Is This Surface Master Tutorial still relevent?

IceDragonArt

https://www.daz3d.com/ds-surface-master-part-1 ; Would this still be useful given all the changes to Daz recently? Specifically the Alpha  version, although I believe changes have been made to how lighting works in 4.24 as well.  Not sure if the shader information is still valid either

nightwolf1982

I doubt it will be relevant for DAZ Studio 4.24, after 3delight was removed.  If you have an older version of DS from before 3delight was removed it might be helpful.

IceDragonArt

nightwolf1982 said:

I doubt it will be relevant for DAZ Studio 4.24, after 3delight was removed.  If you have an older version of DS from before 3delight was removed it might be helpful.

I was afraid of that.  don't know why the link all of a sudden doesn't work, its in the shop under one of the special categories for march madness.  

Torquinox

The link has some garbage on the end. That happens sometimes when sharing links in the forum.

https://www.daz3d.com/ds-surface-master-part-1

IceDragonArt

Thanks!

Cybersox

IceDragonArt said:

nightwolf1982 said:

I doubt it will be relevant for DAZ Studio 4.24, after 3delight was removed.  If you have an older version of DS from before 3delight was removed it might be helpful.

I was afraid of that.  don't know why the link all of a sudden doesn't work, its in the shop under one of the special categories for march madness.  

There's a lot of 3DL product still being hawked, which I would think would at least need a disclaimer on things like shaders stating that they probably won't work in future versions of DS.  

Torquinox

Cybersox said:

There's a lot of 3DL product still being hawked, which I would think would at least need a disclaimer on things like shaders stating that they probably won't work in future versions of DS.  

The fancier shaders likely won't work properly in the present versions of DS. I say likely because I've not installed 4.24 without 3DL or any of the next version alphas.  

vrba79

Daz3D really should delist that stuff.

mindsong

If the price is right, I'll still pick up 3DL stuff - so I'd prefer if it were simply clearly marked with a 3DL specific disclaimer...

kinda like old poser, bryce, and the occasional dawn items still woven into the site...

2c,

--ms

Richard Haseltine

DS still has the tools for converting the known 3Delight materials to Iray, so it is only custom shaders that will absolutely not carry over (as they have not all along).

Cam Fox

RIP, I just picked up that tutorial before seeing this thread. Going to keep it because it was deeply discounted & I do still use 3Delight.

mindsong said:

If the price is right, I'll still pick up 3DL stuff - so I'd prefer if it were simply clearly marked with a 3DL specific disclaimer...

kinda like old poser, bryce, and the occasional dawn items still woven into the site...

2c,

--ms

Same here! I'd like to see it categorized, but still want to be able to purchase it. Tons of products have Iray/3Delight materials bundled together as well.

Cam Fox

Just skimmed through the tutorial and it's all still relevant, but introductory.

You can use the Shader Mixer / Shader Builder in Daz Studio for Iray shaders too. https://www.youtube.com/watch/Gxr63NIwGNI?t=160

The theory pertaining to shaders, overview of shader panels in Daz Studio, and adjusting shaders & textures on purchased assets is generally still relevant. They dig into the Shader Mixer / Shader Builder to create some examples as well. Video quality is passable but old, Daz Studio version they're working with ranges from 3.1 (mid 2011) to 4.6 Pro (late 2014)

Richard Haseltine

Shader Builder was for compiling RSL code and will not be iin DS 6, Shader mixer is usable for both Iray and 3Delight and will still be present.

IceDragonArt

Cam Fox said:

Just skimmed through the tutorial and it's all still relevant, but introductory.

You can use the Shader Mixer / Shader Builder in Daz Studio for Iray shaders too. https://www.youtube.com/watch/Gxr63NIwGNI?t=160

The theory pertaining to shaders, overview of shader panels in Daz Studio, and adjusting shaders & textures on purchased assets is generally still relevant. They dig into the Shader Mixer / Shader Builder to create some examples as well. Video quality is passable but old, Daz Studio version they're working with ranges from 3.1 (mid 2011) to 4.6 Pro (late 2014)

Thanks!  I may still pick it up at some point.

Cam Fox

Richard Haseltine said:

Shader Builder was for compiling RSL code and will not be iin DS 6, Shader mixer is usable for both Iray and 3Delight and will still be present.

Good to know, thanks!