Hexagon good on laptops with Win7, sluggish on newer Windows 10 machine

Subject says all. At the moment (late 2020) Hexagon works reasonably well on two laptops that I have with Windows 7. I tried migrating to a slightly newer machine with Windows 10 - no go! There's a time lag of 3 to 4 seconds with many of the smallest functions like "File, Edit, View... Help" etc. - enough to make things unworkable.

Other than initial trouble with the PostgreSQL files, DAZ Studio works fine. I have 10k (ten thousand) images on the drive and Explorer powers through those with no issue.

For me personally Windows 10 seems a bit weird (kind of like going from XP to Vista, I suppose) but if basic programs aren't going to work....???.sad

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  • AscaniaAscania Posts: 1,207

    Turn the Game Bar off as well as the Control Flow Guard. See if that helps.

  • Roman_K2Roman_K2 Posts: 942

    Oh-oh... it escapes me what the "Game Bar" is, but turning of the Control Flow Guard didn't seem to help resolve the issue, at least not on my first try.

    But I fished a pristine, current (2019) Windows 10 machine out of the pile and bingo, Hexagon installed fine (and works fine) so that's a mystery!

    The plot thickens though because on the first computer, D|S seems to work well.

    On the second computer where Hex was good, D|S would not run at all. sad

    It doesn't crash; it just stops running!

    Again I used a brand-new machine for this test, lots of programs on it, lots of RAM, everything seems to work except D|S. Perhaps I will un-install and go back in time to an earlier version of D|S to see what happens.

  • AscaniaAscania Posts: 1,207

    The Game Bar is Windows10's way of wasting your resources.

  • Roman_K2Roman_K2 Posts: 942

    I'll take a look. I also have the "Wild Tangent Games" thing on one computer that I use to render - maybe a gigabyte of useless files?

    I'm thinking maybe my bad luck that the video subsystem on the computer is AMD Radeon or something. But usually D|S runs on AMD, and the trouble starts with the rendering, right?

  • AscaniaAscania Posts: 1,207

    Frankly, I'm running  Radeon machine and I don't have any of your problems.

  • Roman_K2Roman_K2 Posts: 942

    No trouble rendering in D|S, on your Radeon-equipped machine?

    Also I wanted to ask you if the "Game Bar" has to do with Xbox. I found the Xbox game bar, whatever it is, but it doesn't seem to show any controls for turning it off. Did you mean I should uninstall it?

    FWIW my machine with the sluggish Hexagon installation seems to be rendering reasonably well, in Daz Studio.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 30,348
    edited February 8

    you can also remove all that Windows 10 bloatware in Powershell run as administrator too

     

    list of commands to copy and paste under video

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  • AscaniaAscania Posts: 1,207

    Roman_K2 said:

    No trouble rendering in D|S, on your Radeon-equipped machine?

    Nope. Do remember that iRay can render on the CPU, it just takes longer.

    Also I wanted to ask you if the "Game Bar" has to do with Xbox. I found the Xbox game bar, whatever it is, but it doesn't seem to show any controls for turning it off. Did you mean I should uninstall it?

    Microsoft keps making it harder with each version of Windows 10.

    https://gist.github.com/joshschmelzle/04c57d957c5bb92e85ae9180021b26dc

  • Roman_K2Roman_K2 Posts: 942

    Thanks. I seem to have gotten it "turned off" now, but I'm actually not sure how that happened, it seemed like such a struggle the last time I was in there.

  • Roman_K2Roman_K2 Posts: 942

    That Github article looks REALLY complicated. sad

  • AscaniaAscania Posts: 1,207

    Roman_K2 said:

    That Github article looks REALLY complicated. sad

    It's not. It just covers several separate ways and is full of long names. Just go step-by-step.

  • Roman_K2Roman_K2 Posts: 942

    Still not batting .500 at this end, and another install of Hexagon under Windows 10 bit the dust - sluggishness continues so as to be unusable.

    Looks like some people are getting into the game on this problem? https://www.oo-software.com/en/ooappbuster

    This one is in Berlin, Germany. Have downloaded it but haven't run it yet. Crossing my fingers as the last time I sent e-mail overseas about something, I got spam for a few years! sad

  • TenTen71TenTen71 Posts: 60

    This is why I haven't left Windows 7. I don't want to have to fix Windows 10 issues. Of course at some point I probably won't be able to upgrade Daz but I'm still using 4.10 right now anyway.

  • Roman_K2Roman_K2 Posts: 942

    I agree although of recent I have noticed that Windows 10 may be a bit better, in some cases, at running older programs compared to Windows 7.

    Anyway I tried the App Buster and it brought up 5 "Xbox" things... again I don't have an Xbox, and Hexagon won't run on some of my computers, reportedly because of the "Xbox Game Bar". Sadly "Game Bar" was the one thing that the App Buster wouldn't remove. Back to that long, complicated (for me anyway) gist github article. sad

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