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  • SimonJMSimonJM Posts: 6,067

    My test renders complete blisteringly fast.  Mainly because it keeps telling me it can't render an empty scene! Hopefully because I forgot to upgrade Luxrender ...!  Be nice for Reality to "*cough cough* 'scuse me squire, but ..."

  • Jim_1831252Jim_1831252 Posts: 728

    Did you kill old Reality first? Apparently that works for a lot of people having this problem.

  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,653
    edited September 2015

    I removed all the files but have to able to d/l it 1st to see. Im glad we have a second option just in case we have to wait some issues to get resolved..

    Post edited by Bobvan on
  • morkmork Posts: 278
    edited September 2015
    mtl1 said:
     
    Bobvan said:

    Dont forget to mention that one's render re starts from 0 when one makes an adjustment. There seems to be no hurry in resolving this..

     

    Isn't that LuxRender's issue and not Reality 4.1? At any rate, I've never had an issue with that even with the old Luxrender and 4.0... or do you mean adjustments with materials, etc? 

    He was talking about IRay I think. Can't change those tonemapping settings without the render restarting from scratch. This is different in Lux and I don't want to miss this feature again, really.

    einar33_891261a091 said:

    Well, so far no go - my Reality 4.1 can only render using CPU apparently.. Sure it does seem faster than the previous version, but f that if it can't take advantage of my Titan X.

    When I chose GPU (and it correctly identifies the Titan as OpenCL 1.2) it just opens the scene and starts rendering nothing (also says 0 devices).

    I guess I have just been getting used to Iray "just delivering"..

    Don't know about Reality 4.1 yet, but in Reality 4.0 there was also another option where you actually had to enable the GPU for rendering in GPU mode at least once.
    It will still allow you to render in GPU mode without having chosen one, at least it did for me.
    It's on the "Render" tab, "Acceleration", and there to the right "GPUs enabled". Check that at least one of those checkboxes is ticked.
    Also only "Mono-Directional" ("Render" tab, "Scene configuration", "Type" dropdown) will work (not sure about photon mapping anymore), it won't lock away the other options when you go GPU only, so check you didn't change this.
    Then, if it all does not work, there is this "OpenCL Group size" thing for NVidia. Let me quote you the FAQ:

    LuxRender's log does not show my GPU as being found, even though I have a supported card

    By default, LuxRender will target OpenCL platform "0". While this is probably the platform that contains your graphics card, it may not be. You can try increasing the OpenCL Platform setting in the exporter/scene file by 1 until the graphics card is used.

    Maybe something of this helps. Good Luck! :)

    Post edited by mork on
  • DekeDeke Posts: 1,636

    So folks are buying Reality from Paolo's site and not the Daz Store? Is it cheaper from Paolo than Daz? Or when buying from Daz are you sent to the same overloaded site?

  • morkmork Posts: 278
    edited September 2015
    Deke said:

    So folks are buying Reality from Paolo's site and not the Daz Store? Is it cheaper from Paolo than Daz? Or when buying from Daz are you sent to the same overloaded site?

    When you buy it here, you get to download it here, from a DAZ server. But you need to register the version on their website, so you're screwed either way right now I think. :|

    Edit: clarification

    Post edited by mork on
  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604

    When you buy anytjhing from DAZ 3D , you then download it through the Daz servers, and you get the Daz 3D money back guarantee.

  • Jim_1831252Jim_1831252 Posts: 728

    @Deke I guess some people are buying the full thing from Preta directly, but most would be getting the discount for the upgrade at Preta-3D.

  • Jim_1831252Jim_1831252 Posts: 728
    mork said:
    Deke said:

    So folks are buying Reality from Paolo's site and not the Daz Store? Is it cheaper from Paolo than Daz? Or when buying from Daz are you sent to the same overloaded site?

    You get to download it here, from a DAZ server. But you need to register the version on their website, so you're screwed either way right now I think. :|

     

    Oh, yuck! I thought you got your key from the vendor you purchase from. I guess that better explains what we are seeing.

  • talihawktalihawk Posts: 86

    Finally managed to down load and install Reality 4.1 It's working but it's doing something odd when I cpu boost it. It starts rendering in squares just like 3delight does. I don't recall seeing it doing that in the demo. Do we have to change something in the settings?

  • SimonJMSimonJM Posts: 6,067
    edited September 2015
    Jim said:

    Did you kill old Reality first? Apparently that works for a lot of people having this problem.

    I did so soon after as I remembered how (I'm sorry to say this!) rubbish the installer is.  It (still) adds a silent directory level on so I had a nested install structure.  Deleted the nesting and re-installed and the same thing.  I also wish like hell I could use the Luxrender I installed in the location I chose.  Off to the official forums I guess to see what the heck is happening.

    Post edited by SimonJM on
  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,533
    edited September 2015
    Chohole said:

    When you buy anytjhing from DAZ 3D , you then download it through the Daz servers, and you get the Daz 3D money back guarantee.

