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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,698

    I grew up knowing them as kartoffelpuffer

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 10,495

    Stezza said:

    I did the lyrics of the songs based on the age old argument downunder 'are they potato scallops or potato cakes'

    then used Gemini to create my band ( the Scallop Rockers ) in an Aussie pub and then used AIMusic gen to create the video..

    the whole process took around one hour. surprise

    Stezza, that is scary good , who needs humans ...?

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 10,495

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    I grew up knowing them as kartoffelpuffer

    we were too poor to be able to afford kartoffelpuffers, we only dreamt abou them

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 10,495

    Stezza said:

    I'm using Carrara to do this.... wink

    and using Gemini to fix up.... time taken approx.. from setting up in Carrara to image ---> about 10 minutes  surprise

     

     

     

     

    crackup! better than mine :0 or ai's i mean

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 10,495
    edited April 13

    Steve K said:

    Headwax said:

    letz try that again - ai must be killing daz as a company...

    and killing illustrators, what takes me a few days to to in carrara takes ten seconds typing 

     

     

    "I have a bad feeling about this."   

     

    me too , can you do pics of George washingup here? Note the photorealism of the last image :)

     

     

     

     

     

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  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 10,495
    edited April 13

    the climax according to ai

     

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  • StezzaStezza Posts: 8,951
    edited April 13

    little do people know that James Cook is a time traveller as seen in this photo taken back in 1770 in Botany Bay.. wink

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  • Steve KSteve K Posts: 3,497

    Headwax said:

     

    me too , can you do pics of George washingup here? Note the photorealism of the last image :)

    Pretty impressive.  I don't pretend to understand AI and imaging, but what comes to mind is MAD Magazine covers, done in minutes ... surprise

    r/nostalgia - ALIENS FERRIS BUELLER'S DAY OFF THE KARATE KID No. 268 January 1987 MADE Price $1.35 eap! BARF BAG FAQ schwarz ELLIS ISLAND SLIME WEHK

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 10,495

    Stezza said:

    little do people know that James Cook is a time traveller as seen in this photo taken back in 1770 in Botany Bay.. wink

    I generated similar yesterday after seeing yours , had differences and similarities, interesting ... I think my laptop was a dell

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 10,495

    Steve K said:

    Headwax said:

     

    me too , can you do pics of George washingup here? Note the photorealism of the last image :)

    Pretty impressive.  I don't pretend to understand AI and imaging, but what comes to mind is MAD Magazine covers, done in minutes ... surprise

     

     

     

    love mad, especially spy versus spy, ai is east, I type in a prompt eg Boris The Spy with a telescope, Boris wearing striped underpants and smoking a pipe, style of. Chinese propaganda poster, portrait mode, ... and ai goes off and steals a thousands humans work and melds it into a new piece than you cannot prove was stolen 

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 10,495
    edited April 14

    Try that again 

     

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  • Steve KSteve K Posts: 3,497

    Headwax said:

     and ai goes off and steals a thousands humans work and melds it into a new piece than you cannot prove was stolen 

    Impressive example.  Kind of depressing, but I guess inevitable.  Interesting that some 3D contests are requiring "Work In Progress" supporting images to validate the entries (viewable only by the contest staff).  Here is a recent example of my entry (the overblown female figure was not my work, and I could not figure out how to adjust the complicated morph combination):

    "How should I know? It's supposed to go 'Fwoosh', but it went 'Tinkle, Tinkle, Plink' "  

    image

    In Progress image:

     

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  • StezzaStezza Posts: 8,951

    MeshWorks3d Website

    MeshWorks3D is Closing soon  

    After 18 years, they are going out of business.

