ChatGPT and I are creating an Alice In Wonderland Scene!

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  • Jan_ScrapperJan_Scrapper Posts: 798

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    no idea what transpired because I missed it, but I once posted something in pure naivety, a prompt I used borrowed from somwhere else based on Lovecraftian creatures I had copied, that was exceedingly racist. I don't think in those terms so didn't pick up on it. Didn't know much about Lovecraft and his attitudes, just that he described creepy cryptids and made good prompts for getting them. I still didn't realise when pointed out to me that it was (misinterpreted the comment by someone I like and was of that race) and that thread is locked now so I cannot even edit my post with a sincere apology.

    I won't repeat or link to it. Still feel very bad about surprise

    Goodness!!!  How do things go from Lovecraftian creatures to a racist problem :(  That is so sad!!  AND we make these mistakes and don't even realize it.  

    I'm not against anyone who does not hurt anyone.  Do your thing, be nice.  

     

  • Jan_ScrapperJan_Scrapper Posts: 798
    edited May 27

    Artini said:

     

    Thank you so much!!

    I loved your 3 children in the boat.  That was just magical. 

    It was AI generated, but thanks. The prompts to AI should be long enough to get good results.

    My current skills in Daz Studio and Blender are long behind possibilities of AI,

    so I use AI as an entertainment tool.

     

     This is what makes me sad about AI and my wanting to use it with my Daz Studio work.

    I have bought 38 of deviney | Daz 3D products.  Brushes, backgrounds, etc.

    I do use them sometimes, but never will my art look like I want it to.

    There are VERY skilled artists here.  Some have natural talent and others are professionsals...I suppose.

    Their art is incredible.  I want my work to be incredible!

    So, I use AI to enhance it.

    Many, many people deplore AI use.  I wish they knew that I can spend a month on something, day and night, force fast food on hubby and myself (LOL,) and neglect everything.

    Then, I turn to AI to help me.  

    I realize the people really against it are really talking about stolen art from many sources.  I see their point.

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    During his time at the Saint-Paul-de-Mausole asylum in Saint-Rémy, Van Gogh made over 30 copies of works by artists he admired, such as Jean-François Millet, Eugène Delacroix, and Rembrandt Wikipedia+1. He did this not to steal credit, but to study composition, color, and technique through his own brushwork. He wrote to his brother Theo that these copies “give me a kind of comfort” and that his brush moved “like a bow over the strings of a violin” — a clear sign that he valued the process of making art, not just the finished product Wikipedia.

    Van Gogh’s approach to copying was deeply personal and educational. He adapted the subjects and styles of others to fit his own vision, infusing them with his characteristic emotional intensity and symbolism Wikipedia. This shows that for him, imitation was a tool for growth, not a threat.

    In short, Van Gogh’s own practice suggests he would have been more interested in the act of creating and learning than in preventing others from imitating his style. His legacy today is built on the fact that his work continues to inspire countless artists — a testament to its enduring influence.

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  • Hermit CrabHermit Crab Posts: 884

    Even though I haven't ever read 'Alice in Wonderland', the imagery and main events have popped up throughout my life.

    The first PC game I ever played was the original Tomb Raider ten years after its release.  I just wasn't interested in games.  But I absolutely got hooked on completing it and went looking for similar games.  I found 'American Magee's Alice' and loved playing that too.  The graphics and the music especially are fantastic.  It is a very hard game to play: you get the option of choosing it to make it less difficult and there is also a cheat code to be applied making you immune to the boss level attacks.

    The slant put on the 'Alice' theme is that she is deranged, given to extreme rage and violence and is in an asylum to begin with.  It sounds terrible but her excursion into Wonderland brings about healing.  The enemies (characters from the book) are trying to prevent that.

    You might like to use Google, YouTube or some such to see images of the game.  I think there was a sequel and apparently fans are re-mastering the graphics.  If I ever get time I must check it out again.