     

    I don't think you get the money back guarantee as its in the PA sale?

     

    Post edited by scorpio on
  • nDelphinDelphi Posts: 1,920
    edited September 2015

    Some of use bought Reality here on DAZ 3D when it was first introduced, but when it left the store we had to continue receiving upgrades at Preta3D. So we get our free and discounted upgrades at Preta3D.

    Post edited by nDelphi on
  • Apothis68Apothis68 Posts: 25
    SimonJM said:
    Jim said:

    Did you kill old Reality first? Apparently that works for a lot of people having this problem.

    I did so soon after as I remembered how (I'm sorry to say this!) rubbish the installer is.  It (still) adds a silent directory level on so I had a nested install structure.  Deleted the nesting and re-installed and the same thing.  I also wish like hell I could use the Luxrender I installed in the location I chose.  Off to the official forums I guess to see what the heck is happening.

    Reality now uses its own version of lux which it installs for you, not a standalone version

  • Jim_1831252Jim_1831252 Posts: 728

    I finally got to enter my serial and order numbers

    >>

    >>>

    >>>>

    Database Error

    Conclusion: Site is a troll

  • Apothis68Apothis68 Posts: 25
    mork said:
    mtl1 said:
     
    Bobvan said:

    Dont forget to mention that one's render re starts from 0 when one makes an adjustment. There seems to be no hurry in resolving this..

     

    Isn't that LuxRender's issue and not Reality 4.1? At any rate, I've never had an issue with that even with the old Luxrender and 4.0... or do you mean adjustments with materials, etc? 

    He was talking about IRay I think. Can't change those tonemapping settings without the render restarting from scratch. This is different in Lux and I don't want to miss this feature again, really.

    einar33_891261a091 said:

    Well, so far no go - my Reality 4.1 can only render using CPU apparently.. Sure it does seem faster than the previous version, but f that if it can't take advantage of my Titan X.

    When I chose GPU (and it correctly identifies the Titan as OpenCL 1.2) it just opens the scene and starts rendering nothing (also says 0 devices).

    I guess I have just been getting used to Iray "just delivering"..

    Don't know about Reality 4.1 yet, but in Reality 4.0 there was also another option where you actually had to enable the GPU for rendering in GPU mode at least once.
    It will still allow you to render in GPU mode without having chosen one, at least it did for me.
    It's on the "Render" tab, "Acceleration", and there to the right "GPUs enabled". Check that at least one of those checkboxes is ticked.
    Also only "Mono-Directional" ("Render" tab, "Scene configuration", "Type" dropdown) will work (not sure about photon mapping anymore), it won't lock away the other options when you go GPU only, so check you didn't change this.
    Then, if it all does not work, there is this "OpenCL Group size" thing for NVidia. Let me quote you the FAQ:

    LuxRender's log does not show my GPU as being found, even though I have a supported card

    By default, LuxRender will target OpenCL platform "0". While this is probably the platform that contains your graphics card, it may not be. You can try increasing the OpenCL Platform setting in the exporter/scene file by 1 until the graphics card is used.

    Maybe something of this helps. Good Luck! :)

    Its all changed pretty much completely now :)

  • Aqualad07Aqualad07 Posts: 45

    Same here, I downloaded from Daz and installed but can not register reality 4.1, I get the "Can not connect to the database" message.  I will try again later.

  • StratDragonStratDragon Posts: 3,273
    Aqualad07 said:

    Same here, I downloaded from Daz and installed but can not register reality 4.1, I get the "Can not connect to the database" message.  I will try again later.

    if the Daz3d purchases of R4 need to go through the preta3d site to register that site is getting overwhelmed right now.

    Paolo said he was allowing more connections but I've been getting dbase errors since about 8:00 AM EST with sporadic connectivity. 

  • Ghosty12Ghosty12 Posts: 2,080
    StratDragon said:
    Aqualad07 said:

    Same here, I downloaded from Daz and installed but can not register reality 4.1, I get the "Can not connect to the database" message.  I will try again later.

    if the Daz3d purchases of R4 need to go through the preta3d site to register that site is getting overwhelmed right now.

    Paolo said he was allowing more connections but I've been getting dbase errors since about 8:00 AM EST with sporadic connectivity. 

    Yeah I just tried, weird been using it for ages and now decides it needs registering so of course I register and what do you know, can't connect..

  • Aqualad07Aqualad07 Posts: 45
    StratDragon said:
    Aqualad07 said:

    Same here, I downloaded from Daz and installed but can not register reality 4.1, I get the "Can not connect to the database" message.  I will try again later.

    if the Daz3d purchases of R4 need to go through the preta3d site to register that site is getting overwhelmed right now.

    Paolo said he was allowing more connections but I've been getting dbase errors since about 8:00 AM EST with sporadic connectivity. 