     

    get their whole catalogue for $20us

    should be fine for Carrara yes

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,698
    edited April 15

    bit confusing can only buy one thing at a time and that's a lot more than $20

    I have some of their stuff from Content Paradise and Renderosity

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  • StezzaStezza Posts: 8,951

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    bit confusing can only buy one thing at a time and that's a lot more than $20

    I have some of their stuff from Content Paradise and Renderosity

    on the last page there is a buy all button.. then after that you get a page with all the downloads wink 

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,698
    edited April 15

    all I managed to download were some pipes, I bookmarked the page and went back

    but get 404 for everything else crying

    OK working now yes

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  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 10,495

    Steve K said:

    Headwax said:

     and ai goes off and steals a thousands humans work and melds it into a new piece than you cannot prove was stolen 

    Impressive example.  Kind of depressing, but I guess inevitable.  Interesting that some 3D contests are requiring "Work In Progress" supporting images to validate the entries (viewable only by the contest staff).  Here is a recent example of my entry (the overblown female figure was not my work, and I could not figure out how to adjust the complicated morph combination):

    "How should I know? It's supposed to go 'Fwoosh', but it went 'Tinkle, Tinkle, Plink' "  

    image

    In Progress image:

     

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    Love the bottom image, just the right camera angle and clarity

    yes wip is a good idea, interestingly google ai hides a digital watercolour in its work to say it is ai, 

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 10,495

    Try that again , make that a watermark :)

  • SileneUKSileneUK Posts: 1,980

    Hi Guys,  I have had to give up modelling, my AMD is rocking on. Oh well, I have turned to gardening, cooking and I got a full 88 key electric piano, but loiw budget as my expectations of rekindling my playing ability from 40 years ago are really low! laugh

    Anyways, the reason I am popping in is that that I need some advice.  A friend of my husband who is in his early 80s forwarded a TikTok creator's vids. He adamant they feature a real person, I think it's AI and many of the comments on the vids say it and when the creator responds, they don't say no, but they don't say yes.  It's not adult content of anything like that.  It is about a female USAF fighter pilot who is stationed at Lakenheath here in the UK. Now I know there ARE women pilots of various combat and other aircraft stationed there. There is an official Insta for the 48th wing but I am not on Instagram. (or TikTok) so cannot see everything etc   https://www.instagram.com/48fighterwing/

    Along with scores of women in the Air Force, Army and Navy who fly serious aircraft. You can find tidbits here and there about these resl women online. Where from, education, military service, aircraft. You can also find a really cool piece about Madison Marsh, a USAF pilot who attended the AF academy at Colorado and is an F16 pilot. I do not know where she is stationed.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM4gAKdV_Ew     There is one TikTok short at this link if you don't want to look at the first link which is longer.  https://www.tiktok.com/@u.s.pilot/video/7491312927232822571   US Pilot (acct holder) has other TikToks at this link https://www.tiktok.com/@u.s.pilot  including one composite featuring these three USAF pilots  Capts Amee Fiedler, (F16) Melanie Klusaner(F35A), along with Madison Marsh (F16). This video is from Lakenheath's official library in 2023. https://www.dvidshub.net/video/894591/flightline-operations-raf-lakenheath  And this one from 2019 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHF_w552Nfs#:~:text=Female%20F%2D15E%20Fighter%20Pilots,eagle%20%23Femalepilot%20%23Fighterpilot%20%23F15

    NOW, here is where I think the AI creeps in. It's a a page with dozens of TikToks for a pilot Captain Tara Wentworth. I can find info on the pilots above, even on Wiki, but nothing for Wentworth.  It's weird, but she's always alone*, if in a pub, gym or even in 'her' F15, no other people or noises around. Her voice is always the same. She looks the same. Her face is perfectly symertrical, even the smile which is very unusual in nature.  The laugh is just ha-ha-ha. Like cheesy acting. BUT the video is very good quality, so Panther Driver is putting a lot of work into this. Is the purpose then to use an AI female fighter pilot to showcase the USAF's fleet of NATO (I assume) based aircraft?  Some of the tidbits in her monologues are not just cringeworthy, they sound outlandish like reported singing a line from the Barbie song when on an 'open channel' in flight that a Russian pilot overheard and chuckled about.  So what do you think?  Here's the TikTok page with all of 'her' content. Note the name at the top:  Panther fan, who loves exploring British pubs and all things USAF. Fuelled by jet fuel and real ale Nice to have that kind of time!  https://www.tiktok.com/@comet4510     *alone, but in one cockpit shot (always on ground, never moving nevermind flying), there is a man in the WO seat. He looks wooden and laughs like Wentworth. 

