,
    Pleased a simple tale to hear—

    Long has paled that sunny sky:
    Echoes fade and memories die.
    Autumn frosts have slain July.

    Still she haunts me, phantomwise,
    Alice moving under skies
    Never seen by waking eyes.

    Children yet, the tale to hear,
    Eager eye and willing ear,
    Lovingly shall nestle near.

    In a Wonderland they lie,
    Dreaming as the days go by,
    Dreaming as the summers die:

    Ever drifting down the stream—
    Lingering in the golden gleam—
    Life, what is it but a dream?

    It is so beautiful!!!

    I learn so much doing 3d Art!!!!  I have learned a few words in in others languages. Please don't test me!!

    I have learned where certain plants grow so I don't put the wrong plants in a tropical setting or whatever :)

    I Google so many things to know how to use things!!!

    Now, a wonderful poem that I should have learned in school!!!

    Thank you so much, background!!!

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  • Muon QuarkMuon Quark Posts: 587

    Jan_Scrapper said:

    Muon Quark said:

    First test of the terrain.  Not sure what happened with the black and white tile??  I've been away from DAZ for awhile so.....

     

     

    No, it's not you!!!  Meshy AI did NOT do a good job with the black and white checked texture. :( 

    No worries.  You did a great job on the terrain itself.  Very Alice in Wonderland.  smiley 

  • backgroundbackground Posts: 770
    edited May 8

    If you like the Alice in Wonderland landscape you would probably enjoy Portmeirion. It is a 'village' made very much in a storybook style and setting. It is quite a strange place to wander around in, the dimensions of things are often not what they appear to be from a distance, a whole building which looks large from a distance can be just the size of one room when you get inside. Everything is 'full size' in the sense that you can enter the buildings and climb the bell tower, but the setting makes them look much larger. Oh and there's also a boat tied up at the jetty, which you can get aboard and look around, but most of it is built from stone. ( I did read that parts of it came from a real boat that was wreked ). The village was used as the main set for the original TV series 'The Prisoner'. It has a giant chess board for human size pieces, but I don't think it's set out all the time as it damages the grass.

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  • Jan_ScrapperJan_Scrapper Posts: 688

    Oh, Background!!!  Book me a flight to Wales!!!  Yes, I LOVE it!!  Never, ever heard of this place.  Are you from Europe?

  • backgroundbackground Posts: 770
    edited May 8

    I'm from the UK, but not Wales. I have visited Portmeirion twice, once when I was a child and once when I was about 50. The second visit I felt it had lost something of its magical atmosphere, but that was maybe just me being older and not having a child's sense of wonder.

     

    To get a sense of what it is like being there try the first episode of 'The Prisoner' The Prisoner Ep. 1 | Arrival | Full Episode

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  • Jan_ScrapperJan_Scrapper Posts: 688
    edited May 8

    That link isn't available in the US :(

    I found a Microsoft Bing link:  Bing Videos

    I will see if I can watch all it!

    I watch so many movies and tv series for the scenery LOL

    I skipped ahead to see the town!  Oh my goodness!  It's awesome.

    I will never be able to go to Wales.  I have anxiety about not being in control.  It's horrible :(  I have NEVER been afraid to fly because of crashing...Nope, it's because I can't get out if I want to.  

    It's a horrible thing.  My oldes son lives in Minnisota and I live in Texas.  It's been 8 years since I saw him.  We drove.  I don't think I can make the trip again, however I might try it.  I certainly cannot fly.

    I romantize everything about the UK!!

    All of the movies from the 50's and 60's!  Going around the bend in a British roadster.  With James Bond...no less :)

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,849

    I started watching The Prisoner when I first got my smart TV using the Tubi app, it might be free for you there

    I quit after about 10 episodes because it was just too dated and confusing for me though I did enjoy the scenery

    my neighbours blow up pool flying over my fence in a storm reminded me of it surprise

  • Jan_ScrapperJan_Scrapper Posts: 688

    Oh, WendyLuvsCatz!!!   That is too crazy!!  I saw it in my mind as I read your post LOL  I am so sorry.

    I use Tubi all of the time!  I will check it out.  Thank you for the tip!

     

  • backgroundbackground Posts: 770
    edited May 8

    I'm not afraid of flying, it's the hitting the ground that worries me. ( sorry I don't mean to make light of your feelings about control ). Somehow the bit I wrote about my failing eyesight, and no longer being able to drive got lost, suffice to say I'm no longer able to go places.

    Portmeirion was created by Clough Williams Ellis as a sort of 'folly' He brought all kinds of strange bits together and somehow made something very picturesque and storybook. For example the imposing  triple arch entrance to the green dome building was originally a fireplace from a stately home.

     

    The Prisoner is dated it's true. In the first episode he is surprised when he picks up a telephone handset and someone answers, that's because mobile phones weren't a thing then, so he would expect a working phone to have a wire connected to it.

    I think it's intended to be confusing , basically the people who run the village are trying to break the spirit of the main character, and getting him to explain why he resigned is just the first step towards making him compliant. Since he is so strong willed they use a variety of methods to try to break him, including powerful hallucagenic drugs, and advanced tech which enables them to manipulate his dreams. Each time they try some new approach he may initally fall for it, but inevitably he finds some clue that tells him it's not real, and he's then able to regain control. Sometimes an episode includes  some explanation of how they are trying to get inside his mind, other episodes he just starts off in a totallly different environment ( such as the Wild West , but even then he recognises people that he's seen in the village, so he figures out it's a trick.

    For himself he wants to escape and find out who is running the village, and most of all, who is number one. ( Possible spoiler ahead ) In the last episode we get a clue that the whole series may not have been about what I wrote above,a and that it's more about the main character himself. ( hope that's not too much of a spoiler, )

    Many fans belive the main character is John Drake', so was the lead character in 'Danger Man' which came to an end when the lead actor  Patrick McGoohan resigned from the role. Possibly for contractual reasons they never acknowledged this.

    Apparently the whole concept was based of some discussion about what happens to real spies if they are no longer able to work, or if they resign. They are bound to know some secrets, so you can't just let them go back to a normal life.

     

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  • Jan_ScrapperJan_Scrapper Posts: 688

    Well, I am 70 years old :)  I still watch all of my favorites!!

    One of which is Twilight Zone.  

    "The episodes are in various genres, including science fiction, fantasy, absurdism, dystopian fiction, suspense, horror, supernatural drama, black comedy, and psychological thriller, frequently concluding with a macabre or unexpected twist, and usually with a moral. A popular and critical success, it introduced many Americans to common science fiction and fantasy tropes. The first series, shot entirely in black-and-white, ran on CBS for five seasons from 1959 to 1964."

    There are newer episodes, but the old black and white's are so good!

    One of my favs is about a man that loves to read.  He is in a bank vault at lunch, I believe, and the world blows up.  He is the only person alive.

    Time Enough at Last - Wikipedia

     

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 10,658
    edited May 11

    Inspired by a story posted here.

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