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Is This Surface Master Tutorial still relevent?

IceDragonArtIceDragonArt Posts: 12,972
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https://www.daz3d.com/ds-surface-master-part-1 ; Would this still be useful given all the changes to Daz recently? Specifically the Alpha  version, although I believe changes have been made to how lighting works in 4.24 as well.  Not sure if the shader information is still valid either

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  • nightwolf1982nightwolf1982 Posts: 1,241

    I doubt it will be relevant for DAZ Studio 4.24, after 3delight was removed.  If you have an older version of DS from before 3delight was removed it might be helpful.

  • IceDragonArtIceDragonArt Posts: 12,972

    nightwolf1982 said:

    I doubt it will be relevant for DAZ Studio 4.24, after 3delight was removed.  If you have an older version of DS from before 3delight was removed it might be helpful.

    I was afraid of that.  don't know why the link all of a sudden doesn't work, its in the shop under one of the special categories for march madness.  

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 4,547

    The link has some garbage on the end. That happens sometimes when sharing links in the forum.

    https://www.daz3d.com/ds-surface-master-part-1

  • IceDragonArtIceDragonArt Posts: 12,972

    Thanks!

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,607

    IceDragonArt said:

    nightwolf1982 said:

    I doubt it will be relevant for DAZ Studio 4.24, after 3delight was removed.  If you have an older version of DS from before 3delight was removed it might be helpful.

    I was afraid of that.  don't know why the link all of a sudden doesn't work, its in the shop under one of the special categories for march madness.  

    There's a lot of 3DL product still being hawked, which I would think would at least need a disclaimer on things like shaders stating that they probably won't work in future versions of DS.  

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 4,547
    edited March 11

    Cybersox said:

    There's a lot of 3DL product still being hawked, which I would think would at least need a disclaimer on things like shaders stating that they probably won't work in future versions of DS.  

    The fancier shaders likely won't work properly in the present versions of DS. I say likely because I've not installed 4.24 without 3DL or any of the next version alphas.  

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  • vrba79vrba79 Posts: 1,548
    Daz3D really should delist that stuff.
  • mindsongmindsong Posts: 1,754

    If the price is right, I'll still pick up 3DL stuff - so I'd prefer if it were simply clearly marked with a 3DL specific disclaimer...

    kinda like old poser, bryce, and the occasional dawn items still woven into the site...

    2c,

    --ms

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 109,590

    DS still has the tools for converting the known 3Delight materials to Iray, so it is only custom shaders that will absolutely not carry over (as they have not all along).

  • Cam FoxCam Fox Posts: 382

    RIP, I just picked up that tutorial before seeing this thread. Going to keep it because it was deeply discounted & I do still use 3Delight.

    mindsong said:

    If the price is right, I'll still pick up 3DL stuff - so I'd prefer if it were simply clearly marked with a 3DL specific disclaimer...

    kinda like old poser, bryce, and the occasional dawn items still woven into the site...

    2c,

    --ms

    Same here! I'd like to see it categorized, but still want to be able to purchase it. Tons of products have Iray/3Delight materials bundled together as well.

  • Cam FoxCam Fox Posts: 382
    edited March 19

    Just skimmed through the tutorial and it's all still relevant, but introductory.

    You can use the Shader Mixer / Shader Builder in Daz Studio for Iray shaders too. https://www.youtube.com/watch/Gxr63NIwGNI?t=160

    The theory pertaining to shaders, overview of shader panels in Daz Studio, and adjusting shaders & textures on purchased assets is generally still relevant. They dig into the Shader Mixer / Shader Builder to create some examples as well. Video quality is passable but old, Daz Studio version they're working with ranges from 3.1 (mid 2011) to 4.6 Pro (late 2014)

    Post edited by Cam Fox on
  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 109,590

    Shader Builder was for compiling RSL code and will not be iin DS 6, Shader mixer is usable for both Iray and 3Delight and will still be present.

  • IceDragonArtIceDragonArt Posts: 12,972

    Cam Fox said:

    Just skimmed through the tutorial and it's all still relevant, but introductory.

    You can use the Shader Mixer / Shader Builder in Daz Studio for Iray shaders too. https://www.youtube.com/watch/Gxr63NIwGNI?t=160

    The theory pertaining to shaders, overview of shader panels in Daz Studio, and adjusting shaders & textures on purchased assets is generally still relevant. They dig into the Shader Mixer / Shader Builder to create some examples as well. Video quality is passable but old, Daz Studio version they're working with ranges from 3.1 (mid 2011) to 4.6 Pro (late 2014)

    Thanks!  I may still pick it up at some point.

  • Cam FoxCam Fox Posts: 382

    Richard Haseltine said:

    Shader Builder was for compiling RSL code and will not be iin DS 6, Shader mixer is usable for both Iray and 3Delight and will still be present.

    Good to know, thanks!

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