    If this is AI, I think my husband's friend needs to know. He shares all kinds of stuff and he is from an RAF family growing up. I was a USAF brat myself. So I hate to see someone pushing content that might well be false, and end up with him getting called on it by a stranger. Perhaps the Wentworth character was created with the purpose of using AI to raise the profile of women fighter pilots serving at a NATO base. Not to be presented as a real person who is totally sassy and badi-assy in every videoi...and for which she seems to have loads of time to create.  Seems a PR person or maybe even a group of the women pilots and crew got together and created it. IDK... just my gut feeling this is AI.

    heart Silene (sorry for typos.and hope I did not mix up the link when posting about the real women figher pilots)

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,698
    edited April 15

    looks like she is animated using HeyGen

    you can create an AI avatar based on yourself or of course an entirety fake one

    lots of YouTube videos use them too for fake doctors etc giving ChatGPT generated advice with Elevenlabs voices

    and those last linked videos have the exact feel to them

    https://app.heygen.com/avatar

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  • Steve KSteve K Posts: 3,497
    edited April 15

    Headwax said:

    yes wip is a good idea, interestingly google ai hides a digital watercolour [watermark] in its work to say it is ai, 

    That is interesting, I was not aware of that.  I tried to read the article below by Google, but it seemed to be partly in Klingon.  "Watermarks are configured to parameterize the g-function ... Watermark detection is probabilistic. A Bayesian detector is provided ... "  Etc.  frown

    https://ai.google.dev/responsible/docs/safeguards/synthid

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  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 10,495

    Steve K said:

    Headwax said:

    yes wip is a good idea, interestingly google ai hides a digital watercolour [watermark] in its work to say it is ai, 

    That is interesting, I was not aware of that.  I tried to read the article below by Google, but it seemed to be partly in Klingon.  "Watermarks are configured to parameterize the g-function ... Watermark detection is probabilistic. A Bayesian detector is provided ... "  Etc.  frown

    https://ai.google.dev/responsible/docs/safeguards/synthid

     

    It's all very dystopian, I wonder how hard it is to get around ? Should be fun trying 

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 10,495

    Greetings SileneUK! Glad you are well. If it looks like ai it probably is, sadly. And in the future it will be even better (or worse) 

     

  • StezzaStezza Posts: 8,951
    edited April 16

    I started my basic render off in Carrara..... then Gemini finished it off

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  • Steve KSteve K Posts: 3,497

    Headwax said:

    Steve K said:

    Headwax said:

    yes wip is a good idea, interestingly google ai hides a digital watercolour [watermark] in its work to say it is ai, 

    That is interesting, I was not aware of that.  I tried to read the article below by Google, but it seemed to be partly in Klingon.  "Watermarks are configured to parameterize the g-function ... Watermark detection is probabilistic. A Bayesian detector is provided ... "  Etc.  frown

    https://ai.google.dev/responsible/docs/safeguards/synthid

     

    It's all very dystopian, I wonder how hard it is to get around ? Should be fun trying 

    Indeed.  My wife almost daily groans about stuff her Facebook friends excitedly send her that are obviously AI.  She & I think we can spot AI immediately, but I doubt that is entirely true and will be less true as time goes along. sad

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 10,495

    Stezza said:

    I started my basic render off in Carrara..... then Gemini finished it off

    nice work Stezza, I did one the other day and ai  improved it ....

