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VWD in Carrara - installation and updates

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  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,388

    Wish I could help.  I don't even have VWD properly installed on my main machine anymore.  Just could not get it working reliably.  I have it on my old laptop because the install is so old, but that has other problems.

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 10,385

    Diomede said:

    Wish I could help.  I don't even have VWD properly installed on my main machine anymore.  Just could not get it working reliably.  I have it on my old laptop because the install is so old, but that has other problems.

     

    thanks Ted,

    Not to worry. The beauty of doing 3d printing is you don't have to worry about uvcoordinates so I guess I can just fudge a fit with sculpting tools :)

    Push pull grab pray. :)

    VWD used to work very well, a shame.

    I even tried poser cloth room the other day, I went to another solar system by pushbike (no gears and peddling backwards)  while it was doing two drape frames.... 

    Hope you are well!!

     

     

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 39,995

    on the bright side, I have not tested it as don't have Poser installed but since unlike Poser cloth it creates morphs along the timeline, you shouldn't need the Dyn2Morph script to load the pz3 scene into Carrara

    so later Poser with Python 3 shouldn't be an issue

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,388

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    ... I have not tested it as don't have Poser installed but....

    Oh, I wonder if the reason my VWD stopped working on my main machine because I uninstalled Poser.  I thought you could use it independently, but I may have installed it improperly to do so.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 39,995

    Diomede said:

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    ... I have not tested it as don't have Poser installed but....

    Oh, I wonder if the reason my VWD stopped working on my main machine because I uninstalled Poser.  I thought you could use it independently, but I may have installed it improperly to do so.

    I had it working on my Win7 without Poser 

    it still works there but have Poser7 on that rig now too

    it's Philemo's bridge that won't work for me on Win10, throws an error opening Carrara if extension added

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 10,385
    edited June 25

    Hmm anyone working with this successfully ? Still works in poser, but i get errors in carrara

     

    . Tried a few versions. If I don't get an error in carrara then nothing moves in the sim. 

     

    Using short file names and simple meshes 

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 39,995

    only on my Win7

    actually got the extension working on my Win10 too using a separate beta version of Carrara (minimal plugins) now but VWD itself freezes mid sim and never responds again

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 10,385
    edited June 25

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    only on my Win7

    actually got the extension working on my Win10 too using a separate beta version of Carrara (minimal plugins) now but VWD itself freezes mid sim and never responds again

    Thank you Wendy. I have a feeling it worked once on poser then stopped after another go in the same session.  Maybe there-in doth lie a clue. I am using win 10. Perhaps python has been updated and causes the problem. 

     

    Edut from the other place: Installed Python 2.7.11 however CarraraVWDBridge failed on input of VWD location (tried having VWD in C:VWD and ...RuntimePythonposerscriptsVWD). Installed Python 2.7.12 and it appears to have fixed that problem. Now able to save VWD location and start VWD from Carrara. (Windows10 x64)

     

    and 

    The fact that you have a suffixed object created means that the dress has been exported and reimported in Carrara. The message is from VWD. Objects have to be visible to be exported (same in Poser and Studio). After the first export, the original dress is hidden and the copy is visible. If you redo one without hidding or deleting the copy and making the original visible again, it won't work.

     

    But all that doesn't account for the first export that should have worked. I had that kind of error when:

     

    the export takes too long. Most of the time, this is due to the "merge vertices" option checked with a high number of vertices.

    The obj file is locked. You may have to cleanup the exchange directory (there is an option in VWD Utilities menu).

    Carrara crashed somewhere in the process. that hasn't happened to me for a long time.

    Hope that helps

     

    Philemo

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  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 10,385
    edited June 25

    mindsong said:

    I believe I had to return my Carrara tmp dir back to its default for VWD to work as well.

    Philemo, pleased to see you are well. We were worried for your well being, and happy you are fine and able to rejoin us!

    cheers!

    --ms

    Anyone know what  returning tmp directory back to its default means? 

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 39,995

    unfortunately I am ignorant of the technical stuff

    it either works or doesn't 

    since it works on my Win7 machine I use it there and don't poke around too much in case it breaks surprise

    no idea why

    scared that PC will die one day, it has hardware issues 

    I expect the drive to just fail one day and it's not worth replacing 

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 10,385

    I expect the drive to just fail one day and it's not worth replacing 

     

    always worth replacing if it runs carrara :)

     

    thanks for your reply, must be cold in melbourne, it's like a fridge here 

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 10,385

    hmm I am running python 2.7 

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 10,385
    edited June 26

    newest version of python still gives a divide by zero error,

    edit sorry newest version pyton crashes vwd bridge

    vwd documentation says 2.7 so will try 2.7.12

     

    edit  2.7.12 works with bridges but still divide by zero error in vwd

    i think i will give up

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 39,995

    Adelaide, yeah chilly but was worse a couple weeks ago

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 10,385

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    Adelaide, yeah chilly but was worse a couple weeks ago

    Sorry, i thought you had a funny adeladian accent too

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 10,385
    edited June 26

    Hmm, had another play this arvo and it worked

    Ran clergy cassock over m4 in poser 11, using the first VWD version (later version ov VWD did nothing I think?)

