Concerned and I feel I need to say this...
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Yes, there are many other items from the generation6 line that would also work, tho probably not so recognizable to so many as not being a generation 7 item.
As for the rest, that is why I shy away from having any children in almost all of my renders. It's simply something that is guaranteed to raise strong discontent by somebody somewhere, regardless of the scene.
Agreed
I have seen much less 'conservative' clothing on children much younger than 12. Unfortunately in the USA, many mothers try to live through their children and have zero common sense.
In the case of promos, this is a 3D figure people are trying to apply "real world" morals to. She isn't real. Her mommy isn't sending her out to a park like that. I think sometimes we have a tendency to forget - 3D isn't "real", no matter how good the render. People who are going to think those things about a minor, are going to do it is they are in a snow suit and parka. I see absolutely nothing wrong with the promos. They are very well done.
The problem is the poses. Why not show her playing soccer or baseball, or making a crazy face at the camera closeup like 12 year old would do.... not these suggestive model poses of her pushing her chest out or gazing at a closeup camera.
Must be a cultural thing. I looked at the promos and found nothing wrong with the tops. I'm German and see girls of that aged dressed like this in summer over here and no one even blinks. So I don't understand this kind of concern at all.
I'm a middle aged male from Georgia, USA and the promo pics look normal to me. When I saw the pics my first thought was: Boring, a child character. She's well done, no offense to the creators at all, but child figures aren't what I'm interested in rendering.
Strangely, I live by the beach here in the U.S. and I don't see 12-year old girls wearing skimpy clothing around except swimsuits at the beach. And, I have 2 sons that age, so I'm around girls that age very often. Believe me: I would notice!! T-shirts and basic tank tops with shorts are the norm down here.
The swimming top is far too small. One raise of her arms would show her nips. I live in a huge, oceanfront, southern, vacation town. Mothers around here would offer her a towel, or possibly call over a lifeguard. Our lifeguards are also cops and would I'm sure, ask the mom to cover her. This is a family beach, and kids need to look more like adults before they could wear something so skimpy. There ARE kid bikinis around here, but the tops and bottoms have far more coverage.
I just want the OP to know they are not alone.
As for the creator, she is a very nice character. Congrats! However, as a person who wants to sell her, having even a small portion of your potential clients being uncomfortable with the promo images can't help sales..... just saying.
I think this was meant to be a helpful thread. Peace y'all. ;-)
Oh I didn´t even notice that gypsy top.
Well, yes that top was made for an adult G2F and was meant to be for an oriental dancer.
Although it might be a little out of place and its not definitely an everyday wear for children I think the artist may not have had any other appropriate clothing that would fit this morph well so they decided to use this one.
Also I noticed, they added a bra under the top in one of the promos but not in the main one. Maybe they forgot.
I really dont think there were any bad intentions to misrepresent her.
I lived in the woods, Jumping in streams or lakes, the general method was to use underwear. Given that she's pre-bra, she's way more covered than I would've been.
More seriously I find the gypsy dancer autofit one far more risque (not that I find either particularly objectionable), purely because of the pose with cocked hip, the bathing suit one on the other hand she's holding a beach-ball in a pose that looks like a kid holding a beach-ball. I could see the complaint If she were posed in a sexualized manner, but as it is I don't get it.
Yes, but would you have been comfortable appearing like that on a website that gets millions of hits? Would your mother have been comfortable letting you appear like that?
This sort of thing seems to happen every time a new young character comes out. Remember the controversy over the Young Teen Julie promo images?
http://www.daz3d.com/young-teens-5-julie
A picture says more .......
Hahahahaha, come on people, it's just a morphable figure 3d file, with no real age, come on!! :-/
I really do understand where your concerns are coming from, however there are a couple of faults with your reasoning.
Say the promo images correct and acceptable, upon buying the character and loading it into Daz, she will be fully nude!
No clothing no censoring of any sort, given your objection to the promo images should Daz also implement a Sim's style sensor bar for anything but adult morphed characters?
I didn't really have any issues with her promos. It was done tastefully, with plenty of coverage and her pose was in no way sexualised. Given that these days most of the young girls in my area are running around in tiny shorts and mid-drift shirts (not even kidding, there were at least 4 such pre-teen girls out enjoying the sun in such clothing), this is considerably more modest than the outfits kids seem to be wearing these days.
I can understand why some people may be concerned, but I personally feel they're playing it fairly safe with these promos.
Out of interest though, in one of the promos Skyler is wearing a blue shiny top. Does anyone know where that's from?
It is from our Charlize for G2F product. The arm straps were hidden and an iray metallic car paint shader was applied. http://www.daz3d.com/charlize-for-genesis-2-female-accessories
Don't know where you live ROTU, but I think, the promos shows just todays reality. Most girls in that age want to look like young adults. You should also respect, that not any vendor at DAZ or in other stores is an American. Some artists come from other countries with different views about different things. If she was dressed like a little cowgirl with a gun in her hand (which could kill people) that would be okay to you?
Nearly every second clothing item for the female chcarcters, that one can buy here or in other stors is something that looks more or less sexy like Bikini's, Lingerie, underwear etc.
So what should this G2M-based charcter wear, when you don't find any clothing that match her age? We coustomers are the one who buy always this sexy clothings and as long as we buy it, nothing will be changed. Skylar is a nice girl, but she will never sell enough copies that any vendor will jump on to make clothes for her.
...I was more bothered by the Amazing Skins "cover" promo that had Belle wearing the Grecian Goddess Outfit. I know it is important to show off the skin map details, but a more "conventional" 2 pc. swimsuit would have worked. Even Teen Julie in her undies is less revealing.
I start by saying that I am not making a personal attack on anyone here, I am stating my opinion.
There are people who advocate that everyone must be covered from head to foot with just a slit for the eyes, and there are other people that would draw the line elsewhere.
What many of these people have in common is that they say that we should all restrict ourselves to what they are comfortable with.
I am uncomfortable around scenes of gross violence, gore, horror etc. However, I do not tell others that they have no right to create such scenes because of my discomfort, I simply stay away.
I am deeply uncomfortable around the way that some people assume that their views carry the moral high ground, and that anyone voicing a contrary opinion is in some way morally inferior, or has no right to such views. This is a slippery slope, and could lead to the end of free speech altogether, even if this is not what was originally intended.
I believe that if you don't like something, then don't look at it, and leave others to make their own judgements.
Yeah but then she's yours to do with as you see fit. I still think she only looks 7-9 years old too. That's one of my issues. I mean, if you have kids, you bathe them, but at home. The biggest issue is she looks waaaaaaaaaayyy younger than the declared age too. She is absolutely adorable but I still look at her and think 'little kid' not 'tween'.
And I do suppose it's cultural too, I do see 12 year olds in short-shorts and tank tops; it's become the 'norm'. However, a 7-9 year old? Bit uncomfortable. I knew though that this topic was a can of worms, and boy did they pop off in all directions, heh.
We are locking this thread as it seems to have covered the substance comprehensively and is principally becoming a matter of "like/not like" posts with the occasional personal comment.