  • Jan_ScrapperJan_Scrapper Posts: 798

    Hermit Crab said:

    Even though I haven't ever read 'Alice in Wonderland', the imagery and main events have popped up throughout my life.

    The first PC game I ever played was the original Tomb Raider ten years after its release.  I just wasn't interested in games.  But I absolutely got hooked on completing it and went looking for similar games.  I found 'American Magee's Alice' and loved playing that too.  The graphics and the music especially are fantastic.  It is a very hard game to play: you get the option of choosing it to make it less difficult and there is also a cheat code to be applied making you immune to the boss level attacks.

    The slant put on the 'Alice' theme is that she is deranged, given to extreme rage and violence and is in an asylum to begin with.  It sounds terrible but her excursion into Wonderland brings about healing.  The enemies (characters from the book) are trying to prevent that.

    You might like to use Google, YouTube or some such to see images of the game.  I think there was a sequel and apparently fans are re-mastering the graphics.  If I ever get time I must check it out again. 

    I DID Google it!  I had never heard of that and it came out 26 years ago.

    It's a well loved game, for certain :) 

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    Would Van Gogh Be Upset About People Imitating His Art?

    Based on historical evidence, Vincent van Gogh would likely not have been upset about people imitating his art — in fact, he himself often copied the works of other artists to learn and be inspired.

     

     

    I think he would not have been upset that people were copying his work on principle. As they say "Immitation is the best form of flattery" . I think he would have been upset if people told him his art was boring because everyone was making pictures in his style, or if he was losing money because other people were selling near identical pictures ( I'm not sure if Van Gogh sold his pictures ).

    I have mixed feelings on AI, some days I'm fine with it, and other days something makes me annoyed about it. Part of that is the frustration I have when I try and make pictures with it. ( I can't do that at the moment, the computer would melt ).

    People like Artini and yourself Jan, I have no problem at all with. You are making original and high quality art. ( not that my opinion is important ).

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 10,900
    edited May 28

    I have played a Space Defenders game on Timex 1000 computer with 2 KBytes of RAM.

    It was probably one of the first games played by me.

    There was no real graphics, but instead was a semigraphics, all black and white.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timex_Sinclair_1000

     

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  • backgroundbackground Posts: 929
    edited May 28

    Artini said:

    I have played a Space Defenders game on Timex 1000 computer with 2 KBytes of RAM.

    It was probably one of the first game played by me.

    There was no real graphics, but instead was a semigraphics, all black and white.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timex_Sinclair_1000

     

    It's amazing that early home computers could do so much with so little memory. These days just the icon for a game is well over 2Kb. And I think there was a lot more variety in in the early games, in the days before a narrow range of genres dominated the market.

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  • cjfeacjfea Posts: 331

    Jan_Scrapper said:

    I am finally going to post my work!

    I will be so glad when Daz3d's gallery is back.

    Anyway,

    here it is.

    Alice's Garden

    Project started:  April 30, 2026
    Project Completed:  May 26, 2026

    Daz Products:
    Q321 Casie for Genesis 9 Feminine
    dForce Princess Series Elven Half Updo Hair
    Pufflet The Bunny
    Neon Steam Punk Hats for Genesis 8
    Steam Punk Hats for Genesis 8

    Artificial Intelligence work:
    Chat GPT was used for all initial ideas, Color coding, texture
       adjustments, image creators, and many, many mor
    Meshy AI was used to make most of the 3d content:
       Flowers
       Flower Basket
       Dress
       Mushrooms
       China
       Many more

    Blender was used to Decimate the geometry of all
      Meshy obj's.  Most are far too heavy on my computer.

     

     

     

     Great job!

  • backgroundbackground Posts: 929
    edited May 31

    Jan_Scrapper said:

    I am finally going to post my work!

    I will be so glad when Daz3d's gallery is back.

    Anyway,

    here it is.

    Alice's Garden

    Project started:  April 30, 2026
    Project Completed:  May 26, 2026

     

     

     

     

    It's a really impressive image. It would look great as the cover of a book.  I don't think I could ever compose something that intricate.

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