    Then did the same in Carrara with original vwd on M4 as collison, clergy cassock as cloth - worked fine!

    On a hunch put in two vertex spheres in carrara and used one as collision and one as cloth - worked fine.

    The two speheres didnt work this morning though.

    Only thing I have done differently is run it through poser first.... then fire up carrara.

     

    still works though I have closed poser - maybe a coincidence...

     

     

     

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  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 10,385
    edited June 29

    NBV unticking used GPU seemed to fix the latest version. GPU gets ticked again the next time you run it I think, so keep that in mind. The other fix might have been running an old version firts, then the new one - but probably nothing to do with anything. I also deleted a whole lot of old files in one subdirectory for VWD - don't think this did anything. 

     

     

    edit: and the way to save the morphed/clothed  mesh out as an obj is to go to the vertex room, select frame 1 (in this case) and then click 'save' and you can save it as a car file or an obj file etc

     

    may contain images of a man with a big nose standing in a forest where all the trees look like giant tadpoles with no legs and bad breath

     

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/133641/dynamic-clothing/p6#Comment_1966681

    This is Gooood thread https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/218511/help-from-anyone-please-with-vwdcloth-experience?srsltid=AfmBOopNQdX3x_t5D889GBMWP28fIiu-LS7xaIXUF2BT2PAfZ2OuHDkm

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/98766/dynamic-cloth-related-carrara-plugins-best-practices-tips-and-renders

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  • 3Deedlin3Deedlin Posts: 161
    Headwax said:

    mindsong said:

    I believe I had to return my Carrara tmp dir back to its default for VWD to work as well.

    Philemo, pleased to see you are well. We were worried for your well being, and happy you are fine and able to rejoin us!

    cheers!

    --ms

    Anyone know what  returning tmp directory back to its default means? 

    I would read that as a path directory was changed or it's state.Don't have C available,but if they are referring to a scratchdisk setting that could mean the size allocated.
  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 10,385

    thanks 3deedlin. will chieck it out.

     

    have both versions of vwd running now, thankfully.

    untick use gpu was the trick

  • 3Deedlin3Deedlin Posts: 161
    Headwax said:

    thanks 3deedlin. will chieck it out.

     

    have both versions of vwd running now, thankfully.

    untick use gpu was the trick

    Was is using gpu on the previous version?
  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 39,995

    Headwax said:

    thanks 3deedlin. will chieck it out.

     

    have both versions of vwd running now, thankfully.

    untick use gpu was the trick

    oh, I have no GPU on my Win7 only integrated graphics

    maybe THAT's the reason it works there surprise

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 10,385

    3deedlin said:

    Headwax said:

    thanks 3deedlin. will chieck it out.

     

    have both versions of vwd running now, thankfully.

    untick use gpu was the trick

    Was is using gpu on the previous version?
     

    yep you are right, n0  gpu on first version! 

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 10,385

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    Headwax said:

    thanks 3deedlin. will chieck it out.

     

    have both versions of vwd running now, thankfully.

    untick use gpu was the trick

    oh, I have no GPU on my Win7 only integrated graphics

    maybe THAT's the reason it works there surprise

     

    I think you have hit the forehead

     on the nail!

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 10,385
    edited June 30

    hmm out of interest I managed to get the vwd draped obj out of an animation by converting it to a primitive then exporting it as an obj, else you just get the original undraped obj 

    working up 3d print after sculpting mesh withe blender and meshmixer  - making a ship of fools 

    figure on left is after drape by vwd - not perfect but fun 

     

     

     

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 39,995

    FBX should include the morphs along the timeline

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 10,385

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    FBX should include the morphs along the timeline

    thanks I'll check , carrara just crashed and i lost the scene 

  • Bunyip02Bunyip02 Posts: 9,224

    Headwax said:

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    FBX should include the morphs along the timeline

    thanks I'll check , carrara just crashed and i lost the scene 

    What a PITA !!!

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 10,385

    Bunyip02 said:

    Headwax said:

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    FBX should include the morphs along the timeline

    thanks I'll check , carrara just crashed and i lost the scene 

    What a PITA !!!

    Ha ha yes, I am doing a ship of fools on my 3d printer, a cast of thousands, well about 11 , have no idea where they will all fit, but that's the fun .... I think. 

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 39,995

    I don't own the version that uses the GPU

    I did not buy the later version because the trial didn't work for me on Win10 either and the original works on Win7

    That said I am giving it another go changing some settings and first go worked

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 10,385

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    I don't own the version that uses the GPU

    I did not buy the later version because the trial didn't work for me on Win10 either and the original works on Win7

    That said I am giving it another go changing some settings and first go worked

    good news, i think it is a randomme beaste 

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