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Thank you very much again for answering.
@memcneil70: just trying to get all my ducks in a row. How do I delete this alpha app if I decide I don't like it? Will it be in the DIM that's also going to be downloaded for the alpha app? IN OTHER WORDS, IS THERE AN UNINSTALL OPTION IN THAT OTHER DIM?
IF I Download any item for the alpha app, I'm guessing it just goes into the folders for all the other items. Is that correct? Would it be better to use the DAZ Studio 4 DIM to download any apps that I wish to keep?
You will get an uninstall option for the alpha in DIM, yes, just as with other content and applications.
Yes, but is this in the new DIM that will come along with the alpha version? I'm sorry, but I just wanna be super careful about this and basically know everything in advance about how to download it and then how to get rid of it without any problems if I decide I don't like it or if something happens that makes me think I've really gotta get rid of this.
What new DIM? DIM was updated some time back to be aware of this as a DS version (so that it knows which version a plug-in goes with etc.), but there is nothing in the new DS version that requires a change in how the installer works beyond that.
There's only one DIM, it enables you to install DS4 general version, DS4 beta and the DS2025 alpha.
Oh, well in the installer options for DS 2025, one of the things automatically checked there is the DIM. That's why I thought there would be a second DIM. I guess I should just uncheck that option, correct?
you see, I really do need a lot of input about this. What sort of a mess would I have gotten into if I had downloaded a second DIM?
There is a filter option to support thinmgs like product packages (allowing you to seelct the whole kit of parts in one go) which can be added to DIM, but those are not a new version of DIM.
You wouldn't install a second DIM; you would replace your DIM with a more uptodate version (which you should do anyway) that has the current settings. You won't hurt anything in any case. I had a job that partially involved managing 21 computers. For reasons I don't understand, people are really reticent with keeping their computers current and working so I had to force them to do the required updates. A new DIM doesn't change any of your settings. The Alpha does not interfere with either your DIM and your other Daz installations.
If you use DIM to download it will refuse to connect if it is not updated - if you use it purely as an installer, without going online, you may be able to wait, but risk its not handling some chnage in the manifests correctly or otherwise being thrown by an aspect of the update.
I really don't understand what you mean by some change in the manifests.
nor do I understand what you mean by being thrown by an aspect of the update.
These things that I don't understand, make me extremely hesitant about downloading anything.
when you say if you use DIM to download it will refuse to connect if it's not updated, I think you mean that if I don't keep DIM checked when I download studio, then somehow studio wouldn't start up.
I don't know how I would use DIM purely as an installer, without going online. but then, Imight be able to wait.
see I don't get any of this stuff.
Just use DIM the way you've been using it. Keep it checked. When a DIM update comes out, it will let you know and it'll automatically update itself, just like it's done every other time you've updated it.
Right, if you are using DIM to download files you have been updating it - and there isn't a new update tied to DS 2025.
Richard, I can't remember the proper name of it, but what is the name of the Content package that @inquire should look for that supports the Alpha? I know it didn't show up automatically for many of us at first, though it does now when there is an update.
They all have Public Build +Alpha+ in the name. Daz Studio 2025 (6.x) needs to be checked in the Download Filters list (button at top-left of the ready to Download tab).
Thanks, of course you are right. I had to shut down early yesterday as we had an 'energy action day' with lowered electrical consumption from 4pm to 8pm. So I totally unplug my systems or turn off their surge protectors.
Here is what is available, in the four files that I'm attaching, in the DIM if I click to get the alpha version of DAZ Studio. Is there anything here that I should uncheck? Notice that the DIM there is checked. Should I uncheck that? Is there anything else that I should check?
Once again, I got a crash with studio version four, running in Rosetta 2, with my Mac studio, which has sequoia 15.5. I was trying to apply an M3 bone minion to a G9 character. There was an immediate crash. I tried to upload this as a separate file. That's not working. So here is what I have. Maybe someone can figure out just what is going on. Nope, the file type is not allowed. When I try to paste, the log Fial in, it said the document is too long. All these rules I guess I just don't know how to communicate.
Any script can crash on the MacOS version, the 'best' way to use them is the following:
1. save your scene before launching a script.
2. If the script did crash Daz Studio, relaunch Daz Studio then load the bare minimum to check if the script will crash or not (so in your case, the fastest way is to load a 'Genesis 9 Dev' figure).