    Thanks for the information !!  Sounds like it may be tomorrow before I will be able to register.

     

  • Ghosty12Ghosty12 Posts: 2,080
    StratDragon said:
    Aqualad07 said:

    Same here, I downloaded from Daz and installed but can not register reality 4.1, I get the "Can not connect to the database" message.  I will try again later.

    if the Daz3d purchases of R4 need to go through the preta3d site to register that site is getting overwhelmed right now.

    Paolo said he was allowing more connections but I've been getting dbase errors since about 8:00 AM EST with sporadic connectivity. 

    Try now I managed to get my copy registered.. :)

  • StratDragonStratDragon Posts: 3,273
    edited September 2015
    Aqualad07 said:
    StratDragon said:
    Aqualad07 said:

    Same here, I downloaded from Daz and installed but can not register reality 4.1, I get the "Can not connect to the database" message.  I will try again later.

    if the Daz3d purchases of R4 need to go through the preta3d site to register that site is getting overwhelmed right now.

    Paolo said he was allowing more connections but I've been getting dbase errors since about 8:00 AM EST with sporadic connectivity. 

    Thanks for the information !!  Sounds like it may be tomorrow before I will be able to register.

     

    yes, it's frustrating but I asked if he'd post the RUG for 4.1 elsewhere for those of us who want to study in the mean time.

    https://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/p...sers_Guide.pdf

    Post edited by StratDragon on
  • WandererWanderer Posts: 957

    Frazzle.... thought I could get my update from the store I purchased it from, even though they finally updated the product information, that file, when I download and install, is still just installing the 4.0 version. Been trying all day to get my update through preta website. Finally got the page in the email link to open, entered my details, and at first it lost connection, but refreshing eventually got through. It says "Error establishing a database connection" but eventually starting downloading the file anyway. Hopefully I'll be able to activate offline using the key he sent me when I bought 4.0. We'll see. Good luck again everybody.

     

     

     

  • Jim_1831252Jim_1831252 Posts: 728
    ghosty12 said:
    StratDragon said:
    Aqualad07 said:

    Same here, I downloaded from Daz and installed but can not register reality 4.1, I get the "Can not connect to the database" message.  I will try again later.

    if the Daz3d purchases of R4 need to go through the preta3d site to register that site is getting overwhelmed right now.

    Paolo said he was allowing more connections but I've been getting dbase errors since about 8:00 AM EST with sporadic connectivity. 

    Try now I managed to get my copy registered.. :)

    You made it worse :D

  • Aqualad07Aqualad07 Posts: 45
    StratDragon said:
    Aqualad07 said:

    Same here, I downloaded from Daz and installed but can not register reality 4.1, I get the "Can not connect to the database" message.  I will try again later.

    if the Daz3d purchases of R4 need to go through the preta3d site to register that site is getting overwhelmed right now.

    Paolo said he was allowing more connections but I've been getting dbase errors since about 8:00 AM EST with sporadic connectivity. 

    Thanks for the information !!  Sounds like it may be tomorrow before I will be able to register.

     

    ghosty12 said:
    StratDragon said:
    Aqualad07 said:

    Same here, I downloaded from Daz and installed but can not register reality 4.1, I get the "Can not connect to the database" message.  I will try again later.

    if the Daz3d purchases of R4 need to go through the preta3d site to register that site is getting overwhelmed right now.

    Paolo said he was allowing more connections but I've been getting dbase errors since about 8:00 AM EST with sporadic connectivity. 

    Try now I managed to get my copy registered.. :)

    I did get it registered and reality works but I keep getting messages that luxconsole.exe and then luxrender.exe stopped working...UGH!!

  • EmotionalOutlet3DEmotionalOutlet3D Posts: 243

    I bought Reality 4 from DAZ originally and have downloaded the 4.1 update from my product library but not entirely sure if you install 4.1 without uninstalling 4.0 first?  I've read through the installation instructions but it doesn't cover that question ..  Also do you upgrade Luxrender, remove it or what?  No big hurry on the answer as it doesn't look like I'll be able to register 4.1 in the near future until the preta3d site gets less traffic.  :(

  • Jim_1831252Jim_1831252 Posts: 728

    @EmotionalOutlet From what I've read it is safest to remove Reality 4 first. You can leave your old Lux though (or get rid of it - up to you), as Reality will only call the version it comes with.

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

    I'm looking forward to trying, but I can wait.

  • WandererWanderer Posts: 957

    The file I got from preta3d appears to be corrupted. I open it and it fails to do anything. Too bad.

  • morkmork Posts: 278
    edited September 2015

    meh, almost completed download aaaaand....download failed. But the manual is still a good read. :)
    Learned that SSS does not work with OpenCL...and I was wondering about the bad SSS in my renders all the time, which actually never existed... :-/

    Post edited by mork on
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