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@barry_white77, I don't think it matters what distro you choose. I know generally most things are geared toward Ubuntu, but I don't see anything in SveSop/nvidia-libs that's distro specific.
Just go with whichever one you like best.
The more Linux users bring it to their attention that yes, they are using Daz in Linux, the more likely they are to seriously consider adding official Linux support. "There's no point in speaking up" is self-defeating.
I agree; it's self defeating.
I think what we should all be asking for is not a native Linux version, but to employ some certification process that ensures that DS runs well under emulators and VMs. Maybe even work with the WINE project? That's not unprecedented, and I think w'ed be much more likely to get that...
I don't trust WINE because it has allowed Windows vunerabilities into the system,
I wonder if you can run WINE in a chroot?
Did a quick search and yes you can
Robert is showing an appropriate level of paranoia for this day and age. WINE already gives access to the filesystem with the permissions of the current user, and we do not know what WINE specific exploits exist in the wild. In the biz, what you are referring to is called "Security through obscurity" and it's a historical bad idea. Bad actors depend on your kind of "doubt". And even if you are super vigilant like Robert, you could still get hit by a Zero Day that even the experts didn't know about.
Had it on Ubuntu and Fedora several years ago and it let in two viruses one that affected the bios and one that locked up my hard drives
Really? Wow, ok. Guess I need to read more on the subject.
Robert Freise,
Thanks for raising that intersting note. I'm curious to hear more. Wine is a translation layer that runs in user space, not kernel space. So BIOS infection ... it would be interesting to hear the details of an exploit that broke that barrier. Did you run Wine back then as root or in sudo mode perhaps? In that case all bets are off.
Cheers!
Pretty sure it was sudo as that's the recommended and most secure way, I do remember that the one that locked access to my computer loaded up before the OS and put a message on my screen that said Your computer has been locked by and it gave a ridiculous sounding name but I don't recall what it was now The only way I could fix was to replace the BIOS
Robert Freise,
OK, if I understand you correctly, that sheds more light on the matter. Thanks for the clarification.
I've always run Wine while logged into Linux as a non-root user. I've never had reason to run Wine as root (the Linux administrator) or to use the 'sudo' command with it. Perhaps you needed to run a Windows command with Windows 10 administrator rights, and thought -- or found instructions asking you -- to do so using Wine combined with the 'sudo' command.
That is, were you, at any point in the past, running Windows applications within Linux using Wine in the following way (notepad.exe, as an example)?
$_linux_shell_prompt> sudo wine notepad.exe
Cheers!
Yep I never log in as root.
Rethinking I realized that it sounded like was runninig WINE under a super user account which wasn't the case, I blame a lack of afternoon coffee for that.
Don't use notepad I use Notepad ++, but don't use either one in Linux. May have run Winzip or Winrar under WINE back then but I don't recall for sure
I agree. To be honest, I don't even need official support. I just want them to make Daz Studio more Linux friendly. Fix whatever it is that stops DIM from saving my account info. Fix the input lag lots of us are having, or the OpenGL glitch where the viewport doesn't update until you mouse over it. There's other stuff that I can't even reacall right now.
Most Linux users know we aren't going to get official help with issues, whether it's productivity software, or gaming, and that's fine. I look at it this way; Valve doesn't support users disassembling thier Steam Decks, but they made a video showing how to do it correctly.
Exactly.
DAZ doesn't even have to support Linux directly. They could do small things to help the WINE team help us.
On the bright side, I've found that PCIe risers work perfectly well with DS. (I know that seemed obvious, but LM Studio wouldn't recognize the external card.)
And, as usual, the GPUs sip VRAM when they're not being used. I don't know why folks bother with that other OS
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But, I bought a 5060ti, and discovered that it won't work alongside my 1080ti. That hurts. That card cost more than a mortgage payment back in 2018.
I think this thread is about to get some more activity. Windows 11's process scheduler absolutely blows chunks -- when I'm doing a render, the machine becomes 100% unusable otherwise to the point where I have to wait for the render to finish, because the mouse doesn't move and it doesn't register my ESC to cancel a render. Windows 10 was slow but I could still use a web browser (and a couple xterms (cygwin)) while a render was running with no true difficulty. Given that Windows 12 -- whenever it gets here -- will 100% mandate a microsoft login and not honour any local accounts (and all that entails), I'm not thrilled about the prospect on staying on Windows, but in order to get away from Windows, I need to run Daz3d somewhere else (and I've already bought hardware so I don't want to pay for a Mac that behaves in the same insidious data-mining way that Windows does).
I'd LIKE to run this on WINE/NetBSD but saw mention of OpenCL / Vulkan drivers which never seem to get ports to anything except Linux (<seethe>). So, Linux it is. I'm hanging around to see how nicely I can get this to play once I have some time to fiddle about with it.
Given there WILL BE a large chunk of the tech population that will walk away from Windows, I do wish (while fully realising that there are three chances of it happening: slim, fat, and none) that there would be some consideration of building a Linux native version of Daz (also fully realising that it would have to be built to work on Debian-based and Dead-Rat-based systems; I'd be happy about a Debian one)...
Ha ha Dead-Rat... never heard that one before.
So, we're really not going to talk about how fricking awesome this DIY set up is?
I suppose it's stuck between the tower and the printer box, but the external GPU rack feels like a real life version of the XKCD drawing Dependency
Yep. FFMPEG.
I recommend Linux Mint. It's the one I use. It's stable, and is a great first distro for someone migrating from Windows. I've been using it since July and just encountered the first kink today (heck of a lot easier to diagnose than anything on Windows was). It's similar enough to feel familiar, while still allowing you to explore the wide, wild world of Linux. Fedora is good. I tried it, but it was a little wonky (that was in July, so the wonk I encountered has probably been worked out, and could easily have been caused by my mechanical setup at the time). It's definitely the wave of the future, so even if you choose not to use Fedora, keep an eye on it. Maybe start with Mint, then move to Fedora after a year. Whichever you choose, there are many tutorials on installation and use on YouTube. Just find a newer video made in the past year or two.
Anyone else having the issue of the update to Wine 10.19 Staging breaking nvlibs?
The update threw DAZ onto CPU, which is slow as molasses. Reinstalling nvlibs causes DAZ to give the error message "Cannot be run with elevated permissions."
I cannot find a method for dropping back to an older version of Wine. Is there one?
Nathanomir, I just tried DS 4.20 and Beta, and they both worked(on Mint 22.2)
Have you tried creating a separate Wine prefix and installing everything there?
According to Gamer's Nexus and Level1Techs, Bazzite is the most stable Linux version. It's the version that DN has decided to use as their testing basis for benchmarks due to that stability. That sounds promising to me.