3. To the second step as long as Daz Studio is crashing when you're launching that script.
At one point (which can take a while to reach :/), you should be able to launch the script and the good new is as far as I know, once a script was launched without Daz Studio crashing, that script will not crash, as long as you're not closing Daz Studio (I don't know if other scripts will work flawlessly or not).
Once Daz Studio is closed, the same song and dance of DS crashing can begin anew.
I did manage to send the log file to the vendor, the creator of Bone minion. Hopefully he will be able to analyze it and know what is going on. I sent it through the inbox, and I did not get a messages too long error as I did here in this forum.
RiversoftArt is very good about responding and is active on his Commercial Threads. But as Elor said, saving is critical, especially with working in scripts or anything else. I also find that if I have been on my MacMini M4 for a long period, I am better off saving, closing and rebooting to clear my system. Works for my Window computers too.
Has anyone looked over those four files that I uploaded yesterday showing things that are checked if I were to download the alpha? I think there are a couple of things that should not be checked. I just wanted to show the default. So I'm still thinking of downloading the alpha. I'm waiting until I get some clear statements about uncheck this or also check that.
Okay I just looked at them. I don't use DAZ Connect at all. But if you are DAZ Premier I am not sure if you have to have it checked for your Premier downloads. All I know is DAZ Connect has totally messed up my Smart Content too many times for me to trust it. And I never sign in. Depending on how old your content is you may need to have DAZ 4 ticked. I have one pair of shoes that I needed it for! Could not download it until I ticked that. But if you only have newer content, you look okay.
Do you have Poser installed? Or do you buy Poser content to use in DAZ? I am not sure if you need both ticked. Depends on version and how old your content is? I don't have Poser installed, but I do use Poser content in DAZ and have them ticked. I am also converting that content gradually to DAZ formats and Iray. Thanks to Totte's scripts and my DS 4.24.0.3. along with old DAZ formats.
(I may be offline in the afternoons/evenings due to extreme weather we are having this monsoon season. So I am not checking DAZ even on my iPad.)
Mary
@memcnneil70: thank you so much for answering and for the information and support that you supply.
I have a big problem with DS app login. I am on a 2018 Mac Mini Sequoia 15.5. Everything worked OK about a week ago. Since then my OS was updated and I am wondering if that has caused the problem.
Does anyone use DS on Sequior v 15.5?
See link below for details of the problems and attempted fixes.
ds-4-2-problem-with-postgresql-not-connected
I went up a notch to Sequoia 15.6 a couple of days ago, and now when I try clicking on a character in the viewport, nothing gets selected. If I go into the scene tab and open up the character, I can click on various parts. For DS, I'm using version 4.24.0.3.
So I'm thinking of uninstalling and reinstalling DS just to see if that might make a difference. If I uninstall, do I then have to find the files in the manifest and delete them myself? Or would uninstall and reinstall by themselves take care of removing old files and bringing in new ones?
Also, in terms of bone minion not working, but instead crashing DS, do you think that uninstalling and then reinstalling those scripts would take care of that or are others having similar problems with bone minion or with other scripts? From what's been said, I think that it's just something about the current version of DS. I'm using 4.23.0.something.
Before I started to work this afternoon, I installed Sequoia 15.6 on my MacMiniPro M4 and then proceeded to setup and render a character without noticing any issues.
@inquire, remember to click on the mouse's right button. Be sure to follow the steps I outlined for you in the Bone Minion thread. And what I have to remember for myself if it has been any length of time between uses, go over the manual again. And that is true for any script I buy, to be sure I have the steps correct in my head. I also try to keep up with their threads, just incase an issue has come up and the PA is working on a fix already.
But what you might do, in DIM, sort the Download Tab by Package Date and see if an update was released that you might have missed. I do that periodically for all my products. For whatever reason, some items fail to show up in the update section.
@memcneil70: well, if I do decide to uninstall and then reinstall DS, Do I have to locate the files and download them myself manually? Or will just be uninstall and reinstall take care of that?
Just use DIM. Uninstall, and if you are worried your package is corrupted, when it is back in the 'Ready to Install' tab, delete or refresh the package. Regardless if it gets to the 'Ready to Download' tab just click to install from there.
(Sorry about the delay, but weather is an issue at this time of year. I often just shut down all my computers so I don't have to worry about a rush to shut down when we get surprised when a thunderstorm actually does show-up when forecasted, instead of going south or north of us.)