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 10,495
    edited April 16

    Steve K said:

    Headwax said:

    Steve K said:

    Headwax said:

    yes wip is a good idea, interestingly google ai hides a digital watercolour [watermark] in its work to say it is ai, 

    That is interesting, I was not aware of that.  I tried to read the article below by Google, but it seemed to be partly in Klingon.  "Watermarks are configured to parameterize the g-function ... Watermark detection is probabilistic. A Bayesian detector is provided ... "  Etc.  frown

    https://ai.google.dev/responsible/docs/safeguards/synthid

     

    It's all very dystopian, I wonder how hard it is to get around ? Should be fun trying 

    Indeed.  My wife almost daily groans about stuff her Facebook friends excitedly send her that are obviously AI.  She & I think we can spot AI immediately, but I doubt that is entirely true and will be less true as time goes along. sad

    from what I can see  is that ai images have a certain degree of stylistic sameness, not sure what it is. I think it;s the sudden perfection of images that plumbers are making is what gives it away. I can't post the stuff i am doiung  here becaiuse it is political ..

     

    here's an after and  before 

     

     

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  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 10,495
    edited April 16

    hmm I asked copilot if the ai image was ai and it said :

     

    Short answer: It’s very unlikely that this image was created by AI. Everything about it points to a historically produced, human‑made propaganda poster.

    Why it doesn’t look like AI‑generated work

    Several features strongly suggest it’s a real, traditionally printed poster:

    1. It includes a publisher imprint and date

    • 人民美术出版社 1971 — “People’s Fine Arts Publishing House 1971” This is a real state‑run publisher in China that produced propaganda posters during the Cultural Revolution.

    2. The artist signature

    • A. Finnie 17 Propaganda posters often included artist credits. AI images rarely include consistent, readable signatures.

    3. The visual style

    • The composition, color palette, brushwork, and layout match 1970s Chinese anti‑imperialist propaganda.

    • AI models tend to produce telltale artifacts (warped hands, inconsistent text, odd anatomy). This image instead shows the clean, deliberate linework of manual illustration and offset printing.

    4. The Chinese slogans

    The text is:

    • Correctly typeset

    • Historically consistent with the era

    • Not distorted or garbled (AI often struggles with multilingual typography)

    5. Thematically accurate

    The imagery aligns with real Cultural Revolution–era posters that depicted imperialism as monstrous forces threatening oppressed peoples.

    Bottom line

    Everything—from the typography to the publisher mark to the artistic style—indicates this is a real 1971 propaganda poster, not an AI creation.

    If you want, I can also tell you more about:

    • the historical context of this type of poster

    • the publisher

    • the symbolism used in Cultural Revolution artwork

    Just let me know what direction you want to explore.

     

    then I asked google Ai and it said:

     

    This image is an AI-generated artwork styled to resemble a 1970s Chinese propaganda poster. While it features authentic-looking Chinese text and slogans from the Cultural Revolution era, the central imagery—including a surreal skeleton figure and figures in indigenous-style attire—is likely the work of a modern creator using AI tools

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  • Steve KSteve K Posts: 3,497

    Headwax said:

    hmm I asked copilot if the ai image was ai and it said :

     ...

    then I asked google Ai and it said:

    This image is an AI-generated artwork styled to resemble a 1970s Chinese propaganda poster. While it features authentic-looking Chinese text and slogans from the Cultural Revolution era, the central imagery—including a surreal skeleton figure and figures in indigenous-style attire—is likely the work of a modern creator using AI tools

    I've never used Copilot (that was the short answer?), but I routinely use Google AI, mostly for summaries of world events, not for image analysis.  I've gotten fairly good results.  Your result seems to match my expectation.

    It does remind me of an old joke.  A helicopter is taking people to the Seattle airport and gets fogged in.  The pilot hovers near a large office tower and holds up a sign reading "Where are we?"  The people in the building hold up a sign reading "You are in a helicopter."  The pilot nods and flies directly to the airport.  A passenger asks, "How did that help you?"  The pilot says, "What they said was exactly correct and totally useless.  So that was the Microsoft building, and I know where the Microsoft building is."

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 10,495

    Ha ha that's a scream ;) !

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